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Fetch
New Member
Hello, everyone. I'll go by Fetch. As you can see, I'm indeed quite fetching. But that's just a byproduct of my whole raison d'être, being an omen to silly stuff like superstition.
I learned of this site today via a Popular Mechanics article on UAP debunking, and was only more pleased to see a number of other topics I'd like to educate myself on further.
I genuinely love friendly, healthy and stimulating discussion, especially with people who will never know how truly abnormal-looking I am IRL. There might be extraterrestrials, and a great part of me'd be kinda stoked. But I've seen exactly zero in the face of many real relationships being damaged over things as absurd as astrology.
Admittedly, this is all so classically 'Gemini' of me. So there's that.
I learned of this site today via a Popular Mechanics article on UAP debunking, and was only more pleased to see a number of other topics I'd like to educate myself on further.
I genuinely love friendly, healthy and stimulating discussion, especially with people who will never know how truly abnormal-looking I am IRL. There might be extraterrestrials, and a great part of me'd be kinda stoked. But I've seen exactly zero in the face of many real relationships being damaged over things as absurd as astrology.
Admittedly, this is all so classically 'Gemini' of me. So there's that.
michellew
New Member
Hello,
My name is Michelle. I joined because I want to do my part to debunk false information. I like that the focus here is on debunking the information in a kind and respectful way with facts is the only effective way to change peoples minds about false beliefs. I do have past experience working as a fact checker but always looking for new ways to learn how to fight disinformation.
My name is Michelle. I joined because I want to do my part to debunk false information. I like that the focus here is on debunking the information in a kind and respectful way with facts is the only effective way to change peoples minds about false beliefs. I do have past experience working as a fact checker but always looking for new ways to learn how to fight disinformation.
CasualDebunk
New Member
Long time lurker who was prompted to move on from /r/UFOs by the moderation team.
I am particularly interested in the UFO Influencer phenomenon, as it highlights how social media platforms can amplify and shape public perceptions of so called unexplained phenomena, blending entertainment with belief.
I am particularly interested in the UFO Influencer phenomenon, as it highlights how social media platforms can amplify and shape public perceptions of so called unexplained phenomena, blending entertainment with belief.
NorCal Dave
Senior Member.
That's a good way of putting it.
Hi everyone!
I have been following your analysis on this forum and Mick West's on YouTube for a few years now.
I'm not a particularly skilled person, but I'm a Spanish astrophysicist currently working at the University of Vienna in regards to the Milky Way structure. I'm very interested in UFO claims and the approach to review them skeptically.
See you around!
I have been following your analysis on this forum and Mick West's on YouTube for a few years now.
I'm not a particularly skilled person, but I'm a Spanish astrophysicist currently working at the University of Vienna in regards to the Milky Way structure. I'm very interested in UFO claims and the approach to review them skeptically.
See you around!
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Hi all first time poster and new to metabunk. I love investigating UFOs and other mysteries and conspiracy theories. I really enjoy Micks rational approach to analysis.
My reason for joining today has to do with the 2019 Drone swarms around Navy Ships. I learnt today that a Chinese Cargo ship called the bass strait was in the vicinity and highly suspicious if you ask me.
I was wondering if anyone has a paid membership to the AIS data through maritime apps ? I'd love to get the gps track of the ship at that time.
Thanking You
My reason for joining today has to do with the 2019 Drone swarms around Navy Ships. I learnt today that a Chinese Cargo ship called the bass strait was in the vicinity and highly suspicious if you ask me.
I was wondering if anyone has a paid membership to the AIS data through maritime apps ? I'd love to get the gps track of the ship at that time.
Thanking You
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Mendel
Senior Member.
Hi @FiShaRoo, welcome to Metabunk!
The best thread to ask your question is https://www.metabunk.org/threads/uss-kidd-and-other-ships-drones-encounter-2019.11681/ . Note that AIS tracking uses land-based receivers, so a track for a ship out at sea may not be available; and AIS transmitters can also be turned off.
Giorgio
New Member
Hi, I'm Giorgio. I'm writing from Italy. I'm a pensioner. I like reading physics books and I'm sensitive to living in balance with the nature of the planet. I'm happy to have met you. I'm very concerned about the fake-news, disinformation, conspiracy theories and climate change denial that are circulating today. I would like to help my partner, whom I love very much, get out of this bubble-filter or rabbit hole and I know that with your help I can try. Thank you for being there.
Richard C
New Member
Hi everyone.
Many years ago I used to be a hardcore UFO 'believer' I guess - I ended up on quite the conspiracy theory trail after that, and eventually came to my senses.
Now I'm somewhat more rational, I try to look at other possibilities in UFO cases especially (and sometimes the paranormal/ghost stuff too) and take the more measured approach. An interest in film and photography means I can often understand some processes that have gone on to make sense of the claims I see people have. I've done both amateur and professional photography, along with experience using digital and video cameras for many years now.
