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No, they are assertions. If they are in the data, then I would agree with you. You are pushing Marik's interpretation, your interpretation, and the perceptions and memories of the pilots, as if they are inviolable representations of reality.

They are in the data. Source: https://x.com/MvonRen/status/1669133205985714176

Those are not "facts", they are assertions. Please stop doing that.

You're focusing on one aspect (camera-induced bumps causing the rotation) and treating it as the most probable explanation, while downplaying or ignoring the broader set of anomalies and counter-points to the glare model. Here are the facts...

Or, I'd think, that they are both caused by a common thing, such as the clutch popping in (or whatever the correct term is in an ATFLIR pod) making a bump and making the camera begin to rotate.

How, how could an external object sense there's been a 'bump' in the optical system which is tracking it, so it can then rotate in synchronism with the bumps? And why should the object want to do that? It's overwhelmingly probable the bumps are...

The VRT documentary aired today and it makes some very serious allegations, so serious I'd rather not repeat them myself. Needless to say they back up the Metabunk ADS-B research, that the "drone" video was a police helicopter, as such the...

The problem here is that each time I dig into your theories (like the triangulation issue), it takes a lot of time, and the end result is that there's some assumption you made that makes the entire thing meaningless (IIRC with triangulation it...

But it is worth noting that they ALWAYS precede a rotation of the glare. Other things may cause a bump, sure. But something to do with the rotation is causing bumps consistently. Anybody that wants to posit a mechanism by which the rotation...

The more years pass without any similar technology coming to light, the less probable this hypothesis becomes. Consider also this: there is a long road from fundamental science discoveries to working technology. Along this road, even if it was...

@Mick West , please spend your time refining your model, not arguing in circles. It's not an "explanation". The bumps are proof that the observed fast rotations originate with the camera system and not with the external world. Once the rotation...

I have no such aerospace knowledge, but I'll point out that if something's secret, the USA has miles and miles of almost empty desert area (White Sands Missile Range alone is bigger than the state of Delaware) and I cannot imagine a developer...

Glare from an IR source would be an optical indication of the means of propulsion. "Vertical U-turn" implies a 180 degree (or thereabouts) change in direction of flight in the vertical plane; I don't think we see this. It's hard to see the...

The VRT documentary aired today and it makes some very serious allegations, so serious I'd rather not repeat them myself. Needless to say they back up the Metabunk ADS-B research, that the "drone" video was a police helicopter, as such the...