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  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Charlie Wiser's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Informative Informative.
    Travis Walton's case was the first (along with the Hills) that I looked into in 2021 when I made the site. I liked Raymond E. Fowler's theory that two crewmembers fooled the other five in order to have plausible witnesses. (Karl Pflock also...
  • Ann K
    You have been asking for clarification on other points. We have no way of knowing what you understand and what you don't. If you don't need clarification, don't read it; it's that simple. There's no need to be rude.
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to Andreas's post in the thread Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident with Like Like.
    But we know for a fact that most cases just don't happen that way. Reality is complicated and, almost always, several unrelated factors contribute to a certain outcome. Think of it like an air crash investigation. Almost always, a long chain of...
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to JMartJr's post in the thread Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident with Agree Agree.
    We have no evidence that ANYTHING suddenly zoomed overhead and cast down a beam of light on that occasion. We have witness testimony, but we also know that witness testimony is often wrong as people make mistakes and memory is fungible. This...
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to Ann K's post in the thread Rendlesham Forest UFO Incident with Like Like.
    In the same post: If we are talking about a balance of probabilities, then "something genuinely mysterious" doesn't make the cut, compared with mundane factors. The fact that we cannot definitively state WHICH mundane factors are in play doesn't...
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Charlie Wiser's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Like Like.
    It is extremely likely he (and the other witnesses) had no idea what deflating Hibal looks like, so their assertion it wasn't a balloon isn't relevant. They repeatedly say today that it wasn't a weather balloon, which is a strawman (for the Hibal...
  • Ann K
    This is such classic dog whistling
  • John J.
    John J. reacted to Xianghua's post in the thread Welcome Thread - New Members Post Here with Like Like.
    Hi everyone. My name is Xianghua. I was born in Kaohsiung and now I live in San Bernardino County. Please be kind to me.
  • Ann K
    Ann K replied to the thread The Varginha UFO.
    An African species in Brazil (1), with alopecia (2), and conjunctivitis (3), running around loose (4). You now have four unlikely things to explain, instead of accepting one. My goodness, you're persistent.
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to JMartJr's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Like Like.
    Direction can also change. A balloon blowing towards the observer can seem to hover, as these planes do -- the planes are moving faster than a balloon! Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NzfMmuHnvi4?feature=share
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Ann K's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Agree Agree.
    Well ..."I didn't see anything" doesn't sell newspapers.
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to John J.'s post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Like Like.
    Agreed, in the sense that hallucinations cannot be shared. By definition they are subjective, and not reports of something that is objectively there. Misidentifications are not hallucinations. Groups of people can make the same misidentification...
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Ann K's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Like Like.
    I'll note that the "miracle of Fatima", viewers were not gathered there randomly. They were there because they had been told what to expect. (They had also been primed by their religious experiences to believe in miracles.) Between previous...
  • Gary C
    Gary C reacted to Charlie Wiser's post in the thread The Westall School Incident with Like Like.
    Your assertion is not supported by any evidence. We only have four contemporaneous testimonies: Andrew Greenwood (science teacher) (interviewed in the paper and a year later by James McDonald) Marilyn Eastwood (now Smith) (interviewed in the...
  • JMartJr
    JMartJr replied to the thread The Varginha UFO.
    That is not how it works. It is up to you to provide evidence to support your theory, it is not up to anybody else to disprove it. By the way I am 66 years old-- I wonder if I am the oldest person here to know what the Umbrella Corporation...
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