"Waves in the sky" in Ukraine and Chechnya?

[Trailblazer]

These videos have been shared by a chemtrail account, claiming that they show "electromagnetic waves for weather control":


Source: https://x.com/GokMedresesiiii/status/1890975887207616878



Source: https://x.com/GokMedresesiiii/status/1891166264816504851


The second video comes from an account called Типичный Донецк (Typical Donetsk) and was posted in August 2022:


Source: https://x.com/typicaldonetsk/status/1563533391311425538


along with the description More videos of strange waves in the sky (It is assumed that from the electronic warfare system "Krasukha")


Krasukha appears to be a mobile electronic warfare system

https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/krasukha-russia-interference/

The "Krasukha-2" system is used to block any attempts at detection by airborne assets or radar, while "Krasukha-4" was developed to "interfere" with guided missiles, radio frequencies, and data links.

Meanwhile, "Moscow-1" is designed to detect and analyze threats across the entire radio frequency spectrum. When all variants of the "Krasukha" system are used in conjunction, they are capable of protecting Russian assets from enemy observation and attacks from hundreds of kilometers away.

So, nothing to do with weather modification, but rather jamming communications.

Is there any mechanism by which such devices could produce the effects in the video, of a slow-moving visible ripple over clouds? I'm sceptical.

 

[FatPhil]

These videos have been shared by a chemtrail account, claiming that they show "electromagnetic waves for weather control":
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Is there any mechanism by which such devices could produce the effects in the video, of a slow-moving visible ripple over clouds? I'm sceptical.

I certainly can't explain the music. Could it be manually edited in? That would require access to a computer from the last couple of decades, do they have those in eastern Europe?

 

[Scaramanga]

There is a much simpler explanation than all the 'electromagnetic waves' stuff. Shock waves from explosions....especially as the events seem to be occurring over war zones. I also would not rule out CG, though.

 

[Trailblazer]

There is a much simpler explanation than all the 'electromagnetic waves' stuff. Shock waves from explosions....especially as the events seem to be occurring over war zones. I also would not rule out CG, though.

Yes, I thought they looked like shock waves although they seem strangely slow moving.

 

[Scaramanga]

Yes, I thought they looked like shock waves although they seem strangely slow moving.

They are probably quite high up. I really don't know how far explosion shock waves travel in terms of vertical height, horizontal distance. The small explosions created by people like the Slow Mo guys ( excellent Youtube channel ) probably only travel a few hundred feet. It would require something on the scale of Mythbusters blowing up a cement truck to create anything that would reach up a mile or more. A big rocket blast is probably comparable. I've seen volcano blasts where the shock wave travels several miles.

I think the clue really is in the fact that the videos come mainly from Ukraine.

 

[jarlrmai]

Most explosion shockwaves I've seen consisted of one wave not repeated closely packed things like this.

 

[Ann K]

I really don't know how far explosion shock waves travel in terms of vertical height, horizontal distance.

As an extreme upper limit, at least in historic terms, the Hunga-Tonga volcano explosion is reported to have reached 17 to 20 km in height, and was powerful enough to have caused tsunami waves in both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans as the pressure waves went around the globe.

When Hunga Tonga-Hunga Ha'apai, a mostly submerged volcanic cauldron in the South Pacific Ocean, exploded on 15 January, it unleashed a blast perhaps as powerful as the world's biggest nuclear bomb, and drove tsunami waves that crashed into Pacific shorelines. But 3 hours or so before their arrival in Japan, researchers detected the waves of another small tsunami. Even stranger, tiny tsunami waves just 10 centimeters high were detected around the same time in the Caribbean Sea, which is in an entirely different ocean basin. What was going on?

Researchers say there is only one reasonable explanation: The explosion's staggeringly powerful shock wave, screaming around the world close to the speed of sound, drove tsunamis of its own in both the Pacific and Atlantic oceans. It's the first time a volcanic shock wave has been seen creating its own tsunamis, says Greg Dusek, a physical oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration who documented the phenomenon using a combination of tide and pressure gauges around the world.

https://www.science.org/content/article/tonga-shock-wave-created-tsunamis-two-different-oceans

The Kingdom of Tonga, located in the South Pacific, experienced one of the biggest eruptions in recorded history in 2022. The submarine volcano first began to rumble in December 2021, the eruption started on Jan. 13, 2022 and it reached its steamy climax on Jan. 15, 2022.

Because the volcano is underwater, seawater that came into contact with the erupting magma was instantly superheated. As a result, the blast, which measured a VEI 5.7, injected 50 million tons (45 million metric tons) of water vapor into the atmosphere, or enough to warm the planet for years. The blast extended for 162 miles (260 kilometers) and a pillar of ash, steam and gas stretched 12 miles (20 km) into the air, the tallest in recorded history, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

https://www.livescience.com/planet-...iggest-volcanic-eruptions-in-recorded-history

 

[JMartJr]

Looking at the first video, I'm made skeptical by how they crash-zoom, sort of, into a cloud where nothing is happening, just in time to be there when the "ripple" enters the frame.

 

[Zang]

Most explosion shockwaves I've seen consisted of one wave not repeated closely packed things like this.

Cluster munitions perhaps? It might explain how close the waves are to each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_cluster_munitions_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
(most instances mentioned in year 2022)

 

[Dave51c]

In the first video, those wavefronts are (roughly) around 0.5-0.25Hz. That is ULF (Ultra Low Frequency) stuff - every 2-4 seconds. Not saying it's an external EM wave btw. The lighting transition from bright(ish) white (hard edges) to grey (soft edges) as they travel up or towards the camera is interesting. I can't see any evidence of them once they are level with the top of the cloud formation in the background (or are they part of the same formation).

 

[NorCal Dave]

The music alone in the longer one makes it a bit suspect. Besides CGI, is it possible this is just something on some glass or plastic in front of the lens. The remind me of scan lines when one tries to film a screen.

 

[MonkeeSage]

Closest thing I can find is shock waves created by the SDO mission Atlas V launch in 2010. But in that instance they appear to form and dissipate more quickly (the gif below is sped up but the video clip from the article is real time and the ripples appear and disappear in ~2-3 seconds total).

Atmospheric optics expert Les Cowley said, 'When the rocket penetrated the cirrus, shock waves rippled through the cloud and destroyed the alignment of the ice crystals.'

By doing so, it created a new form of ice halo, Cowley says.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsrXDBOnUUU

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/11/nasa-explains-weird-ripples-appear-sky-not-dome-7703018/

 

[RobertBillyBob]

Electromagnetic waves are not visible, except in a narrow range (~400 to 800nm) where they are called "visible light". The weather control / electronic warfare hypothesis is bogus.

That could look like a shockwave due to an explosion but shockwaves propagate in spheres centered on the explosion. Here the wave front seems nearly linear, which means the center of the sphere in really far away. Energy dissipation in a sphere shaped phenomena is quadratic, a shockwave powerful enough to be visible this far from the center would have been really (really!) powerful.

Add to that the "why were they filming?" zoom and the Stargate SG1 sounds effects of the first video and CGI is a really convincing hypothesis.