NSA spying on everyone.Can you give us one popular conspiracy theory that is real?
I think a big part of the conspiracy eco-system is a constant influx of young people. Most of whom will grow out of it, but then some people stick with it longer than others.
There is a strong pro Nazi element in the many of the conspiracy theorists. Some of the folks that promote them are more obvious.
History shows time and time again how governments use mass media to manipulate public opinion.
Got some facts on that ? Iv never heard of any ?
You've never heard any conspiracy theorists blame the Jews for anything?
The Holocaust was a massive conspiracy. The Nazis knew what they were doing was wrong which is part of the reason they called the mass transits relocations, and all the murders were given fuzzy names like special actions or special treatments. The Nazis even tried to destroy as much evidence as they could. Hitler was even careful enough to never give a written order concerning it except for the Commissar Order. Still we pieced it together and enough people survived to testify.
Indeed - but for a while it WAS believed by the allies to be "just" anti-Nazi propaganda - early reports from 1942 via Switzerland were written off as "just one Jew's opinion", they weer uncorroborated and treated as rumour, etc.
the difference between this and current "conspiracy theories" is, of course, that the evidence very quickly became apparent to all and it stopped being a theory!!
It may be next week before I have the time to dig down and find them. I have some real life things that must be done this week.
I am sure that others can find examples also.
Seems then its not so strong if you got to dig ? you can probabaly find pro nazis in any group such as this teacher in New York http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_...er-teacher-gives-students-pro-nazi-assignment . She however could be a conspiracy person ?There is a strong pro Nazi element in the many of the conspiracy theorists
After the Nazis lost the war of course . If they would have won the war who knows ?
Indeed - not me - I prefer the evidence as it actually exists.
But for a fictional story actually I'd say that if the Nazis won the war then I'd write it up as still being public knowledge and part of the new German "state religion" that Jews were evil and deserved to be exterminated, and everyone agreed......or ended up in the sole remaining camp alongside the few survivors who were the dwindling population of German Jewish WWW1 veterans....
The problem Hot Rod is that some people DO need to be told/proven that it did happen. Some are that offensively obtuse or just have their own pro Nazi or pro German or anti semitic biases.
Gulf of Tonkinfonestar, rather than making sweeping claims, perhaps you could provide some actual examples of what you describe?
Gulf of Tonkin
Operation Gladio
Iran/Contra scandal, CIA flooding cities with drugs to fund illegal wars
War in Iraq
War on Terror
War on Drugs
Operation Northwoods
MK Ultra
Operation Paperclip
Fast and Furious
The thing is, you're generally wrong on most accounts here. Operation Paperclip, MK Ultra, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran/Contra, Operation Northwoods... all were hidden from the American people, covered up or classified as secret by the authorities involved, for years upon years... 30 or more in some cases. That's 30 years of anyone who claimed American intelligence tried to talk JFK into authorizing terrorist attacks on his own people being labeled a cooky conspiracy theorist. There are very obvious attempts to hide their existence from the public, such as by destroying all/most records of the events.The key difference between these events and mainstream conspiracy theories(such as 9/11 truth and those cultivated by InfoWars et. al.) is that they are both publicly acknowledged and there is a wealth of information available on them. There is no attempt to hide their existence from the public(that I can perceive at least), there is no argument as to whether they are conspiracies or if they were borne out of malicious or benign intent(a mixture of both in this list).
Woof. Bored, jobless fame-hunters, ignorant and hateful profiteers. Users all, doubtless.In my humble opinion some of the things that keep conspiracy theories alive are:
Over active imagination
Joblessness
Boredom
Fame-seeking
Genuine hatred [of a particular subgroup or people eg Jews, Government, Corporates etc]
Ignorance
Money - some manage to make a living off of it (LOL).
And a host of other reasons.
But then it is spread like wildfire by ignorance and unbelievable readiness by some to spread bunk without first questioning, evaluating and analysing it.
It is true some conspiracy theories are true but how many are there? The overwhelming majority are shocking work of clearly over-active imagination and some twisted sense of logic (if there is any logic to it at all). In any case, until there is proof, it is nothing more than a hypothesis or a supposition.
Woof. Bored, jobless fame-hunters, ignorant and hateful profiteers. Users all, doubtless.![]()
The thing is, you're generally wrong on most accounts here. Operation Paperclip, MK Ultra, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran/Contra, Operation Northwoods... all were hidden from the American people, covered up or classified as secret by the authorities involved, for years upon years... 30 or more in some cases. That's 30 years of anyone who claimed American intelligence tried to talk JFK into authorizing terrorist attacks on his own people being labeled a cooky conspiracy theorist. There are very obvious attempts to hide their existence from the public, such as by destroying all/most records of the events.
Woof. Bored, jobless fame-hunters, ignorant and hateful profiteers. Users all, doubtless.![]()