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  1. Henk001

    Aluminium concentrations

    ...a rain water sample kit and they also publish the results of these tests on an interactive map (http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/evidence/rainwater-test-kit-results-map/). Clicking around on a few dozen of these results I noticed that Ba, Sr were hardly detected at all and [Al] is never...
  2. Mick West

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    But again, the aluminum in rainwater comes from dust. Depending on where you live, the dust can have as much as 10% aluminum. So really you are not measuring aluminum contamination, but rather how dusty your rain water sample is. This dust is largely removed during drinking water treatment.
  3. skephu

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    No, why would it be? It's not drinking water. Applying drinking water standards to rainwater is meaningless.
  4. Jay Reynolds

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    The largest effort so far that I know of was "The Chemtrails Project" here in the USA. I did an analysis of their results:
  5. M

    Aluminium concentrations

    Thanks for the links :)
  6. MikeC

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    It is not a scatter plot - it is a single axis plot that has been moved onto 2 axes to separate the points - nothing more or less.
  7. Leifer

    People still misunderstand units of measurements, percipitation, Al, Ba

    Clare Swinney and Harold Saive.......>>still<< contend "Aluminum and Barium Should Not Be Found in Rainwater Lab Tests" I thought both of them admitted in the recent past, that this was not the case.....yet it shows up again.
  8. Chew

    Patrick Roddie - San Francisco, California, Rainwater sample

    ...established a Minimum Risk Level for chronic (≥1 year) oral ingestion of barium of 0.2 mg barium/kg/day. A 70 kg person could drink 87.5 liters of that 160 µg/L rainwater per day every day for over a year and would not show any health effects. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxguides/toxguide-24.pdf
  9. jonnyH

    Aluminium concentrations

    ...200 µg/L standard is set for drinking water because aluminium is being used in the processing. The same standard should not be applied to rainwater. We should not have any aluminium in our rainwater, but we have discovered aluminium levels ranging from below 10 µg/L to as high as 990 µg/L...
  10. Belfrey

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    What point is that exactly? The caption proclaims that it shows "Fingerprint similarity in Sr/Ba ratio range between postgeoengineering rainwater and coal fly ash leachate. Placement on the horizontal axis is arbitrary to spread out data points." I have never in my scientific career seen a...
  11. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    This paper could not have passed substantive peer review by anyone acquainted with environmental forensics. With data unpublished the paper could not have been reviewed and without experimental details the experiment cannot be reproduced, then he also failed to provide a control...... All of...
  12. Critical Thinker

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...and describes some of the multifold consequences on public health. Two methods are employed: (1) Comparison of 8 elements analyzed in rainwater, leached from aerosolized particulates, with corresponding elements leached into water from coal fly ash in published laboratory experiments, and (2)...
  13. skephu

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...Herndon wanted to compare fingerprints, why did he limit himself to three elements, Al, Ba, and Sr? There are a lot more elements in both rainwater and coal ash. The only reason he examined these is that these are the elements most often referred to in the chemtrail/geoengineering mythology...
  14. Mick West

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...not shown. Note that aluminum (Atomic Number 13), strontium (38), and barium (56), elements which are sometimes determined in post-spraying rainwater, are relatively abundant. Seems specious, as the figures are already in ratio form. All this does is force the aluminum figures to be exactly...
  15. deirdre

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    Probably OT but whats a "aluminum anode system?" http://www.nsf.org/newsroom_pdf/European_Stds_Guide_LT_EN_LDW10050309.pdf
  16. Jacob Aman

    J. Marvin Herndon's chemtrail letter to San Diego City Council

    ...Chemicals sprayed into the atmosphere do not remain suspended; they fall to contaminate the air we breathe, our rainwater, and our agricultural soil. This ongoing massive spraying taking place over San Diego represents a grave threat to me and my family, my neighbors, and all my fellow San...
  17. Eric the Green

    Claim: Chemtrails are Coal Ash

    The video includes some charts about rainwater content in a few locations, including Chico CA. I have no idea who conducted these tests or how valid they are. Anyone know more about these tests, or if they mean anything?
  18. Chew

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    ...An MRL of 1 mg aluminum/kg/day has been derived for chronic duration oral exposure (≥365 days). A 70 kg person could drink 26 liters of that rainwater each and every day and they would suffer no ill effect from the aluminum. Of course, drinking that much water would kill you.
  19. Miss VocalCord

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    Yes, that is why I'm curious about what it says about what kind of sample it was (the "monsteromschrijving"). I'm wondering why it is left out, maybe they would type this sample as 'sludge'. Also the time between sample and analysing it might be an indication it is maybe a sample left outside...
  20. skephu

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    This is his reply to the second point of criticism which was "The chemical compositions obtained for rainwater and HEPA air filter dust are only compared to chemical compositions obtained for coal-fly-ash leaching experiments [2]. The author did not attempt to compare his results to chemical...
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