Who's Who at the November 13 2024 Congressional UAP Hearings

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Can we identify everyone who attended and sat in the audience? They seem to be the usual suspects from the UAP-fanclub.

This is who I recognise...

3rd Row: ? ? ? Danny Sheehan ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2nd Row: ? ? Leslie Kean ? ? ? ? Matt Ford ? ?
1st Row: ? ? Ryan Graves ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeremey Corbell, Christopher Bledsoe (maybe?)

This clip from News nation also shows them in line waiting to get into the Congress room.


Source: https://x.com/UAPJames/status/1856725530713759806?t=aAc6NCDe7QOz9avVx-GvcQ&s=19
 

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This is who I recognise...

3rd Row: ? ? ? Danny Sheehan ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2nd Row: ? ? Leslie Kean ? ? ? ? Matt Ford ? ?
1st Row: ? ? Ryan Graves ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeremey Corbell, Christopher Bledsoe (maybe?)
The guy next to Leslie Kean (to our right) kinda looks a little like Garry Nolan but I don't think it is him. The reason I thought of him is he is on the board of UAP Disclosure Fund which Gallaudet was representing.
 
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Can we identify everyone who attended and sat in the audience? They seem to be the usual suspects from the UAP-fanclub.

This is who I recognise...

3rd Row: ? ? ? Danny Sheehan ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2nd Row: ? ? Leslie Kean ? ? ? ? Matt Ford ? ?
1st Row: ? ? Ryan Graves ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeremey Corbell, Christopher Bledsoe (maybe?)
Corbell posted a video of the people around him:

Source: https://x.com/JeremyCorbell/status/1856737204191822193

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That's not Bledsoe (see below). But next to ? is James Fox and Marik von Rennenkampff. I think a lot of the people there are UFO podcasters.

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That's not Bledsoe (see below). But next to ? is James Fox and Marik von Rennenkampff. I think a lot of the people there are UFO podcasters.
Plus, Bledsoe isn't adorned with tattoos like that guy sitting next to Corbell.

But who determines the seating arrangement at something like this?
 
Can we identify everyone who attended and sat in the audience? They seem to be the usual suspects from the UAP-fanclub.
I have placed labels on most people attending to facilitate the identification process:

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This is who I recognise...

3rd Row: ? ? ? Danny Sheehan ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
2nd Row: ? ? Leslie Kean ? ? ? ? Matt Ford ? ?
1st Row: ? ? Ryan Graves ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jeremey Corbell, Christopher Bledsoe (maybe?)
A0 - Chris Ramsey
A1 - Jesse Michels
A3 - Pippa Malmgren
A4 - Ryan Graves
A5 - Peter Skafish - (co-Founder - Sol foundation)
A6 - Dillon Guthrie - (former aide to Sen. John Kerry)
A10 - Jeremy Corbell
A11 - Dan Cleary
A12 - James Fox
A13 - Marik von Rennenkampff
B3 - Leslie Kean
B5 - Yuan Fung (Executive Director - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B6 - Lester Nare (Director of Operations - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B7 - Jordan Flowers (Chief Financial Officer - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B8 - Matt Ford (Director of Strategy - UAP Disclosure Fund)
C5 - Daniel Peter Sheehan
? - Christopher Bledsoe
Is that Avi Loeb standing next to Jesse Michels (A1) in the queue in the last picture above?
 
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B13 = Ross Coulthart?
He did not attend, he was in Cairo.

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(00:00 - 00:58) Good day and welcome to a special edition of Reality Check coming to you live from Cairo, Egypt. I didn't attend today's hearing in the Congress for the house oversight and accountability committee, because I had a prior engagement to be a host of a tour of Egypt's ancient ruins and it's a very fascinating trip, I have to say, I'm really enjoying the experience and there is a definitive connection to the UAP mystery, because just like the UAP mystery, the issue of the ancient technologies, the mystery of the ancient technologies of the ancient ruins of Egypt are in plain sight, and they pose a conundrum, an inexplicable conundrum. Who the hell built them? And just like the UFO issue, there's a hell lot of evidence that everybody's been ignoring and sticking their head in the sand zone.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMVdPqMjHI
 
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The guy next to Michels could be Loeb, but I'm surprised if he wants to be associated with these clowns.
 
