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So move on. All of Skeptics' statements about the phenomenon are preserved here for later reference. You've created a monument to skepticism. It will be remembered always… I’ve long toyed with compiling some of the best statements here, but...

Villarroel recently posted this in a Swedish Facebook group, commenting on a post in which someone suggested that the UFO community follow Mick West and Metabunk for a more nuanced approach. Translated to English: "The scientific method is not...

Just defocus your camera slightly, and you'll produce loads of it!⁵ ⁵ bokeh, see https://www.metabunk.org/threads/angels-in-a-snowstorm-on-mt-athos-bokeh.10355/

I'm okay with it. Not going to change a thing for me and many others. Just a better tack. I’m tired of scientists telling me they exist or don’t. Lots of bad scientists, lots of bad doctors out there. Passing tests means not a lot.

Well I'd be happy to find out more not easily unidentifiable stuff, there's no specific need to look for things that "defy physics". Just for things that elude the current identification models.

Then don't study it. Case closed! Focus on debunking airborne clutter and Mylar balloons. We need to clear that stuff up anyway so we don't mistake it for adversaries as the CIA was concerned with so long ago. There is no evidence for you to...

So therefore they should be detectable - repeatedly, predicably and objectively. And therefore if they are not detected then we could postulate that absence of evidence is, in that case, evidence of absence , ie non-existence. (Probably).

Then don't study it. Case closed! Focus on debunking airborne clutter and Mylar balloons. We need to clear that stuff up anyway so we don't mistake it for adversaries as the CIA was concerned with so long ago. There is no evidence for you to...

my opinion on that is that anomalies do not have to be anything intelligent at all without knowing.

UAP reports can be studied. But commissions have established 50 years ago that there is little scientific value in it.⁴ However much the believers claim otherwise, a UAP phenomenon has not been shown to exist¹. There is no set of characteristics...

Sure, but it might also be the case. I think the frustration you all are having is that there is very little to no physical evidence to study with hard sciences. Maybe let it percolate in sociology for a while. And if a big mass sighting...

"If it is smarter than we are, it might not want to be studied." - and therein lies a major issue. The hypothesis that a UAP phenomenon exists is unfalsifiable because it can always be said that they have more intelligence and better technology...

"If it is smarter than we are, it might not want to be studied." - and therein lies a major issue. The hypothesis that a UAP phenomenon exists is unfalsifiable because it can always be said that they have more intelligence and better technology...

Is there a "UAP phenomenon" worth Studing? First, some general perspectives: For this response, I will take the perspective that what we mean as UAP phenomenon is really aliens or their technology near or on Earth. It might also include...

This discussion came up in another thread, and I want to continue it here. Personally, I see no reason to study the so-called "UAP phenomenon" scientifically, since I see no reason to believe such a phenomenon exists. To me, UAPs only exist in...