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With respect, hypnosis doesn't confirm anything. Under hypnosis, Barney Hill reported seeing a red-haired man (...I think of a red-haired Irishman...") and a Nazi in a black coat and scarf watching him from the UFO that supposedly abducted him...

It's more than implausible. Half that size would still make it the largest flying thing ever built by humanity (at least in terms of its longest dimension). That isn't a trivial fact. A tenth of 1/3 mile (which would be approx. 58.7 yards, 53.6...

It's more than implausible. Half that size would still make it the largest flying thing ever built by humanity (at least in terms of its longest dimension). That isn't a trivial fact. A tenth of 1/3 mile (which would be approx. 58.7 yards, 53.6...

We don't know that what they saw was the same thing as the V-shaped object with lights that is now called the Phoenix Lights. There are planes all over the State at all times of the day and night. It's also not clear that anyone viewing through...

This is why I wanted a separate thread but I don't know if I can do that myself - to my knowledge the concept that it was a hoax (by anyone) has never been seriously considered. It's planes or it's aliens.

Fair enough. I wonder though if it is significant that the people who had the best view -- with telescope, say -- saw planes, not a single object? Or is my memory of that part of this case in error?

Fair enough. I wonder though if it is significant that the people who had the best view -- with telescope, say -- saw planes, not a single object? Or is my memory of that part of this case in error?

The problem is were' dealing with the 2nd hand accounts of an unreliable source. @Charlie Wiser has shared accounts of Rogers making claims of this overly large floating UFO. According to his daughter, he confessed to faking this UFO. So, the...

Was kind of skeptical about the stability of a triangle- or v-shaped balloon structure until I came across this The War Zone story: We Talk Giant V-Shaped Airships, Space, And Phoenix Lights With JP Aerospace's Founder JP Aerospace's John...

@YukonJohnCan -- Could you maybe provide a link to the times in the video where the object is most clearly visible? I believe I saw a drawing of is sort of propeller-looking thing, but now cannot even find that! (Lot of video here for the...

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Yes, exactly as I said - you can pick out some reports to support planes, and I can pick out some reports to support a relatively slow-moving single object.

I agree the size of 1/3 mile is implausible. However, it's not at all implausible that it wasn't found. In fact, it may well have been found - but that doesn't mean anybody associated it with the Phoenix Lights.

I am a bit late to this discussion, but I would correct some things mentioned by "John J.". Those comments above were added in a "Discussions" section by another person and not me. Okay, you weren't to know that, but I would agree with the...

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