I have placed labels on most people attending to facilitate the identification process:

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A0 - Chris Ramsey
A1 - Jesse Michels
A3 - Pippa Malmgren
A4 - Ryan Graves
A5 - Peter Skafish - (co-Founder - Sol foundation)
A6 - Dillon Guthrie - (former aide to Sen. John Kerry)
A10 - Jeremy Corbell
A11 - Dan Cleary
A12 - James Fox
A13 - Marik von Rennenkampff
B3 - Leslie Kean
B5 - Yuan Fung (Executive Director - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B6 - Lester Nare (Director of Operations - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B7 - Jordan Flowers (Chief Financial Officer - UAP Disclosure Fund)
B8 - Matt Ford (Director of Strategy - UAP Disclosure Fund)
C5 - Daniel Peter Sheehan
? - Christopher Bledsoe
Is that Avi Loeb standing next to Jesse Michels (A1) in the queue in the last picture above?
Excellent work on this, btw.

A7- That's gotta be Ivan Hannel, Elizondo's lawyer.

And, boy, has he been on a twitter tirade recently. I believe directing most of his wrath at Danny Sheehan (?). Very unbecoming for all involved, and yet another example of the deep toxicity that exists within that twisted community.


Source: https://x.com/ivan_hannel/status/1856929631489679859
 
A7- That's gotta be Ivan Hannel, Elizondo's lawyer.
It's definitely him. He is also wearing the same pin as Elizondo.

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A2 is Dr. Angel A. Diaz (Founder and former CEO of Allegient Defense). His former company was sold (again) last month and is now BCS Allegient. He remains as Chief Development Officer (CDO). He knows Gallaudet.

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Dr. Diaz background is in computing:

- University of Maryland - BS, Computer Studies
- Strayer University - Management of Information Systems
- Strayer University - MBA
- The George Washington University - Doctor of Education (Ed.D), Executive Leadership and integrated course in cybersecurity

- WSET Level 2 Award in Wines - Virginia Wines & Spirits Academy

- US Navy Information Systems Administrator
- Network Engineer (USSOCOM - US Special Operations Command)
- Lead Design Engineer (SRC - Scientific Research Corporation, customer: US Army)
- Senior Network Engineer (SRC, customer: SPAWAR - Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command)
- Principal Engineer (SPC - System Planning Corporation, customer: DARPA)
- Adjunct Professor at Strayer University - Computer Information Systems
- Subject Matter Expert (Allegient Defense, customer: FBI)
- CEO (Allegient Defense)
- CDO (BCS Allegient)

sources:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/angeldiazpmp/details/experience/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/angeldiazpmp/details/education/
 
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Definitely her:
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Suzanne Matwyshen Gillen (Other names and spellings: Suzanne L. Matwyshen, and Suzanne Matwyshen-Gillen)

- George Washington University - BS, Environmental Studies
- John Hopkins University - MS, Environmental Sciences and Policy
- former Legislative Aide and Assistant in the Senate (Sen. David Bruce Vitter, Sen. John Thune, and Sen. Ted Cruz)
- Senior Director of Government Relations (Maxar Technologies Ltd)
- Associate Administrator (NASA Intergovernmental Affairs)
- Vice President of Government Relations (Redwire Space Inc., Redwire Corp, former Made in Space Inc., part of Made in Space Europe)

sources:
https://www.legistorm.com/person/bio/21747/Suzanne_Matwyshen_Gillen.html
https://www.desmog.com/wp-content/uploads/files/Suzanne Matwyshen Gillen LinkedIn.pdf

She is flagged as a lobbyist for all the private companies she held a government relations position:

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source: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/lobbyists/summary?cycle=2024&id=Y0000045817L
 
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It seemed Daniel Sheehan (C5) had a "twin brother" (and sister) (04:00 - 04:09):


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtIWsXfp-Ok&t=240s


But it turns out that is Jim Garrison (D6) (NPI Director for Washington, DC Office - New Paradigm Institute) (00:00 - 00:08 and 01:30 - 01:55):


