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  • MonkeeSage
    This video shows a major flaw in their security precautions. Almost every agent heads for the suspect, leaving only a single officer to watch out for a second shooter.
  • MonkeeSage
    MonkeeSage reacted to Harabeck's post in the thread Washington Correspondents Dinner Shooting with Informative Informative.
    Clearer video of the suspect and their movements prior to charging the security checkpoint have been made available: The interesting bit starts at about 4:00, and there's a slowed down edited segment at the end where muzzle flashes from the...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Like Like.
    Then we and everyone else wouldn't be talking about it. AATIP is always talked about in relation to UFOs and/or AAWSAP. Always. The people like Lacatski and Reid that set all this up, deliberately made it convoluted, from the original deceptive...
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    MonkeeSage replied to the thread The Origins of AAWSAP.
    I checked back through Imminent for references to Guantanamo Bay/Gitmo and as far as I can tell Elizondo differentiates his alleged duties at Gitmo and AATIP in a way that gives me the impression they were two unrelated things. pp. 142, 143 My...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to Mendel's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Like Like.
    There was no program. But they could take the Kona Blue proposal, rewrite it and change the name, and shop it to private investors. Which Elizondo did. That does not create a link to any "government program".
  • K
    I would like to see any artifacts that might have been created for the fake program, such as the quad chart he mentioned. I think it would be funny. And it might get some of the "witnesses" to go public and confirm those are the documents they saw.
  • Ann K
    I find the video singularly unimpressive. Grusch talks about the "overhead collection" - From satellites? Planes? He doesn't say. He says "I cannot explain them prosaically". Whoop-ti-doo. Ryan wants to know if they're going "at velocities". He...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Like Like.
    Good thought! KONA BLUE as the private TTSA actually makes a fair bit of sense in the usually UFO convoluted way. One of the things that came out, was the BAASS team thinking they were going to get their hands on meta-materials from crashed...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Like Like.
    Mellon had him as the host/facilitator for a Disclosure symposium as late as last year. I saw him and the other UFO people paling around at the McMinnville UFO fest last year multiple times. He was with Knapp, Corbel and others, plus his usual...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to John J.'s post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Agree Agree.
    Elizondo likes mythology-building. Like some others in Ufology, he is eager to push the idea that the US government, or at least some sections of some government agencies, take UFO reports seriously and know more than they're telling us (hence...
  • MonkeeSage
    MonkeeSage reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Agree Agree.
    But he only "picked the name" after Lacatski and Reid came up with it. Again, if they were using it, why would they use a name that referred to "nasty stuff and psycotornic" torture? He says that in the book. The name had to be AAWSAP, because...
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    MonkeeSage reacted to Mendel's post in the thread The Origins of AAWSAP with Like Like.
    Secretary of Defense. referring to quoted upthread Correct. Kona Blue was nothing more than a rejected proposal. Disclosed by AARO, ironically.
  • econ41
    econ41 reacted to jdog's post in the thread Washington Correspondents Dinner Shooting with Agree Agree.
    The Secret Service has been complaining about being underfunded for years now, having to protect too many potential targets doing so much travel, and having trouble hiring people for relatively low pay and lots of overtime...
  • econ41
    econ41 reacted to Ann K's post in the thread Washington Correspondents Dinner Shooting with Like Like.
    More on this topic, from Ben Meiselas / Meidas Touch: Here is the critical detail that is getting lost in all the noise: the incident happened on a floor above where the dinner was actually taking place. Not in the room. Not near the room. Up a...
  • econ41
    Hopefully President 48 will tear down the Epstein Ballroom on 1/20/29 (if that monstronsity actually gets built). You gotta love how all these charlatans are on the same page about how vital a WH ballroom (suddenly) is because of security... a...
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