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  1. M Bornong

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...Andras Szilagyi This article has a fundamental methodological flaw in that it only compares the composition of rainwater and air particulates to coal fly ash and nothing else. Soil samples should have been used as controls. Also, a statistical analysis is completely missing. The total lack of...
  2. Chew

    Patrick Roddie - San Francisco, California, Rainwater sample

    You'd have to drink 9800 liters of that rainwater to get the same amount of barium that's in one large egg.
  3. GrandVizor

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    ...I use this website as a resource for a few months now and I thank you all for the helpful explanations and references. Recently a rainwater test result popped up and I need to know what the acceptable value for Aluminium is. I've looked around for it and learned a lot about it, but the...
  4. Marin B

    Patrick Roddie - San Francisco, California, Rainwater sample

    I tried to find a scientific study on metals in rainwater, but couldn't find any. The closest I got was a study done in Australia on elements in rain collection systems. That study found an average of ~72 ug/L strontium and ~17ug/L barium in "mains water" (which I presume is the same as tap...
  5. benben

    The psychology of the CT believers

    ...but it ain't to me!! Nanoparticle sized raindrops are falling from the sky right now!! I dare you to go outside, collect some of that rainwater in a glass/ cup/ bowl if you want to, then drink it, and even share it with your family, that you love sooo much!! Let me know how it turned out"...
  6. SR1419

    Patrick Roddie - San Francisco, California, Rainwater sample

    Someone needs to post this on Patrick's FB page...(i dont have a FB account)
  7. skephu

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    He is not aware of that. He argues that the rainwater samples are filtered through a fine filter in the laboratory before analysis, so there cannot be any solids in there.
  8. Chew

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    @Mick West , where is his rainwater data?
  9. skephu

    Aluminium concentrations

    "The same standard should not be applied to rainwater." -- I agree with that. We typically don't drink rainwater, so we should not expect that it is drinking water quality.
  10. Mick West

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    It appears to be unpublished.
  11. Chew

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    Funny how the peer-reviewer didn't ask for the rainwater data...
  12. Trailblazer

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...scale, the ratios are wildly different. For instance, just eyeballing from the chart (as he doesn't give the original data): The Sr/Al ratio is about 0.2 for the rainwater, and close to 1 for the leachate. The Fe/Al ratio is about 0.025 for the rainwater, and again close to 1 for the...
  13. Gundersen

    Debunked: Australian Rainwater "Chemtrail" test

    ...was confused. So I checked them all and made a corrected version. Please note that the limits I used on the above image are not limits for rainwater, but limits for drinking water. This does however make the above rainwater sample less interesting. Besides, as has been mentioned here before...
  14. Trailblazer

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...untrue! Even if you assume that this graph is correct, the ratios are clearly not similar. From Mick's spreadsheet, these are the ratios (rainwater first, then leachate). Ba: 0.129, 0.100 Sr: 0.170, 0.933 Fe: 0.912, 0.022 Ca: 38.0, 63.1 Sr: 12.9, 27.5 Mg: 19.1, 0.525 B: 0.240, 0.617...
  15. skephu

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    He wants to compare leachate with rainwater, which may be diluted. Normalizing to aluminum eliminates dilution effects.
  16. Auldy

    Claim: Mobile app uses atmospheric data to prove chemtrails vs contrails

    James Hodgskiss (the ap developer) is associated with Chemtrails Project UK (website here, facebook here). And his own personal facebook page is easily found. Should be pretty easy to keep up to date with this ap and its progress then. My two cents is that its totally phoney baloney. Chemtrails...
  17. deirdre

    Claim: Chemtrails are Coal Ash

    You can use the search box at top of page to search Metabunk. For instance "chico" or "Rainwater test" or "Herndon" Herdon has 2 "coal ash" papers. Youll see the links in blue in the first post here...
  18. M Bornong

    Mick West Interview for "Overcast" documentary by Dedal Films

    ...with chemtrails. Jet fuel additives do not contain nearly enough metals to account for the enormous quantities of metals we're finding in rainwater (and other) tests. Only jet airframes (737, 747, DC-9, etc.) which are known to have been converted to military (and contractor) tankers are...
  19. MikeG

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...in geoengineering activity" are three familiar geoengineering websites and a number of pictures of the sky over San Diego. His use of rainwater samples also struck me as interesting. They look derived from geoengineeringwatch.org, particularly the reference to pond water. Figure 4 shows...
  20. Chew

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    Well, the important thing is aluminum levels in rainwater have decreased by a whole magnitude since they peaked in 2008. At this declining rate our chemtrail nightmare will soon be over.:D
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