Source: https://www.facebook.com/newparadigminst/videos/1101238238377709

In the footage above, Ron James (D8) presents himself as Media Relations Director - MUFON, and "Filmmaker of Accidental Truth" (12:42 - 12:50)

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Also in the footage above, Steve Bassett (D3) (founder of NPI and co-founder of Hollywood Disclosure Alliance. Also a registered lobbyist) (19:38 - 20:05)

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Captain Robert Salas (D4) (1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base nukes deactivation case) (22:55 - 23:15):

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Not convinced it is him.
At least we know he planned to attend:

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Over the past few months, I was asked multiple times by Staff of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability whether I am available to testify before the U.S. Congress on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs). As a result, I cleared my calendar for November 13, 2024 and prepared the following written statement. At the end, I was not called to testify before Congress and so I am posting below my intended statement.

Source: https://avi-loeb.medium.com/avi-loebs-statement-on-uap-to-the-house-oversight-and-accountability-committee-3cc124e8cdd8
 
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2 is Dr. Angel A. Diaz (Founder and former CEO of Allegient Defense).

Just a note on the revolving door of UFO people. I thought either Ryan Graves or maybe Jay Stratton had worked at Allegient Defense after their military careers. When Iooking up Stratton on LinkedIn I found a "Jay S." As Mr. S literally list AAWSAP, AATIP and the UAPTF in his profile, I'm pretty sure this is him. And take a look at who pops up in the "More people for you" column to the right:

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-stratton/

Stratton ended up at Radiance Technologies, not Allegient Defense. However, the LinkedIn thing gets kinda fun. Look up Graves and you also get suggestions for lots of regulars here on the forum like, Favor, Mellon, Puthoff, Pasulka and Kirkpatrick!

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/whygraves/

It's a fairly insular world.
 
It turns out A3 is Gallaudet's wife, Caren Gallaudet:
I'm pretty sure that D-1 is Randall Nickerson, the filmmaker behind The Ariel Phenomenon.
During his recent appearance on the Danny Jones podcast, Nickerson says that he drove all night to attend the hearing, and was first in line to get in.

Edit: Based on the date of the Podcast, Nov. 11, it seems obvious that Nickerson must have been referring to the 2023 hearings, but I still think that's him in the picture, as he obviously holds very strong feelings about these gatherings. He mentioned sitting next to Tim Gaulladet (I assumed he meant before the hearing actually started, or something), so that's what made me think he was referring to this most recent hearing. Do we have confirmation that Gallaudet was at the first hearing in July, 2023? That would be interesting in and of itself.

(I'd like to drop a link to the podcast in another thread. Boy oh boy, he gets into Whitely Strieber territory with all his own personal encounters. Not even sure what to make of any of it.)

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Journalists? Maybe.

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Per Ford's LinkedIn (bold by me):

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Matt Ford is an Emmy-winning political consultant, media personality, and producer based in Los Angeles. He is a trusted advisor to leading congressional representatives and their staffers on the UAP issue.

Matt has spearheaded numerous successful projects as a producer, including creating over 100 political ads for social media platforms. These ads have garnered 15 million unique views, showcasing his knack for captivating and engaging content. His production prowess extends to hosting The Good Trouble Show, where he engages in thought-provoking discussions with influential figures such as Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and other prominent political figures.

In addition to his media accomplishments, Matt Ford has established himself as a trusted political consultant, specializing in the complex topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP). He has provided valuable counsel on UAP-related matters to members of Congress, Congressional committees, and has worked closely with UAP whistleblowers. Matt's unique perspective and deep understanding of the subject have made him a go-to expert in navigating the intricacies of UAP in the political arena. His insightful op-eds on UAP and United States nuclear policy have been featured in publications like The Debrief and Crooks and Liars, further establishing him as a trusted voice in the field
He has a BFA in something:

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https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-ford-4631322a3/

Sharp does seem to be a contributor to the Daily Mail:

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Christopher Sharp, who has a background in communications, is the founder and editor-in-chief of Liberation Times. Based in London, he is also a senior contributing journalist at the Daily Mail.
https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/christopher-sharp/

And list "journalism" as a skill on LinkedIn:

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Interestingly, his LinkedIn makes NO mention of Liberation Times and I'm pretty sure this is him:

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His main website, Liberation Times that is not mentioned on LinkedIn, still has the 1939 Magenta UFO on the front page. Something that is almost certainly a combination of some hoxed documents and the ramblings of serial UFO spinner of yarns. Thread link below.

