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The passport of Satam al Suqami is a controversial piece of 9/11 evidence but before we look at the key evidence regarding it i want to address a small but often asked question.
WHY?
Why, if it didn't just come from the crash as we are told, is it there at all?
Firstly i would like to say that the requirement to explain is only upon any who don't believe the official story. I can offer 2 explanations which i have in my blog (link below) but simply that an inability to explain the why, does not make the facts different.
So, what are the facts?
Essentially the basic story is plane hits building passport crashes through with other debris, lands on sidewalk, is found and handed in.
The basic issues with this-Let's begin with the easily debunkable
1.) The passport would be among tons of paper and debris and not easily locatable.
This is hardly a proof of conspiracy but it is starange luck to have this pulled from the vast number of documents, more so when the majority of persons, as is visually provable, are looking up not down.
2.)The hijackers not the victims or office workers
This does present a minor problem given that it is extremely suspect that id and cards or documents of innocents were not readily handed in at the time, in fact if they were this would be readily picked up on by the debunking society. And the police and FBI would have documented it just as was done with Suqami's passport. However this is just the second coincidence and proves nothing.
3.) The passport made it through the building, Suqami was on aa11 which was for the most part retained inside the tower
This is a difficult one because there is no way for the passport to have fallen out of the plane, it has to go through the building, based on plane length the entire plane would enter the tower in under 1s, insufficient time to drop the distance from pocket,cabin, or even floor,to below the belly of the plane before it was driven into the building. Plane speed appx 400mph at the entry and as outlined on my blog, the length of the plane even at 100mph means that passport HAD to be inside the tower
4.) The passport should, if not burnt or shredded, been impacting on something. When the fron of the plane disintegrated the plane behind ploughed forwards and pushed on, but everything is slowing down as it hits objects and remember the plane hit across floors, so there are floors, cupboards and lights and walls and steel columns and shredded parts of the plane, all waiting to hit the passport, any one of which will alter its trajectory.
This is another huge problem, if the passport was with Suqami in the cockpit, as soon as he hits a wall or object the momentum of the passport, is slowed (assuming it can break out the bag/pocket) as we must assume it did, it then hits but one wall or desk or cabinet and it stops dead and falls to the floor.
5.) Soaked in fuel, as per fbi report. Which is fine except if it was in the cockpit it can't be in the fuel, simply because to become soaked requires the wings which carry the fuel to break and the passport to be doused with a torrent at that stage, however as the forward momentum of the plane meant the passport was inside already, it has to be by the wings ( a little further back than Suqamis seat was) in fact it needs to be behind the wing so it can be doused as the break sloshes fuel everywhere as the break will happen and fuel leak just as the row or two behind the wings come under that point. Except, that then must mean it goes either through the fireball, or, it is pushed to the floor of the plane, a wtc floor by the force of the fuel hitting it. after all, this is happening in the space of thousandths of a second and the plane is pushing forwards still.
But maybe, it was behind the wings (why unless he was NOT a hijacker)maybe he threw his passport up there for no reason at all?
6.) Assuming that is all true and occurred and the passport was not in a pocket, not in a bag or locker, behind the wings, hit by fuel, missed the flames, got driven through the building, missed all objects, maintained momentum for 238 feet despite the majority of the plane not doing so, then passed through the building and out the other side IT WILL BE ON THE WRONG SIDE!
The passport was found in Vesey street,where the plane came in from, at high speed.
The wind was blowing between 8 to a maximum of 11 mph in that same direction as evidenced by the smoke direction.
So, after all of the above it either, turns BACK against the speed and metal of the plane, or passes all that way and floats across the width say 100ft of the exit hole, then floats BACK against the wind for the 238ft of the wtc, then further 200ft back, then changes direction again to end up where found.
The passport through out all its troubles remains in perfect condition. NOT catching fire like hundreds of papers did, NOT being scorched like fire retardant seats not doused in fuel.
But our passports ride isn't over.
It is then discovered again and again and again
At least so a variety of sources told us, whereas the official version by 9/11 commission and fbi records and police statements said before collapse and soaked in fuel by a person who handed it to a cop and ran away.
Multiple media sources reported the passport found later that day, later that week, on different days by different people
They cant ALL have got the true story mixed up.
But then if they did, who really gets confused with handed in before collapse, against found after collapse three days later?
Is everything kosher here?
Not in the least.
My blog is not fully edited for perfect grammar etc, but i placed the work up as is, so you can look and see the images and more in depth to combat this.
This is not about wanting to make a conspiracy, but THIS is exactly what we need a rational and sensible answer to and nothing really can cut it except either it was planted, or Suqami rolled down his window and dropped his passport out just before impact.
http://afraidof911truth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-smoking-gun-of-911.html
WHY?
