How to Start a New Thread

Mick West

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Before you start a new thread, make sure you are familiar with the posting guidelines:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/posting-guidelines.2064/

Basically you select a forum, then click on "Post New Thread".







UPDATE:

If you are already reading a thread, then you can create a new thread in the same forum with the "Post New Thread" link at the top:
 
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Tried to start a thread, but was told: ' Your message contains a video that does not have an adequate description'. (It does). ... 'All videos should be accompanied by a description of the point of evidence in the video that you want to convey., together with a time location '... I did ask for the video to be debunked- that's the whole video- there's an awful lot to go through, it's simpler to just watch the video than write a list of all the points- that's why we have videos.
 
Tried to start a thread, but was told: ' Your message contains a video that does not have an adequate description'. (It does). ... 'All videos should be accompanied by a description of the point of evidence in the video that you want to convey., together with a time location '... I did ask for the video to be debunked- that's the whole video- there's an awful lot to go through, it's simpler to just watch the video than write a list of all the points- that's why we have videos.


No. Its simpler to list the specific claims (possibly each its own thread) you want debunked rather than make everybody watch a lengthy video in hopes they will debunk a gish gallop of claims.

One doesnt debunk videos, one debunks claims of evidence made in videos or elsewhere.

the onus is on you to specify the specific claims you want debunked.
 
Tried to start a thread, but was told: ' Your message contains a video that does not have an adequate description'. (It does). ... 'All videos should be accompanied by a description of the point of evidence in the video that you want to convey., together with a time location '... I did ask for the video to be debunked- that's the whole video- there's an awful lot to go through, it's simpler to just watch the video than write a list of all the points- that's why we have videos.

Also to contribute an idea, since I don't know exactly how long the video that you wished to upload is --- if it's very long and covers multiple issues, then it might be advisable to edit it into "chunks" (if you have that capability). Each "chunk" could then, as suggested, be addressed in individual threads.

I am actually researching methods that allow this procedure (of selecting video scenes and sequences). Thanks to the Internet, this is far easier than it's ever been to research into available software/programs. ( Hopefully either free, or very low-cost! ;) )
 
No. Its simpler to list the specific claims (possibly each its own thread) you want debunked rather than make everybody watch a lengthy video in hopes they will debunk a gish gallop of claims.

One doesnt debunk videos, one debunks claims of evidence made in videos or elsewhere.

the onus is on you to specify the specific claims you want debunked.
So how do I start a new Forum subject. Or is that only the province of the administrators?
 
Is there any way to edit my thread posts for grammar errors and is there anyway to delete a post?
Post editing is limited for new users to prevent spam. Once you've made a few posts you can edit posts. If there's an grammar emergency you can ask a mod. I recommend proof-reading before posting.
 
Tried to start a thread, but was told: ' Your message contains a video that does not have an adequate description'. (It does). ... 'All videos should be accompanied by a description of the point of evidence in the video that you want to convey., together with a time location '... I did ask for the video to be debunked- that's the whole video- there's an awful lot to go through, it's simpler to just watch the video than write a list of all the points- that's why we have videos.
Can it be sharded via a link? Just a thought
 
Can it be sharded via a link? Just a thought
From the Posting Guidelines.

Links

The reader should not have to click on a link in order to understand what the post is about. When you link to something to back up something you are discussing then:
Links themselves are not content, they are references.

Videos

The reader should not have to watch the video in order to understand what is in it.
  • Describe what the video is about, explain how it is relevant.
  • Use time codes to precisely locate the relevant portions of the video (preferably wth the time encoded in a link).
  • Provide a transcript of any important speech or text in the video.
  • Use annotated screen grabs to convey the content.
  • If you can, create an animated looping GIF (under 2MB) of the most relevant part.

Attachments

Image attachments should be inserted into the post, not attached at the end where the reader has to click on them. Attachments such as PDF files should be treated as links, with an explanation of what the file contains, and if possible quote the relevant text and/or images.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/posting-guidelines.2064/
 
Can it be sharded via a link? Just a thought

I don't think that's the point, there are different ways to share a video. It's HOW one shares a video. Note the posting guidelines above from Landru. User Judgywudgy pretty much says he was violating most of the guidelines for videos:

judgywudgy: "I did ask for the video to be debunked- that's the whole video- there's an awful lot to go through, it's simpler to just watch the video than write a list of all the points- that's why we have videos."

He's saying he didn't provide time stamps, or an adequate description of the specific claim made in the video that he wants debunked. Rather, he expected us to watch through the entire video and make our own list of all the points, something he says there is a lot of, then provide him with what seem like point by point debunks.

That's not how it works here. One cannot make unsubstituted claims, one must provide sourced evidence for they're claims. Or when providing claims, they are thoroughly explained with the relevant evidence, one cannot ask the other members to do their work for them.

If the video was making multiple unrelated or semi-related claims, they are usually split into multiple threads. For example, many long UFO YouTube videos are collections of various cases like Roswell, Scirocco the Pheonix lights and so on. Each case would have its own thread, not one big thread about one long video.

If the video is one central claim, with supporting evidence, then it is the job of the member originating the post to give a detailed description of the claim and the evidence AND provide time stamps at the very least for each bit of information. It's NOT the job of the other members to watch through a video and try to decipher what the originating poster was after.

In addition to time stamps, many YouTube videos have Closed Caption and transcripts, so actual quotes can be used instead of going back and forth in a video.

When in doubt, one should read the posting guidelines and ask if they are violating any of them. If it's unclear, then ask a mod, but remember, the mods are volunteers, so they may take a bit to answer a question depending on who's doing what. One can also ask various members with the PM feature. Most regulars are willing to help. Click on a member's name and one gets an option to start a PM.
 
Can it be shared via a link? Just a thought
Many of the common video sites are recognized by the forum. For example, if you paste a youtube link, the video is automatically embedded, and the forum shows it as such. Most videos would be too big to be uploaded, anyway.

You should then screenshot or transcribe (or both) the important bits. Upload the screenshots as attachments to your post (when writing or editing the post), and then click on them to "insert"—"full image" into your post.

Ideally, I should know what the claim/evidence is about before I start watching the video.

It can be a lot of work to make a good OP (and first attempts often get rejected), but it's really necessary to get a good discussion going.
 
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Many of the common video sites are recognized by the forum. For example, if you paste a youtube link, the video is automatically embedded, and the forum shows it as such.
Quick related note for anybody who does not already know: if you watch a video up to the point you want to share, the right click, one of your options is "Copy video URL at current time." Sharing that link will cue up the video in a post here to the point you want to show.
youtube time stamp.jpg
Example: URL generated by clicking next to the huge red arrow would put a link to this video which would start at the 1:37 mark, where the video of some UAP (Unlikely Aerial Photon-emitter) starts...

https://youtu.be/vTS6ebGlX7s?t=97
 
Quick related note for anybody who does not already know: if you watch a video up to the point you want to share, the right click, one of your options is "Copy video URL at current time." Sharing that link will cue up the video in a post here to the point you want to show.
youtube time stamp.jpg
Example: URL generated by clicking next to the huge red arrow would put a link to this video which would start at the 1:37 mark, where the video of some UAP (Unlikely Aerial Photon-emitter) starts...


Source: https://youtu.be/vTS6ebGlX7s?t=97


Just FIY, there is also the option to have a YouTube video start at a selected time via the "share" tab. At the bottom is a tic box to start the video at a certain time:

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