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https://www.liberationtimes.com/

Boswell is an LA based reporter for the Daily Mail:

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https://muckrack.com/josh-boswell

The Daily Mail IIRC was a bit sensational, but our UK friends would know better.

So yeah, in the modern day I guess they're journalist.

EDIT: The Italian UFO as mentioned on Sharp's Liberation Times discussed here:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/cl...ly-and-the-us-recovered-it.13282/#post-315299
 
I'm particularly interested in Michael Gold's contribution; he doesn't seem to be a UFO/UAP/Dinobeaver enthusiast, and his statement is quite sensible.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO12/20241113/117721/HHRG-118-GO12-Wstate-GoldM-20241113.pdf

So, a plea for funding.
Not much chance for success, but with a populist government, who knows?
I've been recommending to UFO buffs that they get together and fund their own research. If everyone tithed 10% of their income to a single program of the sort outlined by Gold, think of what could be accomplished.
 
Dr. Julia Mossbridge (E15) from RISE: Research & Innovation at the Scientific Edge.

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Jim Garrison (D6) introduces her as a researcher into the paraphenomenal (33:48 - 39:08):

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(33:48 to 34:09) I'd like to now introduce our final speaker Julia Mossbridge, who's been dealing in the area of the paraphenomenal and consciousness. She's the founder and director of the Mossbridge Institute, and she's doing seriously interesting stuff on this matter of the paraphenomenal.

(34:25 - 34:50) As a scientist, and as my family has been touched by the progress of science, and the controversial, or edge science, for as long as I have been alive. My father was a theoretical physicist (...), their parents were working for the Department of Energy. So, this is like a family affair.
(...)
(35:33 - 36:10) Thomas Kuhn, who wrote The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, talked about how these edge cases, these anomalous phenomena that we cannot currently explain under the umbrella of our current theories, are really important in pointing us towards what might be true. So, whatever is not fitting with your current theory, it's like a little hint from the universe about "hey, there is something here that you don't understand", and that's edge science. Is understanding those anomalous phenomena, they include UAP, they include consciousness phenomena, such as survival of death, telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, psychokinesis, mediumship.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/newparadigminst/videos/1101238238377709


RISE: Research & Innovation at the Scientific Edge

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source: https://www.change.org/p/establish-and-fund-rise-research-innovation-at-the-scientific-edge
 
Those are the minutes of last year's meeting.
embarrassed coughing...) So now I am really determined to see who was there, so I speed-watched the video (having triple checked that it is the recent one!)

I count 12 members present as the hearings open, which seems to drop to 9 later in the hearing, then to 6 near the end. (This might be due to boredom as it became clear nothing was going to be disclosed, or the need to attend another hearing, or just "my moment in the limelight is over, I'm outta here!")
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During the hearings, I counted the following speakers:
Ms. Mace (Chair)
Mr. Garcia
Mr. Grothman (co-Chair for the meeting?)
Mr. Moskowitz
Mr. Burchett
Mr. Higgins
Mr. Frost
Ms. Luna
Mr. Biggs
Mr. Burlison
Mr. Timmons
Ms. Boebert
Mr. Ogles

Note that is 13 members speaking, one more than was there when the hearings open, so at least one showed up once they were under way, in addition to some leaving.

I want to carry one point over from my deleted post above: there are 47 members of the full committee, this is a subcommittee hearing, apparently a joint meeting of Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation (17 members) with National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs (13 members, with some overlap between the subcommittees). So some seats are going to be empty in the normal course of business.
 
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Mr. Gold is Chief Growth Officer at Redwire Corporation.
Gold was Vice President of Civil Space at MAXAR Technologies.
Mr. Gold also spent thirteen years at Bigelow Aerospace
It explains the presence of Suzanne Gillen (A8) (post #15), as she worked for MAXAR and currently works for Redwire.

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