Debunked: Infowars' & Mancow's claim that Harry Lennix trained Obama

[Joe]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

another atheist ?

 

[AluminumTheory]

So if some guy tells Alex Jones that Obama is a shape shifting reptilian, it's considered an unsolved mystery pending verification from a doctor. But considering that the doctor might have a reason to lie about it, it should still be considered an unsolved mystery nonetheless.

 

[AluminumTheory]

another atheist ?

What does atheism have to do with this?

 

[JRBids]

correct it cant be proven period . That doesnt make it debunked only makes one of them a liar. Call it a unsolved mystery . Its amazing to me how many here try to defend our Dear Leader . any post involving POTUS will always be political . how many here are having buyers remorse I wonder ?

I'm not crazy about our "dear leader" either. I just don't see any proof something is true when the person who supposedly made the claim denies it.

 

[Joe]

So if some guy tells Alex Jones that Obama is a shape shifting reptilian, it's considered an unsolved mystery pending verification from a doctor. But considering that the doctor might have a reason to lie about it, it should still be considered an unsolved mystery nonetheless.

That depends or not if you believe in alien shapeshifters . Someone is lying . I dont know which one and neither does anyone else here , He is a empty suit to me and many others on the right so we are more prone to believe then those who still worship him . It really doesnt matter . I find it funny how annoyed people get when someone insults a worthless politician .

 

[JRBids]

That depends or not if you believe in alien shapeshifters . Someone is lying . I dont know which one and neither does anyone else here , He is a empty suit to me and many others on the right so we are more prone to believe then those who still worship him . It really doesnt matter . I find it funny how annoyed people get when someone insults a worthless politician .

Maybe people just don't like to be told they worship someone because they don't believe something with no proof isn't true. I could say that it's amazing how people who hate him will believe anything as long as it's bad.

 

[Joe]

I'm not crazy about our "dear leader" either. I just don't see any proof something is true when the person who supposedly made the claim denies it.

how do you know hes not lying about whether or not he said that . If i said something behind someones back and didnt want them to know i said it Id lie my @ss off Especially someone with the power to destroy my life . I am not saying that I belive what Mancow said but I cannot prove the he lied either .

 

[Joe]

Maybe people just don't like to be told they worship someone because they don't believe something with no proof isn't true. I could say that it's amazing how people who hate him will believe anything as long as it's bad.

Well they seem too get pretty defensive . This thread should have died days ago but I wouldnt say its debunked .

 

[Joe]

What does atheism have to do with this?

Nothing AT . Only thats all the whole wiki page seemed to be about .

 

[AluminumTheory]

That depends or not if you believe in alien shapeshifters . Someone is lying . I dont know which one and neither does anyone else here , He is a empty suit to me and many others on the right so we are more prone to believe then those who still worship him . It really doesnt matter . I find it funny how annoyed people get when someone insults a worthless politician .

You saw the video from 1990. His mannerisms have not changed. That is evidence that disintegrates Mancow's claim. We can't find evidence to support Mancow's claim, but we can find evidence to go against it. Debunked. End of story.

 

[Joe]

Im done Im going to unsubscribe to this thread before mick sends me to the cornfield again

 

[AluminumTheory]

Nothing AT . Only thats all the whole wiki page seemed to be about .

That wasn't the intention.

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others,

 

[Joe]

You saw the video from 1990. His mannerisms have not changed. That is evidence that disintegrates Mancow's claim. We can't find evidence to support Mancow's claim, but we can find evidence to go against it. Debunked. End of story.

Well I have and I would disagree with you , He is all telepromter now and when hes not he stutters and makes Bush look literate

 

[Joe]

That wasn't the intention.

Russell's teapot, sometimes called the celestial teapot or cosmic teapot, is an analogy first coined by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970) to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making scientifically unfalsifiable claims rather than shifting the burden of proof to others,

Do you ever get a gut feeling about anything ? Do you know what faith is ? Not religious faith either .

 

[AluminumTheory]

Faith is belief without evidence. I get gut feelings. Usually based on something, but I don't think my gut is evidence. If I find something to be different than what my instincts told me, then I will gladly accept that as fact.

Obama can do fine with or without a teleprompter. He handled himself well in all but one presidential debate. What does the teleprompter have to do with this anyway? Nobody suggested that Lennix taught him to use a teleprompter.

What is so different between Obama's mannerisms in 1990 and today?

 

[mynym]

See that just looks like you think they are equally bad. I think AJ is demonstrably much worse.

Even if that were true there's still the small matter that the military industrial media is linked to getting hundreds of thousands of people killed, while Alex Jones may be rather loosely linked to the death of one TSA agent and so forth. (As was pointed out on Metabunk recently.) So the military industrial media that sandwiches their WMD and "war on terror" memes between ads for Ratheon and Boeing should or better be "demonstrably way better," given how dangerous their lack of investigative reporting and "official sources say" mentality has been to people around the world.

It's not necessarily true that Jones is way worse than the corporate media.

Here is an example, the incubator babies hoax that was used to market the original Iraq war:

Three months passed between Nayirah's testimony and the start of the war. During those months, the story of babies torn from their incubators was repeated over and over again. President Bush told the story. It was recited as fact in Congressional testimony, on TV and radio talk shows, and at the UN Security Council. "Of all the accusations made against the dictator," MacArthur observed, "none had more impact on American public opinion than the one about Iraqi soldiers removing 312 babies from their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold hospital floors of Kuwait City."

At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. PR Watch.org

Then there were the anthrax attacks and other examples. This is part of the reason why people shouldn't be quick to condemn AJ when he immediately assumes that the corporate media is full of ignorant and lazy journalists that would probably do the same "Official sources are now leaking onto us their next marketing campaign for Murder Inc." stuff with Syria/Iran or other important issues if they could.

The rise of the alternative media isn't such a bad thing, even if they're often pretty lazy or sloppy and could use some debunking on trivial and unimportant stories like "Obama is an actor" sometimes too.

It's telling that you apparently don't think that you can debunk narratives and reports in the corporate media, as if they always settle on the truth after they're done with the "Get it first" slop they usually produce with "official sources."

 

[Mick West]

The difference with Nayirah being that the the MSM did not invent the story, they just reported it. Alex Jones and his crew simply make things up.

Anyway. Let's regroup.
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