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Why do we have to confirm that the U.S. government doesn't have secret proof of UFOs? Should we also prove that they don't have evidence of Bigfoot or unicorns? And how on earth do you think it would be possible to prove such a thing? The only...

Why do we have to confirm that the U.S. government doesn't have secret proof of UFOs? Should we also prove that they don't have evidence of Bigfoot or unicorns? And how on earth do you think it would be possible to prove such a thing? The only...

Here’s the official GEIPAN methodology criteria for D cases. Do I claim this proves anomalies? No. This just proves that science on these supposed anomalies can be done but it has historically been hindered by military secrecy anyway. While...

I actually agree with you, but: GEIPAN's official methodology specifically defines Category D cases as anomalous precisely because of the quantity and reliability of the data. Furthermore, GEIPAN is a civilian branch of CNES; just like AARO, if...

Not yet, but I could hook something up.

I actually agree. If they don’t really have anything interesting, many people should stop making those weird claims.

There's also no guarantee that those RADAR traces were a real object, or even the same object Fravor saw or Underwood recorded.

Ok, we have different ideas of what a sceptic is, fair enough. But I should add the fatted part to the loop. Maybe I do that later.

Why do we have to confirm that the U.S. government doesn't have secret proof of UFOs? Should we also prove that they don't have evidence of Bigfoot or unicorns? And how on earth do you think it would be possible to prove such a thing? The only...

Maybe my english isn't good enough to express what I meant to say with "or confirm that it doesn't exist". I just meant that they need to clearly communicate that it doesn't exists and give an explanation, backed up with whatever documentation...

I just think we have to agree to disagree on this point. Personally, I don't think we "need the data and the research." It's not about proving or disproving alien visitations. It's about disproving individual pieces of "evidence" put forward by...

Shoulda gone with "mad software mogul". (John McAfee being the prototype, but there are others.) Technically, that's mad computer scientist.

I just think we have to agree to disagree on this point. Personally, I don't think we "need the data and the research." It's not about proving or disproving alien visitations. It's about disproving individual pieces of "evidence" put forward by...

"Me: They should release the data and research that the UAPTF and UFOlogists claim exists or confirm that it doesn't exist, so that it can be debunked." Let's role play Release the video of you saying you owe me 1000 pounds.

My point was that they should release data that was useful instead. But I am starting to feel that this discussion is pointless, since no one seems to actually read or understand what I write. The discussions seems to go something like this...