Virginia Shooting Hoax Claims - Can People Run After Being Shot [Yes]

trevor

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As an investigative journalist, it was a sad day to see fellow journalists get gunned down on national television. I knew instantly that this was going to be claimed as a "hoax", mainly due to how the woman reacted after being shot at (we aren't sure which percise shots actually hit her yet). The claim on this that many people are making, is that people "Drop" when they are shot, and are not able to run. Here's what i think. I think people have been playing too much Call of Duty, and expect people to react a certain way, after they have been shot. Here's a few examples of people who are fully capable of running at full speed, after being shot at point blank (in the stomach too)

Warning: no blood or brains, but the following videos may be unsettling


Very impressive running, right? Another example i like to use is the Walter Scott death. He was able to get atleast a solid 10 to 15 steps while running with possibly 3 bullets in the back before he finally fell.


Now then, as everyone here officially knows, running after you have been shot is fully believable. I'm sure there will be more "Evidence" in the future (Really within the next 2 days mainly targetting conflicting news reporting) that is going to appear.

[ADMIN UPDATE] This thread is largely discussing the above question. A more detailed debunking of a multitude of similar questions can be found at:
http://wideshut.co.uk/wdbj-virginia-shooting-hoax-theories-debunked/

WideShut is an "alternative" media site, which does seem to entertain some conspiracy theories. But a more sensible site than, say, Infowars.
 
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Pete Tar

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To make your post more informative, can you post an example of the claims to which you're responding, and perhaps a brief summary of the event itself?
 

Pete Tar

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An unfortunate sign of the times perhaps? But I think it's based on things already being said, if I read the OP correctly.
 

Whitebeard

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Am I the only one who finds this kind of pre-emptive debunking of a tragedy a little.. off?
Pre-emptive? found these already

there are loads of them out there.

Checklist of claims... crisis actors, para-military uniforms, lack of blood, gun wrong, too many shots fired, signs video was edited... all the same old same old CT mantra's
 
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Qualiall

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Yep they are trying to pull the ol. Twitter time trick again. I'm not sure how I can send a picture through my phone on here (it says bad file extension when I try)...but the claim is...shooting happened at 6:45, but her boyfriend tweeted about it at around 6:30am
 

Mick West

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Here's part of a (long) comment thread on a (Warning: video shows the shooting) YouTube video. Generally not a place for reasoned discussion anyway, but it shows that people are making these claims:



