Lim indeed does sound desperate, especially since he has already had no success proselytizing "academics" into the cult of chemtrails belief. Surely this has shaken him and he is already in denial of it. We've seen this before but it is visual.
I replied this way:
His comment:
This seems to most likely be coming from the hard core promoters, and it is sad that they have inculcated this into him. As I've directed him to this thread, I'll address him personally here.
David, we define bunk
this way. Read it carefully, hold us to it's precepts, and refine your own assertions when they become debunked. It is not us, however, which fully debunks anything. Time does that far better than anything else, and there is a certain finality to that which no human can accomplish. I give you one year. If you honestly pursue the facts about chemtrails, and are not simply maintaining your position for egotistical reasons, it will be all over for you and you will move on. I encourage you to fully engage on this subject, and that will include not only establishing communications with us, but maintaining a steady dialogue here.
I also warn you that many in the chemtrails believer world are neither honest nor reliable. This will soon become apparent to you. They will tell half-truths, spread rumor as fact, and will usually offer very little evidentiary support for their claims. They will show a lack of logical and critical thought. You can find examples of their behaviors here at metabunk on a daily basis.
That is what we do.
Even if you truly believe we are part of a secretive cabal of disinformation operatives, it benefits you to carefully monitor what we do and say, because the arguments set forth here will eventually and inescapably come up wherever you go. We think. We speak. We offer up sound reasoning based on facts surrounding this subject which you will find nowhere else. We will help you to see through some of the people you may currently be trusting, but who would mislead you if they can. Likely they have already told you to never come here, to avoid discussion with us, to not know what we are saying. That would be a big mistake, because they want you to make the same mistake they did, to not know. Do you understand? They actually want you to
not know. I cannot stress that enough. They have already hidden themselves away in a bubble, they want to put
you in there too!
I'll leave you with a little question as a starting point for future dialogue.
What is the best, the single-most irrefutable scientifically provable piece of evidence that "chemtrails" are anything other than ordinary contrails?
Boil it down. Pare it to the minimum. No opinions, no long list of dubiously connected suspicions, no history. Present to us here what you would present in your one minute before Parliament which is indisputable. Think carefully, and good luck. Hope to see your response soon.