Pro News Camera-Man Captures "orb" in Sky in Mendham, New Jersey. [Out of Focus Point of Light]

Very interesting. I'd heard about atmospheric dispersion (where the atmosphere creates chromatic aberration near the horizon), but I'd never seen it. Dark sites I've been on have never had a great horizon. Interesting fact: the Schupmann telescope design is able to tune out this atmospheric dispersion.

What is interesting about the photos you have posted is the colour has gaps, indicating an uneven dispersion that splits the light.

This (extreme) phenomena only happens very close to the horizon, just before it passes. At that point the dispersion is very high. Similarly green flash happens to the sun at this position. I am sure there are papers written on this topic, but I have no links.

Found a nice example of a calculated dispersion graph @ Keck at Mauna Kea. If you extrapolate the curves for blue and red to 89deg, you get in tens of arcsecs! And that location is a very nice place "seeing" wise, i can imagine how much worse it gets in other places.

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This (extreme) phenomena only happens very close to the horizon, just before it passes. At that point the dispersion is very high. Similarly green flash happens to the sun at this position. I am sure there are papers written on this topic, but I have no links.

Found a nice example of a calculated dispersion graph @ Keck at Mauna Kea. If you extrapolate the curves for blue and red to 89deg, you get in tens of arcsecs! And that location is a very nice place "seeing" wise, i can imagine how much worse it gets in other places.

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And Keck does Subarcsecond Imaging so this graph shows why it can become important even at much smaller zenith angles.
 
Hi, very new here and eager to read all the fascinating comments. These "orbs" for the most part certainly appear to fit the category of out-of-focus light objects. The orange "orbs" are, in all likelihood, Mars out of focus. But some have made me scratch my head. I wonder if some videos may have caught a rare phenomenon known as a plasmoid. Plasmoids are created through the interaction of electricity and magnetic fields. I'm curious as to why this line of thought hasn't been considered. It's a more natural explanation for some of these sightings. Perhaps the reason for the sudden uptick in sightings may be due to the sun reaching its maximum activity in its 11-year cycle. I may do a little digging and see if upticks in orb sightings coincide with Sol's 11-year cycle. I'm glad I joined. And, thanks for letting me join.
 
Can you point to some scientific research of these plasmoids of which you speak? And the potential relationship to the solar cycle? Would we have expected to have seen more of them during prior solar maxima? Thanks!
And unless there's reason to believe that the either the EM fields or these plasmoids have long term memory, then any peaks in plasmoid activity would be associated with contemporaneous peaks in solar activity, not decade-long cycles of averages.
 
Hi, very new here and eager to read all the fascinating comments. These "orbs" for the most part certainly appear to fit the category of out-of-focus light objects. The orange "orbs" are, in all likelihood, Mars out of focus. But some have made me scratch my head. I wonder if some videos may have caught a rare phenomenon known as a plasmoid. Plasmoids are created through the interaction of electricity and magnetic fields. I'm curious as to why this line of thought hasn't been considered. It's a more natural explanation for some of these sightings. Perhaps the reason for the sudden uptick in sightings may be due to the sun reaching its maximum activity in its 11-year cycle. I may do a little digging and see if upticks in orb sightings coincide with Sol's 11-year cycle. I'm glad I joined. And, thanks for letting me join.
Can you show me a picture of a confirmed "plasmoid?"
 
I wonder if some videos may have caught a rare phenomenon known as a plasmoid. Plasmoids are created through the interaction of electricity and magnetic fields. I'm curious as to why this line of thought hasn't been considered. It's a more natural explanation for some of these sightings.
The plasmoids are basically charged particles contained in an (electro-)magnetic field. This can be done in a lab, in controlled situations and with significant magnetic field strengths. Although there are claims these plasmoids can occur in our atmosphere, I highly doubt they just form simply without a rather "special" situation. For instance, when there is a big thunderstorm, surely a mix of magnetic fields (caused by moving charges) and charged particles are observed, possibly causing ball-lightning/plasmoids. However, it is far from normal, more or less "neutral" atmospheric conditions, and I would not consider it to be a simple answer to uaps/orbs.
 
Hi, very new here and eager to read all the fascinating comments. These "orbs" for the most part certainly appear to fit the category of out-of-focus light objects. The orange "orbs" are, in all likelihood, Mars out of focus. But some have made me scratch my head. I wonder if some videos may have caught a rare phenomenon known as a plasmoid. Plasmoids are created through the interaction of electricity and magnetic fields. I'm curious as to why this line of thought hasn't been considered. It's a more natural explanation for some of these sightings. Perhaps the reason for the sudden uptick in sightings may be due to the sun reaching its maximum activity in its 11-year cycle. I may do a little digging and see if upticks in orb sightings coincide with Sol's 11-year cycle. I'm glad I joined. And, thanks for letting me join.
While plasmoids could be a topic on their own, I'm interested in the "some videos" you are talking about. It's a lot easier to have a discussion when we are all talking about the same videos considering how wide the concept of "orb" is. Lens flares, balloons, lanterns, out of focus lights or even just lights in the night are often referred to as "orbs".

Maybe you can make a new thread with a compilation of videos you've seen that you think might be plasmoids.
 
The plasmoids are basically charged particles contained in an (electro-)magnetic field. This can be done in a lab, in controlled situations and with significant magnetic field strengths. Although there are claims these plasmoids can occur in our atmosphere, I highly doubt they just form simply without a rather "special" situation. For instance, when there is a big thunderstorm, surely a mix of magnetic fields (caused by moving charges) and charged particles are observed, possibly causing ball-lightning/plasmoids. However, it is far from normal, more or less "neutral" atmospheric conditions, and I would not consider it to be a simple answer to uaps/orbs.

