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  1. Cairenn

    Debunked: Iain Carstairs' Chemtrail Conspiracy Theories

    Some of us are just pointing out that testing rainwater is not going to give you any proof, it is just a waste of time, IF the purpose is to prove chem trails I want to know how to tell the difference between them. I can explain the differences between cerulean and cobalt. Do you want me to...
  2. Woody

    Magnesium and Titanium levels in Rainwater

    No, this is not usable as Monsoons deliver seawater inland and mine are much higher than most regions in this report at 323ug/L. I am looking for intercontinental rainfall meaning not effected by oceans.
  3. SeriouslyDebatable

    Why are we dosing babies with fluoride

    My bad dude... its not the actual collection of the water that is illegal, it is the usage of the water that is illegal. Untreated rainwater collection can only be for sub-surface outside irrigation. For indoor uses, such as toilet-flushing, follow the treatment standards detailed in The...
  4. hemi

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    ...our contention that geoengineering is occurring and that it is poisoning the environment in New Zealand. Heavy metals should not be in the rainwater, period. That statement comes from Frances Mangels, a soil biologist who has been investigating the cumulative effect of geoengineering on the...
  5. F4Jock

    Why Don't CT Believers Do Their Own Research?

    One of the more interesting observations I've read: ".....conspiracy idea suffers from the fatal flaw of having the conspirators engage in a complicated Rube Goldberg process to do something a rational person could do more effectively in a much simpler way." You covered it all. The fingernail...
  6. Jay Reynolds

    Magnesium and Titanium levels in Rainwater

    Woody, please post a scan of your lab results in .jpg format so that they may be examined factually. Redact personal information using a black marker, piece of card or Paint program if you like.
  7. cloudspotter

    facebook friend uploads Aluminium, Strontium & Barium In Brisbane Rainwater LOL

    Hasn't rained in 65 days and found 'high' levels in rainwater. lol
  8. SeriouslyDebatable

    Why are we dosing babies with fluoride

    Do a google search on rainwater collection in the city, or laws governing this. They allow you to do it if you purchase expensive systems to collect it. You put a bucket under your drain gutter though, and you can get a big fine. Once again, if you have to PAY for something, it is a privilege...
  9. David Fraser

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    ...and has the largest coal fired station in Europe, Drax, but it does suggest that there are few places in mainland UK where a sample of rainwater will not be contaminated by some form of industrial process. Now I can only assume that the same will be for the rest of the world. I know the UK...
  10. David Fraser

    Chemtrails Project

    ...analysis of the data based on the hypothesis that Al or Ba would be present. At the end of the day the chemtrailers claim is that rainwater does not contain any of the elements they claim, therefore every sample they took should have those substances in them. You don't need a Masters in...
  11. Jay Reynolds

    Debunked: Fake Snow, Burning Snow.

    ...https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rainwater-samples-from-alachua-county-florida-test-positive-for-aluminum.313/ https://www.metabunk.org/threads/chemtrails-project.557/ =========================================================== From what I've seen on Youtube and elsewhere, there...
  12. Woody

    Magnesium and Titanium levels in Rainwater

    Because a nut believed in chemtrails doesn't prove they do not exist, and because a nut said there was WMD's in Iraq doesn't mean they had them either? I have been watching these posts on chemtrails, I have actually seen the chemical tanks on the planes with binoculars and chemtrails and...
  13. David Fraser

    Max Bliss debates chemtrails

    ...Aluminium, especially in water (time to get a girlfriend I think). Max states that government sites give figures on what is normal for rainwater. I would like to know which sites he is talking about as I have never seen such statements. I have trawled sites like DEFRA and the CEH and can only...
  14. Cairenn

    Children present atmospheric....lies

    ...aluminum. Contrails have always persisted, I have seen those since the 50s. If the atmosphere has enough moisture, clouds will result. The rainwater test is useless. The rain picks up dust from the atmosphere--dust that can be from 1000s of miles away. Dust from the Sahara is killing coral...
  15. Boston

    peer reviewed research on aluminum content of rainwater required

    ...you are just spoiling for an argument. I'll go with my original qualifications for reviewing data. For instance Barium in North Atlantic Rainwater T D Jickells et al 1992 which does mention on PG 2 paragraph 1 Ba's use as an engine lubricant and diesel additive, however it also notes, PG...
  16. Belfrey

    Debunked: Monsanto's Aluminum Resistant GMOs and Chemtrails

    ...A couple of examples: Nanoparticles and higher plants Toxicity of aluminium oxide nanoparticles demonstrated using a BY-2 plant cell suspension culture model What is lacking (as far as I know) is any evidence that such materials are being released from planes, or being found in rainwater.
  17. Jay Reynolds

    The psychology of the CT believers

    Dave, he has a long standing grudge against the government. Employment problems, a lawsuit, passed over for promotions, somebody shat on his desk. A lot of anger and resentment from the past. He will show them. In the end he will be a hero and save the world. They will all remember Francis...
  18. David Fraser

    DEBUNKED: David Lim - Public talks on geoengineering / chemtrails in the UK

    They have 2 samples. One goes to a DEFRA lab, the other to an "independent". First all kabs gave to be government accredited but they found it suspect that DEFRA filtered the sample. That is standard practice. They only need to tell both labs exactly how they want the sample treated.
  19. HappyMonday

    facebook friend uploads Aluminium, Strontium & Barium In Brisbane Rainwater LOL

    Those are the same people charging £25 for a 'rainwater sampling kit' which is defined as 'a 250ml plastic bottle and instructions'. This may have something to do with it.
  20. David Fraser

    peer reviewed research on aluminum content of rainwater required

    ...is "normal", especially given that there is not a "normal" value. I would suggest also that look at atmospheric quantities rather than rainwater. The level of scavenging that raindrops are able to do is often dependant on size both of the drop and the particulates, therefore the content may...
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