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Tom Sullivan, Explosives Loader, on 9/11 "Single Column"
Are you saying Sullivan has no explosive qualification? Has he got any qualifications do you think? Maybe he is a master baker or qualified accountant and they just let him mess around with explosives because he is cheap? I think that applies far, far more to NIST 'false, liars, political... -
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Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
It wasn't a loaded question, merely a question that you refused to answer because it exposed your irrational position on the NFPA 921 directive. However, since you are so sure it was a loaded question, you'll be able to quickly and easily expose how answering either yes or no was a false choice...- jomper
- Post #216
- Forum: 9/11
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N.F.P.A. 921 - Did NIST disregard it in investigating 9/11?
To recap these are the points that continue to make me seriously doubt the official story... 1) To not test the WTC dust after years and years of investigation is not normal, because a test would probably only take a few weeks and would be the only scientific method to rule out accelerant &... -
Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
We've been through this before. WTC1 was WTC7's "accelerant". They dealt with fire. The model reflects the video history with sufficient accuracy, and tells the story. Well, I'm an engineer sufficiently to know that you interpret engineering as "lies". NIST doesn't mean "remnant of the Bush... -
Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic [video]
Explained by NIST. http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtc7.cfm 16. For its study of WTC 7, why didn’t NIST follow the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) guidelines for conducting a fire investigation? NFPA 921, “Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations,” is a... -
N.F.P.A. 921 - Did NIST disregard it in investigating 9/11?
Speaking to 4) Per MSNBC http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12818225/ns/us_news-security/t/video-plane-hitting-pentagon-released/#.UXWa5cu9KK0 -
Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
I'm not acknowledging "they should have tested", I was trying to explain what the point of the thread was. The question "should they have tested?" is an oversimplification of a complex situation Sure, but you are extending things far beyond the scope of testing dust and steel. Is the... -
Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic [video]
Hiper, pretty much everything you've said is a variation on the same theme. You have repeated the same point ad nauseam, and it's been explained back to you many times why people disagree with you. You just ignore all the answers and then say the same thing again, spamming every thread with... -
Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
Difficult, costly, painstaking... but impossible? They wouldn't be trying to rebuild it using the same pieces, they'd be trying to establish which specific sections were the first to fail, and what caused that. Identifying where structural steel that failed initially was positioned within the... -
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Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
NIST does nothing here but offer a parade of logical fallacies, irrelevancies and nonsense. Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7? Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the...- jomper
- Post #76
- Forum: 9/11
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N.F.P.A. 921 - Did NIST disregard it in investigating 9/11?
I'll speak to 3) and 5) 5) Fighters were scrambled but lacked specific information as to the whereabouts of their targets. Some were vectored according to a threat plan that assumed aircraft approaching from the East... -
Chomsky dispels 9/11 conspiracies with sheer logic [video]
But Landru, that has been posted many times on this forum. It didn't cut it then and it doesn't cut it now. It is circular argument. You post that and someone else then has to say, 'thermite doesn't make that loud noise'. Thermite could easily have been placed in lift shafts and in the... -
Towards A Replicable Physical Model Illustrating Aspects of the Collapse of The WTC Towers on 9/11
I had an extended discussion on Facebook regarding this model, and specifically the scale of the strength of the connections. I'm not sure if I got the point across though. https://www.facebook.com/groups/286311730249/permalink/10154210689525250/ Full discussion enclosed in this spoiler, for size. -
Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
Your first sentence says it all about NIST. Using NIST as a reference is like using the 911 Commission Report for the official story. At least USGS & FEMA acknowledges the high temperatures. I don't know why people on this forum use NIST as their reference when its data is flawed to begin... -
Does NIST not testing for explosives and not testing WTC7 steel invalidate everything
You may die old, before the official story is debunked on this site. lol Oh, oh this is off topic. Then you're saying that NIST failed to test for explosive residue. That says it all. NIST failed at using an actual model and instead used a computer generated model. NIST failed to report... -
"100 Critical Points About 9/11 "
The following excerpts are from http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtc7.cfm 27. Why didn't the investigators look at actual steel samples from WTC 7? Steel samples were removed from the site before the NIST investigation began. In the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001... -
WTC 7 (Building 7)
Then your perception is faulty. Even in the limited video available you can SEE the internals collapsing first. The penthouse fell before the fascia BECAUSE it was standing on columns which were collapsing. It is plainly visible to everyone else but you. You haves simply duped yourself if you... -
Paraody of AE911: Free-fall descent proves giant hole, not explosives used!
No, I have never messed around with thermite or explosives. I have cut steel though and been involved in demolishing a small number of buildings. But let me take you on a fugue. You are a crewman on the Starship Enterprise and it has come back in time to 9.11.2001. Now you are given a mission... -
Debunked: Iron Microspheres in 9/11 WTC Dust as Evidence for Thermite
Except the XEDS mapping data which showed both Fe2O3 and elemental Al, the DSC test which demonstrated a sharp exotherm at about 450C and the by-products of this ignition which were iron microspheres very much like the ones found in the WTC dust, yes, except for that, there's "no real evidence"...- Jay Howard
- Post #542
- Forum: 9/11
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WTC 7 (Building 7)
Keep in mind, when saying that the NIST didn't test for explosives forensically; but they concluded it did not happen. http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtc7.cfm 13. Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?Yes...