White orb over arizona that "zips into space", video from tiktok

[wannabelieve]

Original link:
Source: https://www.tiktok.com/@whiteorbufosoveraz1/video/7442914801451355438


Embedding the crop which is the best video in my opinion. The contrast detail is best viewed on an OLED screen if you have one.

The original videos are attached. The large orb is the moon, the moving orb is the object in question.

What's also interesting about this set of videos is that multiple people were apparently recording at the same time from different angles. The "whiteorb4.mov" video is the worst footage, but it's interesting because it does look at a casual glance to be a different angle and video source (the camera on this one is capturing the moon's light very differently). Also, the audio tracks from the clips can be correlated.

 

[Mick West]

multiple people

Who? What did they say? Where is it? When was it?
What evidence is there that it's not a drone?

 

[wannabelieve]

Who? What did they say? Where is it? When was it?
What evidence is there that it's not a drone?

I mentioned "multiple people apparently recording"

The key word being apparently. I have no idea if multiple people actually recorded this.

What evidence is there that it's not a drone?

The motion at the end of the clip seems implausible for a drone.

If anything the motion makes me think that the most plausible option is that the video is a fake / the orb was added in post production, but I'm not sure how to do analysis to check that.

P.S. I should have mentioned, longtime lurker and skeptic. Posting out of curiosity on others' thoughts on this particular set of videos.

 

[wannabelieve]

Also, I'll copy and paste the claim from the original video for convenience, this is the poster's claimed time and location information:

April 12th, 2024 8:11pm MST in Eastern Arizona on the Black River in the White Mountains on the Fort Apache Indian Reservation

 

[wannabelieve]

I've reached out to the uploader asking if they can upload the raw/uncompressed footage files to google drive or something.

 

[wannabelieve]

Nevermind! Solved, it's starlink!

This is the deorbital burn performed by the Starlink 6-49 second stage; here's another video of the same event recorded from Arizona:


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM4KgmJp3SE

There was an existing reddit thread on this that I missed.


credit:
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1h3ibap/comment/lzqzg4v/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

 

[john.phil]

It looks like a SpaceX launch (Starlink Group 6-49). The video description states:

April 12th, 2024 8:11pm MST in Eastern Arizona on the Black River in the White Mountains on the Fort Apache Indian Reservation

On the same day, there was a SpaceX launch at 9:40pm EDT (7:40pm MST). Then the upper stage made its way around the Earth and at 08:11pm MST it approached Arizona from the Northwest:

source: https://flightclub.io/result/3d?simulationId=sim_wvt7aseiz

About a minute and a half later, which is the approximate duration of the footage, the upper stage exited Arizona towards the Southeast.

 

[NorCal Dave]

Embedding the crop which is the best video in my opinion. The contrast detail is best viewed on an OLED screen if you have one.

What the hell is with the ominous music? And nobody watches Tiktok on an OLED screen, they stare at their phones. I also like the "PLEASE SHARE BEFORE THEY TAKE THIS DOWN" in the original. Who's "they"? The mods at Tiktok that left up videos of how to steal a Kia and post it to the "Steal a Kia challenge" on Tiktok for nearly 3 weeks:

A video was posted on TikTok on July 12, 2022, where the author uses a USB connector on a naked key slot and successfully starts a car.[11]​ This vulnerability exists on a type of ignition switch used in many Kia/Hyundai cars sold until 2021, which are not equipped with an immobilizer system.[12]​ The video was taken down on July 25.[11]​

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Challenge

If someone sees something weird or unusual, as this would have appeared, then posting it as such is fine. Here's what I saw, what might it be? When every slightly unusual thing is aliens and is accompanied by pleas to "SHARE" as it will soon be taking down, it just gets a bit disingenuous.

Seems @john.phil might have figured this one out. And that would have been pretty cool to see while out in the wilderness.

 

[Mendel]

When every slightly unusual thing is aliens and is accompanied by pleas to "SHARE" as it will soon be taking down, it just gets a bit disingenuous.

People just copy what they see on similar videos, it's a kind of mantra. It also helps generate views.

 

[wannabelieve]

I've since sent the uploader the evidence that this was starlink. They seem genuine so hopefully they'll post something to clarify things.

 

[FatPhil]

The motion at the end of the clip seems implausible for a drone.

I'll grant that it dims and appears to shrink, and that those properties are associated with something becoming more distant at an increasingly rapid rate. And I'll grant that the acceleration, and terminal speed, for such an object would be too fast for a drone. However, it might be dimming because it's dimming, and the rest is an illusion. Distance, and longitudinal speed, are notoriously difficult to eyeball, c.f. cars being t-boned by motorbikes at junctions. This case is a classic example of the illusion; as I said, your senses were accurate, it was only the interpretation that was flawed. Triangulation (or trilateration) is needed to be sure of things positions in space. Corroborative evidence isn't just asked for because it helps weed out hoaxes, it's because it helps make factual conclusions that are impossible without it.

[EDIT: it's the bikes that t-bone the effin SMIDSYers, not the other way round.]

 

[wannabelieve]

I'll grant that it dims and appears to shrink, and that those properties are associated with something becoming more distant at an increasingly rapid rate. And I'll grant that the acceleration, and terminal speed, for such an object would be too fast for a drone. However, it might be dimming because it's dimming, and the rest is an illusion. Distance, and longitudinal speed, are notoriously difficult to eyeball, c.f. cars being t-boned by motorbikes at junctions. This case is a classic example of the illusion; as I said, your senses were accurate, it was only the interpretation that was flawed. Triangulation (or trilateration) is needed to be sure of things positions in space. Corroborative evidence isn't just asked for because it helps weed out hoaxes, it's because it helps make factual conclusions that are impossible without it.

[EDIT: it's the bikes that t-bone the effin SMIDSYers, not the other way round.]

Agreed, it "seemed implausible" to me, which turned out to be correct, but it was just a feeling. No math was involved

In any case, I posted this thread prematurely it seems, since I figured it out an hour or two after posting. My posts just were unapproved so no one could see them yet

 

[FatPhil]

In any case, I posted this thread prematurely it seems, since I figured it out an hour or two after posting. My posts just were unapproved so no one could see them yet

Don't worry, relax. You're not a bot, and you'll not have any delays now the system knows that.

 

[flarkey]

Joe just posted another one his Instagram.


Source: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDvaMNCs9UF/?igsh=MWhwcnZxdmRuOWppbQ==

The source (ig InspectorTheory) says it was a 'UAP in Arizona).

Looks like another rocket burn. At least it's not Starlink.

Here's a similar one over Arizona...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM4KgmJp3SE&ab_channel=rocbolt