Glad to have found this place, I've been lurking a long time looking into old UFO cases with a more critical eye and seeing what and how people are discussing them. It's been so gratifying I decided to join to contribute my thoughts and analyses on them as well.
Many years ago I used to be a hardcore UFO 'believer' I guess - I ended up on quite the conspiracy theory trail after that, and eventually came to my senses.
Now I'm somewhat more rational, I try to look at other possibilities in UFO cases especially (and sometimes the paranormal/ghost stuff too) and take the more measured approach. An interest in film and photography means I can often understand some processes that have gone on to make sense of the claims I see people have. I've done both amateur and professional photography, along with experience using digital and video cameras for many years now.
Glad to have found this place, I've been lurking a long time looking into old UFO cases with a more critical eye and seeing what and how people are discussing them. It's been so gratifying I decided to join to contribute my thoughts and analyses on them as well.
trevcharm
New Member
hi all!
so my journey to get here was:
* being a bit shocked at what seemed like military ufo disclosure, with the 2017 articles and videos, assuming it was all as it appeared and as reported.
* having it on my backburner for a while, and watching what might unfold over the next few years.
* then finally watching the unidentified tv show recently, series 1, and thinking if this is all or even mostly/somewhat accurate it's pretty mind blowing!
* so i thought "why is this not bigger news? who are the disbelievers and what are they thinking about all this?"
* that led me to the new york post basement office videos
* and then searching about inconsistencies about aawsap / aatip / elizondo's exact role, that led me here.
* i then saw mick's gimble debunk video, which was fantastic.
* i then realised this forum was his, so i explored here a bit more.
and today i signed up
glad to see a place like this exists in today's day and age of fake news and overall poor scientific literacy from the general public and the mainstream media. wish this site was more well known, you are all doing a great job!
so my journey to get here was:
* being a bit shocked at what seemed like military ufo disclosure, with the 2017 articles and videos, assuming it was all as it appeared and as reported.
* having it on my backburner for a while, and watching what might unfold over the next few years.
* then finally watching the unidentified tv show recently, series 1, and thinking if this is all or even mostly/somewhat accurate it's pretty mind blowing!
* so i thought "why is this not bigger news? who are the disbelievers and what are they thinking about all this?"
* that led me to the new york post basement office videos
* and then searching about inconsistencies about aawsap / aatip / elizondo's exact role, that led me here.
* i then saw mick's gimble debunk video, which was fantastic.
* i then realised this forum was his, so i explored here a bit more.
and today i signed up
glad to see a place like this exists in today's day and age of fake news and overall poor scientific literacy from the general public and the mainstream media. wish this site was more well known, you are all doing a great job!
elvenwear
Active Member
I had a similar experience with the 2017 disclosure. I saw essentially uncritical news stories, wondered if there might be something to this and found a youtube video which referenced Mick's gimbal video.hi all!
so my journey to get here was:
* being a bit shocked at what seemed like military ufo disclosure, with the 2017 articles and videos, assuming it was all as it appeared and as reported.
* having it on my backburner for a while, and watching what might unfold over the next few years.
* then finally watching the unidentified tv show recently, series 1, and thinking if this is all or even mostly/somewhat accurate it's pretty mind blowing!
* so i thought "why is this not bigger news? who are the disbelievers and what are they thinking about all this?"
* that led me to the new york post basement office videos
* and then searching about inconsistencies about aawsap / aatip / elizondo's exact role, that led me here.
* i then saw mick's gimble debunk video, which was fantastic.
* i then realised this forum was his, so i explored here a bit more.
and today i signed up
glad to see a place like this exists in today's day and age of fake news and overall poor scientific literacy from the general public and the mainstream media. wish this site was more well known, you are all doing a great job!
I am a stargazer, and I already knew before seeing the gimbal video that any optical mount that has two degrees of freedom will always have a small spot on the sky where it struggles to track because of the gimbal effect. As soon as Mick mentioned the words 'gimbal rotation,' I understood even before he'd started the detailed explanation.
DevOpsDUck
New Member
Hi everyone, my name's Davey. I found Metabunk while trying to find unbiased analysis for large datasets. It took me a long time to learn how to be proactive instead of reactive. In doing so, I found I am always willing to hear both sides of any claim. I refuse to engage in ad hominem arguments because they truly accomplish nothing and result in uncovering no answers.
HealthyHouse
New Member
I am floored! I just read thru dozens of brilliant and funny comments from brilliant and thoughtful ppl on the Elizondo "UFO" hoax book.
Found Metabunk looking for reviews of that book - "review" not promo. And serendipity gave me this! Love it...
Looks like i might need some account cleaning up to get my name/member icon in order...
I look fwd to enjoying this place!
Found Metabunk looking for reviews of that book - "review" not promo. And serendipity gave me this! Love it...
Looks like i might need some account cleaning up to get my name/member icon in order...
I look fwd to enjoying this place!
Mendel
Senior Member.
We don't have a lot of material on this; https://www.metabunk.org/forums/ETRH/ is probably your best bet.
owntheissue
New Member
Hi everyone....been investigating so called "Black Projects" since the 80's.