There seems to be a "soliton" feel to them - an arrangement that evolves in time in a way that mostly preserves that arrangement. A metastable solution to a differential equation, say. However, the wikepedia articles on them and their postulator ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_H._Bostick ) leave me wondering where they are on the scale from sub-atomic sized to atmospheric-phenomena sized:
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In 1956 Bostick demonstrated the existence of "plasmoids", force-free, charge-carrying "strings".[4] Ten years later he postulated an electron composed of helical plasmoids forming vortex "loops" around a "ring", similar to the Parson Magneton.[5] Bostick maintained that this model could account for atomic structure, strong and weak forces within the nucleus, and that it was a physical basis for string theory, but this view received no support from the mainstream scientific community and is considered fringe science.
-- about him, implying subatomic
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A plasmoid is a coherent structure of plasma and magnetic fields. Plasmoids have been proposed to explain natural phenomena such as ball lightning,[1][2] magnetic bubbles in the magnetosphere,[3] and objects in cometary tails,[4] in the solar wind,[5][6] in the solar atmosphere,[7] and in the heliospheric current sheet.
-- about them, implying potentially planet-dwarfing

Initially I thought that this blew my soliton comparison out of the water:
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In a field-free vacuum, for example, a plasmoid will rapidly expand and dissipate.
-- ibid
but the Severn Bore would dissipate if it weren't for the river banks, so if anything it might even reinforce the analogy.

Very few things scale across so many orders of magnitude, in particular when it comes to things like fluid dynamics, so I suspect "plasmoid" is more being used to describe a shared property of many different systems.

I'm also kinda worried by this image:
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image link: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b1/Plasmoid.jpg/640px-Plasmoid.jpg
via: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plasmoid.jpg

Because it reminds me of the medieval map on a local restaurant's wall that has an angry dragon where the Faroes should be. Just because you put it in a diagram doesn't make it real. it's described as:
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Schematic of the formation of a plasmoid in the Earth's magnetotail, from "A Brief History of Magnetospheric Physics during the Space Age" by D.P. Stern. The article was produced by a US Govt. employee and is therefore in the public domain. This article can be found in (1996). "A brief history of magnetospheric physics during the space age". Reviews of Geophysics 34 (1): 1. DOI:10.1029/95RG03508
I was firewalled from viewing the original of that paper, but what I iniitally thought was an OCR of it can be found here: http://www.phy6.org/Education/bh2_1.html , which has a mysterious HTTP 404 for the image http://www.phy6.org/Education/Figures/plasmoid.gif on this page: http://www.phy6.org/Education/bh2_7.html
I was unable to find a version of that document on the Internet Archive, where it's been scraped for over 2 decades, that contains the image - all have a dead link. So even though the page has been regenerated (different layouts and splitting into pages) many times, noone's seen fit to check that all the images work. The accompanying paragraph is so wooly that it doesn't give me great faith in its contents:
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Ultimately, in this scenario, the increased southward IMF reaches N2 and increases the rate of reconnection there, and after a while the supply of returning magnetic flux reaching N1 again matches the demand. But meanwhile other processes may intervene. The increased pressure on the lobe may squeeze the plasma sheet, causing reconnection at an internal neutral line N3 (Figure 16), so that the flux returning sunward is now supplied by reconnection at N3. Tailward of N3 an isolated magnetic bubble will be created, named "plasmoid" by Hones [1976; p. 567], a term previously applied by Bostick [1956, 1957, 1986] to a type of transient plasma bubble observed in the laboratory. Hones [1979, p. 393] described it as "...a blob of magnetospheric plasma ... detached from the magnetotail plasma...". The reconnection process at N3 was assumed to provide the substorm's energy and to accelerate particles; observations of impulsively accelerated particles in the tail [e.g. Keath et al., 1976; Roelof et al., 1976] were believed to indicate proximity to to N3.
... may ... may ... may ... assumed ... believed ... eh?

However, that little bit of digging does satisfy me that my suspicion that the term was being applied to multiple different things is made much firmer.

No, I have no idea where I'm going. But I wasted my effort doing all the clicking, so you have to waste your effort reading my rambling!
 
Can you show me a picture of a confirmed "plasmoid?"
This paper from last year claims to have pictures and video of them.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ucinations_Aircraft_Disasters_Ocean_Sightings

It's 110 pages so I haven't read it, but skimming though it the pictures all look like misidentified ice breaking free from booster engines and space debris.

There is also a supplemental video that just appears to show more of the same at https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383116954

Here are the first four images for example:
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This paper from last year claims to have pictures and video of them.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...ucinations_Aircraft_Disasters_Ocean_Sightings
This Rhawn Joseph: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rhawn_Joseph ?
Shall we just say, he has a reputation. There's so much to chose from, but this gives a taste:
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NASA

In 2014, Joseph filed a lawsuit against NASA as he claimed they failed to investigate whether a rock seen on Mars is in fact an alien lifeform.[12][13][14]

In September 2016, Joseph filed another lawsuit against NASA which was dismissed with prejudice.[15]
Springer

In 2020, Joseph filed a lawsuit against the academic publisher Springer NatureWikipedia who he contends conspired to cover up his discoveries and defraud him as they retracted some of his papers about extraterrestrial life.[16][17][18] His original complaint was criticized:

The Complaint is at times difficult to follow. It is littered with speculation, confusing ramblings, conclusory legal assertions, and personal attacks against Defendants.[18]

The case was dismissed with prejudice in April 2021
 
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