Why, if it didn't just come from the crash as we are told, is it there at all?
Firstly i would like to say that the requirement to explain is only upon any who don't believe the official story. I can offer 2 explanations which i have in my blog (link below) but simply that an inability to explain the why, does not make the facts different.
So, what are the facts?
Essentially the basic story is plane hits building passport crashes through with other debris, lands on sidewalk, is found and handed in.
The basic issues with this-Let's begin with the easily debunkable
1.) The passport would be among tons of paper and debris and not easily locatable.
This is hardly a proof of conspiracy but it is starange luck to have this pulled from the vast number of documents, more so when the majority of persons, as is visually provable, are looking up not down.
2.)The hijackers not the victims or office workers
This does present a minor problem given that it is extremely suspect that id and cards or documents of innocents were not readily handed in at the time, in fact if they were this would be readily picked up on by the debunking society. And the police and FBI would have documented it just as was done with Suqami's passport. However this is just the second coincidence and proves nothing.
3.) The passport made it through the building, Suqami was on aa11 which was for the most part retained inside the tower
This is a difficult one because there is no way for the passport to have fallen out of the plane, it has to go through the building, based on plane length the entire plane would enter the tower in under 1s, insufficient time to drop the distance from pocket,cabin, or even floor,to below the belly of the plane before it was driven into the building. Plane speed appx 400mph at the entry and as outlined on my blog, the length of the plane even at 100mph means that passport HAD to be inside the tower
4.) The passport should, if not burnt or shredded, been impacting on something. When the fron of the plane disintegrated the plane behind ploughed forwards and pushed on, but everything is slowing down as it hits objects and remember the plane hit across floors, so there are floors, cupboards and lights and walls and steel columns and shredded parts of the plane, all waiting to hit the passport, any one of which will alter its trajectory.
This is another huge problem, if the passport was with Suqami in the cockpit, as soon as he hits a wall or object the momentum of the passport, is slowed (assuming it can break out the bag/pocket) as we must assume it did, it then hits but one wall or desk or cabinet and it stops dead and falls to the floor.
5.) Soaked in fuel, as per fbi report. Which is fine except if it was in the cockpit it can't be in the fuel, simply because to become soaked requires the wings which carry the fuel to break and the passport to be doused with a torrent at that stage, however as the forward momentum of the plane meant the passport was inside already, it has to be by the wings ( a little further back than Suqamis seat was) in fact it needs to be behind the wing so it can be doused as the break sloshes fuel everywhere as the break will happen and fuel leak just as the row or two behind the wings come under that point. Except, that then must mean it goes either through the fireball, or, it is pushed to the floor of the plane, a wtc floor by the force of the fuel hitting it. after all, this is happening in the space of thousandths of a second and the plane is pushing forwards still.
But maybe, it was behind the wings (why unless he was NOT a hijacker)maybe he threw his passport up there for no reason at all?
6.) Assuming that is all true and occurred and the passport was not in a pocket, not in a bag or locker, behind the wings, hit by fuel, missed the flames, got driven through the building, missed all objects, maintained momentum for 238 feet despite the majority of the plane not doing so, then passed through the building and out the other side IT WILL BE ON THE WRONG SIDE!
The passport was found in Vesey street,where the plane came in from, at high speed.
The wind was blowing between 8 to a maximum of 11 mph in that same direction as evidenced by the smoke direction.
So, after all of the above it either, turns BACK against the speed and metal of the plane, or passes all that way and floats across the width say 100ft of the exit hole, then floats BACK against the wind for the 238ft of the wtc, then further 200ft back, then changes direction again to end up where found.
The passport through out all its troubles remains in perfect condition. NOT catching fire like hundreds of papers did, NOT being scorched like fire retardant seats not doused in fuel.
But our passports ride isn't over.
It is then discovered again and again and again
At least so a variety of sources told us, whereas the official version by 9/11 commission and fbi records and police statements said before collapse and soaked in fuel by a person who handed it to a cop and ran away.
Multiple media sources reported the passport found later that day, later that week, on different days by different people
They cant ALL have got the true story mixed up.
But then if they did, who really gets confused with handed in before collapse, against found after collapse three days later?
Is everything kosher here?
Not in the least.
My blog is not fully edited for perfect grammar etc, but i placed the work up as is, so you can look and see the images and more in depth to combat this.
This is not about wanting to make a conspiracy, but THIS is exactly what we need a rational and sensible answer to and nothing really can cut it except either it was planted, or Suqami rolled down his window and dropped his passport out just before impact.
http://afraidof911truth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-smoking-gun-of-911.html