Will Thomas - he is back

firepilot

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Well I thought he had drifted away and was not that involved anymore. Well from aircrap, there is a link to a radio interview did for a Mojave radio talk show.

http://mohavecountyconstitution.com/videos/11-9-11 Chem Trails with Will Thomas.mp3

Full of the usual claptrap and allegations, seems even a couple of contradictions at times in everything he says. Now he is alleging that he used to be a pilot, a private pilot I imagine.
But I have never read or heard him mention that before. Not sure I believe it, but if he actually does have a pilot license, then thats just more evidence he is lying through his teeth as usual about the chemtrails.
Or he could just be lying about having his pilots license. I wonder if Canadian records are online like US FAA.

I would love to have a chance to call in on one of those "shows" he goes on to, and just nail him.
 

firepilot

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See his resume. Soloed a Cessna 150 in 1964, but that seems to be it.
Soloing a Cessna 150, just means he was a student pilot. Never a licensed one, and he should not be exactly claiming he was a pilot. Yet another Will Thomas embellishment. Somehow I think his background is full of embellishments. I had mistakenly thought he was born in Canada, I guess he was born here and then went to Canada. I also find it a bit dubious, but not impossible, that he was a Commissioned officer in the Naval Reserves and fled to Canada.

His Celerity heritage trust site is just a plea for other people to give him money to fix up his boat that he made.
 

Mick West

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I've been described as "a pilot" too, even though I've only got a student license. I have flown a 150 mile round trip solo, which was quite impressive to my mother, but when people think "pilot" they generally think of the people who have a job as a pilot.
 

firepilot

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Or at least having a pilot license. Will can say that he has soloed a Cessna 150, which is fine. But he tries to claim the title of being a pilot, in order to embellish and give him some credibility with spreading conspiracies.

And at least in the US, if you actually have a pilot license, it does not expire. Your medical certification can expire however.
 

MikeC

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The FAA has no record of a William Thomas with an Airman Certificate living in Canada - the website is at https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx

perhaps I mis-did the search - I got his location from the "contact" at the site mentioned above. A date of birth would be better as an identifier, but it is only given as 1948 in that resume.

And of course he might have a Canadian licence - they do not seem to have a searchable online database.
 

Mick West

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You can search by keyword on Amazon. This was the result for "Nozzle"


(search does not cover all the pages though)
 
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firepilot

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Oh it gets better. That reminded me that i had seen the pics on his website.

http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Image_Library/pages/Chemtrails_deervalley_citation.htm

This is yet another entirely ridiculous Will Thomas fabrication. Obviously that big port is for the APU, not sure what the bottom one on the engine nacelle is, but thats no secret modification.

Here is the funny part though. Notice how he said the reg number was actually for some helicopter. Nope, but as you can see it is "N1AG". And who was the owner then, why none other than Morgan Freeman, the plane is now N921BE.

So, if he is accusing this of being some chemplane, then he is accusing Morgan Freeman of being a chemtrail pilot, since Morgan does fly it himself too.
 

Jay Reynolds

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Does anyone actually have his book? I am wondering what the spray nozzles are. I am thinking they are probably the KC-135 boom icing test attachment, and probably the E-6A TACAMO fuel dump, and maybe KC-135 drogue pods.
I don't have the book, but in the early days, the entire premise of the chemtrails hoax was that it was only USAF tankers which were just lowering their tail booms and pumping stuff out. After a year or two of seeing pictures where the contrails were obviously in line with multiple engines, that didn't work too well, especially when Thomas never produced EVEN ONE picture of a tanker dumping from a tail boom. When Thomas & Co. claimed that there was no commercial traffic over Maine, as he does in the first pages of his book, Chickiedeb and I did a Flight Explorer study of ordinary jet traffic on the same day of the week and the same time of day as Thomas wrote about. What we found was that they were directly under all the incoming flights on Great Circle routes from Europe.
Here are the studies from ten years ago, the first ever done using flight tracking:
http://goodsky.homestead.com/files/brendt1.html
http://goodsky.homestead.com/files/brendt2.html

There was literally so much traffic that the screen was so covered wih data and planes came so fast they couldn't be counted in the second link, yet I see Thomas is still claiming there is no air traffic over the area.
 