Waarheid Openbaring 7 hours ago
Alison Parker looks like Robbie Parker from the Sandy Hook Hoax
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Davion Latson 17 hours ago
look one her legs,it's blood packs strapped to her legs lol!!
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studentinlearning 2 hours ago
That is weird-there is no blood splattering all over the place. That bullet should have exploded in her body, going out with blood and stuff everywhere with it being so close. Wow, that does look fake!
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martin chatterton 1 hour ago
+studentinlearning stop watching the hollywood movies
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shamanahaboolist 15 hours ago
total total fake. absolutely no ballistic shock goes through her body at ALL.
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shamanahaboolist 1 hour ago
+Dj TeeOh Not able to access that video.
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Steve Protoss 5 minutes ago
I agree. At that range, there would have been signs of a projectile hitting her body. And she would have been knocked backwards. Not off her feet but definitely would t have been able to stand her ground before turning and running.
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Robert Blackburn 18 hours ago
It doesn't look real but where do all the people in these supposed false flags that are supposed to be dead go?
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dannyrybeck 2 hours ago
I'll have another look at it and see if I can catch it, thanks
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LivelysReport 1 hour ago
+Robert Blackburn I would say they go as so many others do like in the witness protection program has supplied for many people... you simply pay these people a great deal of money, they do their act and are removed and sent elsewhere in their paid hide the victim program and give them new identities.. and are probably sent out of this country where they are kept low for a long time..
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Tomas Westerlund 20 hours ago
That's either a Glock or a 1911. I own a Glock 17. At that range, she'd get a blowback at least few feet. I'm telling you, something is bullshit here.
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Tomas Westerlund 1 hour ago
+Dj TeeOh Watch the video again closely. What's that black ring around the reporter's left leg? You'll notice it just when the gunman points the Glock at her.
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Jonathan Rink 17 hours ago
No shell ejected
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dannyrybeck 14 hours ago
I am a veteran and have seen people shot with both 9mm and .45 cal bullets at close range, and there's no way this is real, it's fake as hell, everyone knew more false flags were coming, Obama will not stop trying to get Americans guns. The shooter was just another CIA Mkultra mind control robot. This government will stop at nothing to make us all impotent sheep.
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Justyn's Games 2 hours ago (edited)
+Dj TeeOh .......Interesting point. Upon watching the video the first time, I wondered to myself " How did no one notice him walk up, and pull out a gun ". Especially now that you point out that there was beef between them. If I'm beefing with someone there is no way in hell that they can stand 10 feet away from me right in the corner of my eye in an open space and I not notice them.....No bodily shock / nor reaction to bullet impact to the woman after being shot 3 times, at point blank range.....And no footage of the victims laying on the ground ????
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Jeff from Jersey 1 hour ago (edited)
+dannyrybeck Do you notice how her SHOULDERS GO UP.. as in " oh my im scared".. which would be more like Bad ACTING.. not the result of taking an IMPACT.. Doesnt the body do more of a SHAKE on impact ? from what I have been told by guys like you who have seen action .. sort of like when you wake up and startle yourself.. There is no TIME to shrug your shoulders when you are being hit with Hollow Points.. I Agree, FIRST HIT she would have gone DOWN or thrown back or almost out of her shoes..But no way she could turn around and RUN. Here is another thing.. If the Shooter took all the trouble to make a VIDEO of the Shooting, why not video her lying in a pool of BLOOD ?... He had enough time to post the Videos. so its not like that part was CUT out.. He was trying to make some kind of Sick Point.. why didnt he finish it and make the point.. its like he did not want to OFFEND anyone ? by showing the bodies... Bullshit..
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Mike Bizy 9 hours ago
Maybe the firsts bullets didn't hit her and maybe only after she ran that he hit the girl
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Colin Waugh 19 hours ago
has anyone else noticed that the hand holding the gun is white?
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Gabriel Spark 2 hours ago
+Dj TeeOh video deleted...of course
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Meman Hauman 18 hours ago
i saw people being shot in belfast northern ireland back in the early 90's and it looked nothing like this.This is fake ass shit and why is his arm white? was he not supposed to be black?
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Ijustloveguitars 4 hours ago
+John Salisbury Oh and this one, he literally picks up his (gun I think) gets shot and keeps running People are so stupid, apparently not you which is good lol
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Mario Singh 3 hours ago
+John Salisbury faked too
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#Peace, Love, Positive Vibrations 11 hours ago
Great video~ More people need to awaken to these fake events~ Thank you for sharing.
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Bill the Butcher 7 hours ago
+#Peace, Love, Positive Vibrations But why WOULD they fake them? It would be easier to just really shoot someone. Unless they want to fuel the conspiracy fire to further make refutation of their false flags, like 911, appear ridiculous?...
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SUPER NATURAL 16 hours ago
Thank you for this video. I can't believe how many people still believe it. I knew from the start the whole thing was a false flag.
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flex gg 16 hours ago
they do look like blanks cause they should have drop her after the 3 shot and the cameraman does nothing didn't even. run or fight fake
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Douglass Davis 4 hours ago
+flex gg U trust the lamestream media?
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33kingofkings 11 hours ago
to push the antigun law this shit is fake
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Bill the Butcher 7 hours ago
+33kingofkings Anti-gun AND White racism in one!
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Tony Montana 20 hours ago
definitely strange. she took like 3-4 shots and still standing on her feet?
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Justyn's Games 2 hours ago