As a consequence- developed an interest in lots of Aerospace related "extraordinary claims" however am so far broadly unimpressed with the evidence presented.
Appreciated this forums rational analysis on the recent "NHI with zero evidence" threat proposition- but I have my own mystery "aerial experience" that I'd like similar treatment on.
Have 3 independently recorded audio instances of the event (which I can share) that exactly matches my own experience but could do with some pointers on how to rationally analyse.
As a consequence- developed an interest in lots of Aerospace related "extraordinary claims" however am so far broadly unimpressed with the evidence presented.
Appreciated this forums rational analysis on the recent "NHI with zero evidence" threat proposition- but I have my own mystery "aerial experience" that I'd like similar treatment on.
Have 3 independently recorded audio instances of the event (which I can share) that exactly matches my own experience but could do with some pointers on how to rationally analyse.
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Thank you for the link. I'll check it out. I also just finished listening to Escaping the Rabbit Hole, which has a lot of good information too.
ItIsABalloon
New Member
I'm here because some people i know wanna debunk some of the droves of UFO footage
BoulderRiver
New Member
Thanks for having me!
Looking forward to add to the debates, especially regarding the Varginha UFO Case.
Looking forward to add to the debates, especially regarding the Varginha UFO Case.
LennyHipp
New Member
hey guys. Living in northeast USA. Been a skeptic for 30 years or so, and I became active correcting CTers who post nonsense ever since I wrote to James Randi asking him about a video I saw of a QiGong demonstration, and he actually sent me a CD with a few videos of him on a TV show in the South Korea of him debunking the exact same techniques as in the video I asked about. I followed Randi and the JREF forums back in the day, he used to live here in NJ the next town over from me and i saw him at a gas station once, his car had the license plate AMAZIN or something like that. Anyway, I have been reading here a while and enjoying Mick's videos on youtube and thought i would join. Is there anyone here that can point me to a thread that I am sure has been covered here before but i Just cannot find it. I've been having a discussion with someone who says the planes should have crumpled against the WTC towers and fell to the ground. "there's no way thin aluminum with rounded edges can cut through 14 inches of solid steel!" I tried talking to him rationally by explaining mass matters. "100,000 lb plane traveling at 500mph is 4.7B Joules of kinetic energy even without the jet fuel. A stick of dynamite is about 1,000,000 joules so the plane hitting the WTC was like 4700 sticks of dynamite PLUS the fuel!" he was having none of it. He compared it to a water balloon thrown at a chain link fence. *sigh* He also pointed me to a video of a bullet not penetrating a relatively thin piece of steel and not penetrating it, and wouldn't listen to me explain how a bullet has a trillion times less mass than the plane... Surely there is a thread here discussing how the plane was able to cut through the steel beams? Anyway, keep up the great work here. I even enjoy some of the CTers here when they at least attempt to provide evidence. great stuff
Mendel
Senior Member.
Mendel
Senior Member.
Several, in fact.
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/how-could-the-planes-wings-penetrate-the-wtc.3326/post-216889 and https://www.metabunk.org/threads/how-could-the-planes-wings-penetrate-the-wtc.3326/post-259666
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/wtc-collapse-simulation-using-unity-besiege.12111/post-260450
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/aircraft-impact-design-for-twin-towers.11301/
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/9-...a-progressive-collapse.364/page-16#post-10123
https://www.metabunk.org/files/WTC-1_EP.pdf
The short answer is that there were tons of fuel in the wings, moving at high speed.
If you'd like to discuss this further, I suggest you either piggyback on the existing discussion ("How could the plane's wings..."), or start a new discussion of your own.
LennyHipp
New Member
thanks! lots to read!
THPS2BestOne
New Member
Hello everyone. I am here because I am a big fan of Mick's work. I am still a huge fan, and currently follow him, because unlike what most people assume, he is a good humble person, although I had a hiccup that eventually led me here. A few months ago, I temporarily blocked Mick on Twitter, but I saw his attitude change and his post quality improved. The reason at the time was, many of his social media posts were more directed at individuals, and I am only a fan of addressing data, not people. Mick tightened up his engagement quality, so I refollowed, and I am a fan for life now, because Mick improves himself. That is one of the most rare traits you can find in any internet persona. This man is skeptic gold. Love you Mick. Keep it up buddy!
Jack Mallory
New Member
Greetings,
I'm mostly familiar with Mick's work through Twitter. I've always been fond of his non-hyperbolic and sane approach to the topics at hand. Only explored this site for the first time yesterday. It reminds me of the forums of old where people actually communicate in meaningful ways, and there's still respect for the written word. Hope to contribute in the same vein.
Cheers
I'm mostly familiar with Mick's work through Twitter. I've always been fond of his non-hyperbolic and sane approach to the topics at hand. Only explored this site for the first time yesterday. It reminds me of the forums of old where people actually communicate in meaningful ways, and there's still respect for the written word. Hope to contribute in the same vein.
Cheers
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