MikeC

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Doh! I hadn't noticed there was more than 1 page in the gallery!!:rolleyes:

The drain under the engine is just the oil drain common on virtually all engines - IIRC it was discussed on Contrail Science a few weeks ago when someone noticed similar drains on other engines

The FAA registry for N1AG doesn't show that registration as having been owned by Morgan Freeman tho - at least not directly - it is currently a Beech 400 owned by GOSSETT AVIATION LLC, and before then was a Beech F35 (Bonanza E35 with an extra window on each side) - see it's record at http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N1AG

Gossett Aviation doesn't seem to have much info - N1AG is their only a/c - http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...t=GOSSETT+AVIATION+LLC&sort_option=1&PageNo=1
 

firepilot

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Doh! I hadn't noticed there was more than 1 page in the gallery!!:rolleyes:

The drain under the engine is just the oil drain common on virtually all engines - IIRC it was discussed on Contrail Science a few weeks ago when someone noticed similar drains on other engines

The FAA registry for N1AG doesn't show that registration as having been owned by Morgan Freeman tho - at least not directly - it is currently a Beech 400 owned by GOSSETT AVIATION LLC, and before then was a Beech F35 (Bonanza E35 with an extra window on each side) - see it's record at http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N1AG

Gossett Aviation doesn't seem to have much info - N1AG is their only a/c - http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...t=GOSSETT+AVIATION+LLC&sort_option=1&PageNo=1
http://www.laasdata.com/corpjet/corpjet-by-type.php?t=16

N921BE Cessna 501 Citation ISP 501-0174 (ex N1AG)
http://www.celebrityaircraft.com/aircraft/celebrity/aircraft.html?3876=1098

Aircraft Owned by Morgan Freeman

FAA Registry Info
Serial Number: 501-0174
Registrant: Corporation
Name: 921 Be Llc
Street: Po Box 1000
City: Clarksdale
State: MS
Postal: 38614-1000
Country: US
Last Activity: 2/27/2006
Certificate Issue: 12/9/2005
Aircraft Type: Fixed wing multi-engine
Engine Type: Turbo-fan
Status Code: Assigned
FAA Aircraft Info
Manufacturer: Cessna
Model: 501
Category: Land
Engines: 2
Seats: 8
Weight: Class 1
Registered: 269
Min Year: 1969
Max Year: 1999
Listings: 26
 

firepilot

Senior Member.
Yes I see the attribution ex N1AG - but I wonder if there is an error there - the FAA page for that serial number does not list N1AG - http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinq...spx?serialtxt=501-0174&sort_option=1&PageNo=1
Yes that plane is now registered as N921BE, like I listed. It used to be N1AG, and around the 2006 timeframe he had it changed to N921BE. I still found internet references of being N1AG in 2005 and being owned by Freeman too. But searching under N921BE still confirms it is Morgans
 

Mick West

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Speaking of interesting planes, N844AA just showed up on Facebook in the "Chemtrails Kill" group.



Those are diesel fuel tanks.It was a roving gas station in Africa, then got stolen.

They are also posting the usual "beer keg" pictures. But this one was new to me.
 
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firepilot

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And of course square tanks, are not pressurized either. At least one of the chemtrailers is trying to tell them that it is from gravity shift testing, but the others just do not want to believe it. They KNOW it for chemtrails...
 

Jay Reynolds

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I was thinking, those are very nice tanks for diesel. Too nice. They look like former dairy or food processing tanks. You get what you can in Africa, and not much gets thrown away.
You could fill those anks with the plasic through the top, then just gravity drain them out.
 

firepilot

Senior Member.
You can search by keyword on Amazon. This was the result for "Nozzle"


(search does not cover all the pages though)
Found out what that small pipe is. It is a drain mast, that drains fuel that was headed towards the combustion chamber when shutting down the turbine.

When starting a turbine, you do not want fuel in there already when you hit the start sequence and the igniters start going, which is the same with turboprops too, because that can result in hot start and damage the engine. You want the turbine spinning fast enough for there to be airflow going through, before you introduce fuel. And if you had just shut it down recently, there would still be fuel in there, which starting it then would be a bad idea. So thats the purpose of that drain, to purge that fuel so it can be safely restarted. Will Thomas assertion that no other jets have that, and how they contacted Cessna, etc, is just totally made up

Was just looking at a Westinghouse J34, that is still in use with a certain company, and we looked at exactly that kind of drain.
 
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