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  1. Leifer

    Jim Babb & Kristen Meghan - Chemtrails Debate at Porcfest

    Most "home testing" of rainwater has resulted in average expected results (not high).....even without rigorous controls. Yes it's a ballpark figure, with variables introduced by "non-professional" testing. When proper home procedure is followed, a close approximation can be obtained. (It's easy...
  2. Ray Von Geezer

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...Moreno et al. [2]) is 140,000,000 μg/kg. This error invalidates the conclusions of the article. • The chemical compositions obtained for rainwater and HEPA air filter dust are only compared to chemical compositions obtained for coal-fly-ash leaching experiments [2]. The author did not...
  3. Mick West

    High barium levels in blood? ( Mohave, AZ?)

    Yes, their percentages are relative to the RL (Reporting Limit) If your laboratory didn’t detect a chemical in your sample, it doesn’t mean that it is not there. It only means that the concentration of the chemical agent is below the instrument sensitivity. This brings us to the definition of...
  4. Belfrey

    Debunked: J. Marvin Herndon's "Geoengineering" Articles in Current Science (India) and IJERPH

    ...don't want to get bogged down with the statistical nuances. But the most important, fundamental problems are pretty easy to state: -If rainwater contains elements in ratios similar to coal ash, that doesn't mean that those elements came from coal ash; they could have just come from dust and...
  5. David Fraser

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    ...website, the Guideline Value for aluminium in the Drinking Water Standards New Zealand 2005 (DWSNZ) (Revised 2008) is < 0.1 g/m³, which the rainwater sample for May the 8th exceeds by more than two-fold at 0.25 g/m³. The Guideline Value relates to the water’s aesthetic quality -as it might...
  6. Mick West

    Photos of trails over Switzerland [back to the 1970s] and Chemical Analysis of Jacuzzi Cover Water

    Yes, you are going to get quite a build up of chemicals on the top. But the main components are going be dirt. You'll also get concentrated rainwater, as it evaporates quickly from a flat surface, so even if was clean, it's not really a meaningful number. So the test results are not showing...
  7. Pete Tar

    Photos of trails over Switzerland [back to the 1970s] and Chemical Analysis of Jacuzzi Cover Water

    ...within the last year alone and have photo graphic evidence of each day of spraying since August 2011! ... Last but not least… in June I had rainwater that accumulated on my jacuzzi cover analyzed and guess what I found…among other things 38mg/liter of aluminium…that is 38’000 micrograms...
  8. Hama Neggs

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    I believe chicoskywatch claims, in their web page and printed literature, that tests of various local sources should show less than 1 ppB to be normal. When I tried to converse with them about that ridiculous statement they called me a shill and refused to discuss it. I just checked- it's still...
  9. MikeG

    Aluminum in the United States, Prevalence in Soil and Water

    ...that I unearthed recently. It is very useful, however, much of its references are very old. Page 197 cites studies of Aluminum in snow and rainwater which are exactly what I am researching. However, these studies are all in the sixties and early seventies. Similarly, a table on aluminum...
  10. Trailspotter

    Debunked: Australian Rainwater "Chemtrail" test

    There is a column in the report for Default Detection Limit. These are the minimal concentrations that can be detected by this method. That is, the reported concentrations of the three metal ions are just 2-8 times more than their minimal detectable values.
  11. Hama Neggs

    Debunked: High Bypass Turbofans do not make Contrails [actually they make more]

    ...jets producing the massive plumes today - are virtually incapable of generating condensation trails. Claim #6: High levels of aluminum in rainwater is normal. Fact: There are a few atmospheric studies that show unusually high levels of aluminum in rainwater. These studies are often...
  12. George B

    Is Contrail Science a CIA Disinformation site?

    On his parting post on our PM discussion Zane left this link to support the environmental testing: http://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/?s=rainwater
  13. MikeC

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    Clare Swinney is at it again - publicizing tests of rainwater showing very low levels of minerals in rainwater, and claiming they are somehow evidence of evildoing, even though the levels are much lower than the acceptable limits!! The results confirm the presence of aluminium, barium and...
  14. Ross Marsden

    More analysis of "rainwater" - New Zealand

    I have another problem with this. It is nonsense to apply a drinking water standard to a completely untreated rainwater sample. I'm not sure if this is an error on the part of the testing lab, or the wrong instructions/information given by the person requesting the test.
  15. Leifer

    Aluminium value in rainwater

    ...the lack of people posting test results of normal or low levels of aluminum. The VAST majority of these tests show extremely low levels. People do not boast about their low/normal tests. See the low levels found here...
  16. Mick West

    Debunked: Rosalind Peterson "Leaker" Addressing UN about Chemtrails and Geoengineering

    ...i.e. individual points that are used to back up a broader theory. For example, the fact that high levels of aluminum are sometimes found in rainwater is used as evidence for the "chemtrails" theory. Claims of evidence can be debunked in one of two main ways Demonstrating that the evidence...
  17. David Fraser

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    Interesting. But surely she knows that the samples for rainwater and drinking water are prepared in different ways so you are not measuring like for like. Still its a hefty claim that labs will half ass rainwater samples. Obviously labs are not concerned about losing their accreditation or...
  18. Leifer

    Jim Babb & Kristen Meghan - Chemtrails Debate at Porcfest

    ...the levels are extremely high. This assertion (and lists of home tests already done by chemtrail believers) has been well covered on this site, and elsewhere. The vast,vast majority of samples, show normal (or lesser) amounts. https://www.metabunk.org/search/1367367/?q=rainwater&o=relevance
  19. Mick West

    Help me to understand - Photos and Videos with very large numbers of contrails

    ...altitude. See: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunking-contrails-dont-persist-with-a-study-of-70-years-of-books-on-clouds.3201/ The rainwater tests generally just show expected background levels, or they are contaminated by testing something like pond sludge instead of pond water, or...
  20. cloudspotter

    Kristen Meghan, former US Air Force whistle-blower?

    @David Fraser ? Are they different tests?
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