1. MikeG

    MikeG Senior Member


    I recently finished reading Sebastian Junger, Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging (New York: Hatchett Book Group, 2016).

    One of the points made late in the book brought our discussions in Metabunk to mind (my emphasis):


    And, just to clarify, I don't mean our contempt, but the attitudes that tend to influence discussions of conspiracies in general.
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  2. Leifer

    Leifer Senior Member

    In my opening post, I should have included "films you've watched".
    Well two films stood out this week, as they are now on subscription cable.....

    One, a documentary by Werner Herzog, "Lo and Behold: Reveries of the Connected World"

    ...and a scripted feature based on a true story... "The Man Who Knew Infinity"
  3. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    I love Herzog. I watched this again the other night
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  4. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    An interesting mix of history, legend and folklore
  5. qed

    qed Senior Member


    As a noir-freak, I was overjoyed to discover Perfidia (2014), an Ellroy novel that I had not read. While written last, sequentially it becomes the first book in the Dudley Smith quartet. Set over the days of the Pearl Harbour attack, the novel traces the roots of the quartet's main protagonists, namely Dudley Smith (fictional) and William H.Parker (non-fictional).

    When I started "reading" two weeks ago, I found the repeated use of the term "fifth column" unnatural and jarring. I had never heard it used before (Ellroy had to explain it to us in a quote). It is used like "red" was in the 80s.

    That however changed for me over Christmas 2017. I am now hearing the term "fifth column" (and "deep state") in mainstream US discourse for the first time in my lifetime : (
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  6. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member


    An interesting read (if your a transport buff). In effect its the history of locomotive development on the Great Western Railway and on into British Railways (Western Region) days 1837 - 1980. But it does delve into the realms of railway related conspiracy. Eg, When William Stanier left the GWR for the LMS in 1932 was it as a snub to the GWR directors and did he take some of the GWR's new boiler technology with him as a two fingered salute to his boss Charles Collet after Collet rejected his 1931 proposal to develop a high pressure compound version of Collets Castle locomotivess? Did F.W. Hawksworth really intend to develop a 4-6-2 pacific version of the King Class 4-6-0's or was it just a publicity stunt to undermine the choice of Robert Riddles as the CME of the newly nationalised British Railways? Did the GWR's long term relationship with the state German Railways lead to the Western Regions decision to develop diesel hydraulic traction when the rest of British railways were developing diesel electric locomotives as planned for in the 1955 Modernisation plan?

    Interesting stuff, Mr Summers has researched the whole thing very well and it is well penned making for a gripping read. But above all it goes to show you can find conspiracy - real or imagined - wherever you care to look. :)
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  7. sitarzan

    sitarzan Member

    The book I'm recommending these days is UFOs, Chemtrails, and Aliens: What Science Says:


    To get an idea of the book, check out this really neat video with Michael Shermer and the two authors, Donald Prothero & Timothy Callahan, discussing it in a recent lecture sponsored by Skeptic Magazine's Science Salon.

    Though it's not included in the book itself, one particularly rare nugget in the video is at the 32:00 mark where Shermer shares an interesting story about the time he was "captured by aliens".

    He describes a hallucination where he was surrounded by crooked-pinky-fingered 60s era alien Invaders that had taken on human form as his friends and family.

    I wonder. Does that mean Shermer has unfulfilled subconscious longings to be an overly paranoid architect which he's suppressed all these years? Just kidding. Michael Shermer is my guy.
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  8. Peter Perry

    Peter Perry New Member

    So far this has been a nice read.

    Attached Files:

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  9. qed

    qed Senior Member


    Not to be missed. Audio book available.
  10. Jeremy

    Jeremy Active Member

    I'm reading The Cold Six Thousand right now.
  11. David Fraser

    David Fraser Senior Member

    Admittedly this is late to reply but I was brought up with the term "Fifth Column". It was used along terms like "Quisling" (who was a Norweigan) to describe what you posted. I am 50 and through my childhood the only 3 channels at home would show all the old WW2 films.
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  12. Whitebeard

    Whitebeard Senior Member

    An interesting and challenging exploration of humanities relationship with firearms. has some insightful sections on the US gun lobby and related 'Obamas try'na get our guns' conspiracies and other topics like their reactions to events like Sandy Hook and Columbine.

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  13. Twoulted

    Twoulted New Member

    Atm reading "Conspiracy Theories" by Mark Fenster :s
  14. qed

    qed Senior Member

    Keep your (Metabunk) tongue firmly in your cheek while reading:rolleyes:! It is a novel.
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  15. qed

    qed Senior Member

    Of course, no literary exploration of "the JFK incident" is complete with out the grandmaster's Libra.


    I have just begun re-"reading"...
  16. MikeG

    MikeG Senior Member

    Hillbilly Elegy.
    I just finished J.D. Vance Hillbilly Elegy (New York: HarperCollins, 2016). It is a complex book that talks about the breakdown of parts of American society in the last two generations.

    On pages 190-195, Vance talks about the conspiracy theories that have filled in the vacuum, from Alex Jones to the usual tropes about Obama's birth certificate, false flags, etc.

    A thoughtful work. Definitely work reading for the sake of context.
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