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    Andreas reacted to NorCal Dave's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Like Like.
    As @Andreas noted above, they may not have had the negatives at the time. But even if they did, I think this was a standard way to create B&W copies of color photos as the paper published both. The device was literally called a "copy stand" and...
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    Well, it's often claimed that the grain pattern is consistent and shows no sign of manipulation — in other words, that the UFO hasn't been cut into the scene. But if the copy was made using film with prominent grain, wouldn't that "hide" some of...
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    JMartJr reacted to Mendel's post in the thread Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident with Like Like.
    This means you are ill equipped to relate to what Hall would have interpreted the sky as. To misidentify a celestial object as a UFO, it typically needs to be close to the horizon, not obscured by trees or by clouds. We don't know Halt's...
  • Mendel
    Mendel replied to the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo.
    1) Calling the barely-seen Harrier a 'second aircraft' means that the clearly visible Harrier is seen in the same photo. Otherwise, they should have considered that these were two shots of the same aircraft. 2) "They show a large stationary...
  • NorCal Dave
    As @Andreas noted above, they may not have had the negatives at the time. But even if they did, I think this was a standard way to create B&W copies of color photos as the paper published both. The device was literally called a "copy stand" and...
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    JMartJr reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Like Like.
    A Harrier can either hover or fly as a conventional aircraft. However, it cannot bank while hovering, and the "jet" in the photo appears to be banking. Also, if the witness had described it as "a jet was hovering next to the UFO," I'm sure this...
  • Dave51c
    Dave51c reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Like Like.
    A Harrier can either hover or fly as a conventional aircraft. However, it cannot bank while hovering, and the "jet" in the photo appears to be banking. Also, if the witness had described it as "a jet was hovering next to the UFO," I'm sure this...
  • Dave51c
    Dave51c reacted to John J.'s post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Like Like.
    Or more than one other frame? The only evidence we have for a 2nd aircraft (or model/ cut-out image etc. of a 2nd aircraft) in any of the other photos/ negatives is the MoD minute. It states that the negatives were "considered by the relevant...
  • Dave51c
    Ah sorry, I was thinking here about @Scaramanga 's comment where one would be looking at the first stage copy of a photographic print with the 'UFO' paper stuck on it and perhaps I'm assuming looking at the negative under controlled inspection...
  • Mendel
    Mendel reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Disagree Disagree.
    One more thing. We often assume a great deal about the additional five photographs — not least that the "jet" is visible in several of the frames, moving across the scene. I was quite convinced this was the case, but I'm not so sure anymore. I...
  • Mendel
    Mendel reacted to Dave51c's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Agree Agree.
    That's one way for sure, but the grain structure under magnification would make that easy to detect, especially along the edges of the stuck on paper.
  • Mendel
    Any UFO experience has two aspects, the physical and the mental. There are many examples, e.g. of pilots seeing Starlink flares, or questions that were posed on this forum, where recounting the physical aspects of the observation doesn't lead to...
  • NorCal Dave
    NorCal Dave reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Agree Agree.
    One more thing. We often assume a great deal about the additional five photographs — not least that the "jet" is visible in several of the frames, moving across the scene. I was quite convinced this was the case, but I'm not so sure anymore. I...
  • NorCal Dave
    NorCal Dave reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Claim: Original Calvine UFO Photo with Agree Agree.
    Yes indeed, this is important to remember. Lindsay's copy was most likely made by photographing one of the original color prints. It is slightly damaged — I'm sure it's scratched, there could be stains, and it was stored for decades before being...
  • Mendel
    Mendel replied to the thread Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident.
    This means you are ill equipped to relate to what Hall would have interpreted the sky as. To misidentify a celestial object as a UFO, it typically needs to be close to the horizon, not obscured by trees or by clouds. We don't know Halt's...
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