Zika Virus: News, microcephaly and conspiracy theories

deirdre

Senior Member.
I'm starting this thread for general news, updates and discussion regarding Zika Virus.

Conspiracy theories and specific claims of evidence contrary to health official reports should be presented in new threads. As such threads are created i will update this post with links to them.


Individual claim threads:
(gmo mosquitos)

(Tdap)

(pyriproxyfen, pesticide, monsanto)
 
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deirdre

Senior Member.
I had a related question.

How many total Zika cases are we talking about? I found a Reuters report that said 1.5 million people in Brazil are infected.

http://www.reuters.com/article/health-zika-brazil-exclusive-idUSKCN0VA33F

There is an al-Jazeera story that places the number in Colombia at 20,000.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/20000-infected-zika-virus-colombia-160130165855047.html

Does anybody have official sources?
havent found any official sources with estimate numbers yet, but saw this..explains a bit more about estimates
 

MikeG

Senior Member.
There's a graphical representation of those same numbers here:
https://nerik.cartodb.com/viz/b623aa76-c8dc-11e5-8752-0ecfd53eb7d3/public_map

Database:
https://nerik.cartodb.com/tables/zika_cases_country/public

However, it does not say where the numbers came from (the cited reference is for the orange circles, prevalence of a type of mosquito)
Thanks Mick. I see what look like citation numbers with the information (circled), but I can't find the actual references.

Zika Map.png
 

qed

Senior Member

the guardian
 

MikeG

Senior Member.
I found an interesting article on ScienceBlogs.


Zika virus and microcephaly: The conspiracy theories flow fast and furious


http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2...he-conspiracy-theories-flow-fast-and-furious/
 

Dan Wilson

Senior Member.
I found an interesting article on ScienceBlogs.
The Nature article they mention is neat.

http://www.nature.com/news/zika-vir...ll-headed-babies-questioned-by-report-1.19259
 

Dan Wilson

Senior Member.
Science is also covering the issue.
http://www.sciencemag.org/topic/zika-virus
Here is a noteworthy and relevant article.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/zika-virus-your-questions-answered
 

Miss VocalCord

Senior Member.
Another claim for the source for the increase in cases of microphaly:
http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne...ito_insecticide_as_cause_of_microcephaly.html



moderator add: this topic discussed in new thread https://www.metabunk.org/zika-virus...-causing-brazils-microcephaly-outbreak.t7305/
 
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JesseCuster

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I read a thread on another forum claiming that Zika is the start of the NWO's (or Illuminati or whoever) depopulation of the earth to bring the population down to under a billion.

A smaller population is easier to control and the elite can horde more of the earth's resources for themselves. Everyone from Monsanto to Bill Gates to the Rockefeller Foundation have been implicated in this conspiracy.

I've been reading for ages now about the NWO's imminent depopulation of the earth. They're clearly hopelessly incompetent because year after the world's population just keeps going up and up and up. That's the thing about conspiracies about upcoming terrible things about to be done by the UN, FEMA, NWO, etc. They never get round to actually putting any of their dastardly plans into action.

In the same thread was a rather bizarre suggestion that because there have been links suggested between Zika and microcephaly, that the plan is to use the virus to breed a new generation of small brained humans. Having smaller brains would make us stupider and even easier to be manipulated by our big brained elites.

edit: Whoops, just read the OP, conspiracy stuff shouldn't have been posted here.
 
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MikeG

Senior Member.
I read a thread on another forum claiming that Zika is the start of the NWO's (or Illuminati or whoever) depopulation of the earth to bring the population down to under a billion.

A smaller population is easier to control and the elite can horde more of the earth's resources for themselves. Everyone from Monsanto to Bill Gates to the Rockefeller Foundation have been implicated in this conspiracy.

I've been reading for ages now about the NWO's imminent depopulation of the earth. They're clearly hopelessly incompetent because year after the world's population just keeps going up and up and up. That's the thing about conspiracies about upcoming terrible things about to be done by the UN, FEMA, NWO, etc. They never get round to actually putting any of their dastardly plans into action.

In the same thread was a rather bizarre suggestion that because there have been links suggested between Zika and microcephaly, that the plan is to use the virus to breed a new generation of small brained humans. Having smaller brains would make us stupider and even easier to be manipulated by our big brained elites.

edit: Whoops, just read the OP, conspiracy stuff shouldn't have been posted here.
Here you go:

https://www.metabunk.org/gmo-mosquitoes-spreading-zika-virus.t7251/#post-175074
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
There was a guy on the Art Bell (Heather Wade) called Dr Bill Deagle and couple nights ago. I didn't catch it all or very clearly due to having the flu and trying to sleep, but he said something like "weaponized" in relation to what happens to the virus(?) over time.

In the end, he even freaked out host Heather by exposing himself as a conspiracy theorist of the highest(lowest?) degree. He brought up everything including 911, which he said was done with some sort of chain of nukes or something, OKC bombing, where he said military explosives were involved, to Sandy Hook.

Heather Wade even began asking: "How do you know that?" several times. Sorry I can't provide better details. The guy is a fundamentalist Christian, it seems, and has been all about prophecy of doom, etc, for a long time.
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
these type of claims do make me laugh, albeit in a sadly sardonic sort of way.

Humanity has suffered plagues and the like for millennia. Black Death anyone? Typhoid or yellow fever? Spanish flu? In the more religious times of the past these were either the work of the devil or gods judgement. People would flock to church, pray like ballyhoo and give thanks when the epidemic burnt itself out, as they nearly always do given time.

However these days in the west at least, we are a mainly secular society, where we live in more enlightened times, and majority of folks understand the way pandemics work, if only on a base level. Hell, there are even a series of quite entertaining flash computer games that explain the basics...

http://www.gamingdelight.com/games/pandemic.php
http://www.addictinggames.com/strategy-games/pandemic2.jsp
http://pandemic3.com/
(3 is not out of beta yet, but the release is imminent)

But stuff like death my ebola or zika mutated kids is still scary, and to those who already have a 'faith' in conspiracy and a distrust in science and authorities they are perfect prods into a form of neo-religious behaviour where Bill Gates and the rest of the NWO-lizard people elite replace the evil demons and David Icke and the rest of the conspiracy gurus become replacements for god. They think that by trusting in their gurus and by preaching their 'this the work of our modern day demons' mantras they will make a difference and if they can't stop the plagues then at least they will die knowing they have done their mentors 'good works'. Then when the pandemic burns out, they will claim it is their exposure of 'the truth' that cased the elite to stop their nefarious doings.

However the really sad thing is, they fail to see what really causes these pandemics to spread and be so devastating. The poverty, the lack of clean water, the social inequality etc, and if they put half the effort they expend on spreading their gurus bunk into addressing the real cause of these outbreaks, then something positive may well result. But sadly that would involve understanding real science and living in the real world, things the CT crowd don't believe in and don't want to do.
:(
 

Dan Wilson

Senior Member.
Evidence is continuing to mount that Zika could in fact be responsible for microcephaly cases and other neurodegenerative problems.
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/03/zika-virus-kills-developing-brain-cells
We still don't have a causative link, as these experiments were done in a culture dish and, as always, it is hard to make clinically relevant conclusions based on experiments done in a dish. The point here is that Zika is a continuing to be a more plausible explanation for these outbreaks than what the many conspiracy theories suggest.
 
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