+Tony Montana ....also why do the first 8 shots sound like they are fired in the open...and the last 4 or 5 shots ( not filmed ) have a hollowed metal can sound. They sound completely different from the first 8......man this is incident screams bullshit.
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kathy mckinny 3 hours ago
the hand shooting the gun is WHITE!! The man the THINK did it is WHITE!! WHAT THE F@CK????
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GabrielTheGuitarist 3 hours ago
If you can't download it and go frame by frame, slow it down .5 or .25 speed. You can clearly see the first 2 shots are misses. One towards the support for the awning, and the 2nd right between the shoulder and her hand. Also when it is zoomed in on the 2nd shot, go 2 frames forward and you can see what looks to be the edge to a casing being ejected.
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Brain Rush 1 hour ago
take down Virginia's flag... problem solved
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hlyautey 2 hours ago
If this is fake wouldn't the shooter be from Duck Dynasty?
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Bryan Stephens 6 minutes ago
Not a single drop of blood trail on the ground. No impact evident on her body, clothes weren't even disturbed. Thank God this is fake as hell. Yet another line item on Obamas huge list of failures. Obama wants a race war. I'm convinced of it now, all part of his fundamental transformation of America.
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May Maked 15 hours ago
You guys are idiots. 3 deployments Iraq and Afghanistan. It depends on shot placement. She was shot in the side and looks like she absorbed several rounds in the arms and shoulders. She made every effort to escape while her body allowed. Not to mention this dude was probably shooting fmj rounds and they were traveling into her clean. HP rounds maybe a different reaction. He is shooting one handed because he filmed it on his cell phone so we would do what we are doing right now. This woman and her cameraman are dead good sirs and mams. 11B30
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Keksi 6 hours ago
+The Tram Ah the reference to 9-23 or September 23rd.
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May Maked 6 hours ago
+MrTaser99 not because "i went to Iraq" because I've shot people.
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SuperMguthrie 9 hours ago
Where are the shells...shouldn't we be able to see the shells ejected out the top...I believe so..that's crazy
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Bill the Butcher 7 hours ago
+SuperMguthrie No shells. No sounds of shells hitting the floor. No ballistic shock. No blood splatter. She takes 3-4 shots and still is running screaming in fear. I've seen massive blokes hit the deck after taking less at that range.
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Joshua Steensland 13 hours ago
she reacts to the first shot by only shrugging her shoulders. she is still looking at her cue card(@0:01sec)she only turns her body when the second shot happens. either the first shot missed or its fake cause her hands and body would have moved toward the direction of her supposed injury..ie her stomach/torso area...at the one second mark, directly after the first shot she reacts with a shrug like the sound of the gun is what startled her not a massive trauma injury to her body. smells fishy,
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Bill the Butcher 1 hour ago
+Joshua Steensland I've been studying this quite closely, even produced a video on it () but I'm starting to disbelieve all the hoax claims so far. I think he missed the first few shots, and the bullets just went into the distance, not into the immediate woodwork. I think she also saw him before he pulled the gun, and that's why she never reacted to him the whole time. She knew he was there, just didn't see the weapon.
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Rikaya Partlow 9 hours ago
EVEN BEFORE SEEING THE VIDEO, THE STORY DIDN'T SIT RIGHT WITH ME. A BLACK MAN KILLS TWO WHITE PEOPLE ON LIVE TV??? NAH..... WE AIN'T CRAZY. THAT'S WHITE BOY SHIT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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Fools Gold 8 hours ago
+Rikaya Partlow dude its all bs. youtube 'we need to talk about sandy hook'. that will blow your mind
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TheMostAwesomeMan242 10 hours ago
also the alleged shooter is black yet we see the hand of a white man?
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Anonymous Atheist 3 hours ago
+TheMostAwesomeMan242 He was a very light skinned black man. Look at his pictures. In that lighting, that could well be (and is) his hand.
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ProjectAKO17 15 hours ago
Uhmm, why didn't she drop and hit the floor when shot? What kind of bullets allow you to run? Also, where is the blood? Uhmm this is terrible, but seems a bit suspect....that is all I am saying :(
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Qronos16 1 hour ago
Looking at the video. This is clearly a False Flag Event.
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outlawbenning 4 hours ago
She would have been on the ground from the very first shot, or second or third... blanks did their job...
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TheFsxChannel201 2 hours ago
u couldnt fine my comment to delete it sorry this is supposed to be the real thing and is fake AF
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Shawn Mackey 36 minutes ago
It's Real. It was on the fucking news channel. I've fucking seen it.
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Zeal In Christ 9 hours ago
Does no one even know what a false flag is anymore? Seems that anything is dubbed a false flag now.
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Bill the Butcher 6 hours ago (edited)
+Zeal In Christ An event, real or staged, conducted intentionally by covert forces blamed on another party to bring about the desired conditions/reaction necessary to pursue an agenda. This video mightn't be a false flag, it might be, but is was certainly staged. Staged shooting on live news, in a time of gun law reforms, and by an "unhappy" Black man in times of "White racism". Seems pretty reasonable to assume false flag.
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areuter727 17 hours ago
Go tell this woman and man's families/friends that this is a false flag. Go tell them this at their funerals. I dare you....tinfoil piece of garbage that you are.
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Eagles24 16 hours ago
They already been paid off they know already lol
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Janiekay Smaby 15 hours ago
+areuter727 oh oh please take pictures by all means at this funeral are they taking pictures of their dead and post them like other families have to suffer thru. like, hey president kennedy. doubt it, news makes $$$ on these things even though it would be extremely exciting news after this, they take down all postings for all to decide BUT, YES, BUT, we'll have special fundraisers for the families. innocent people sending money to thieves who should pay for their own dead like real people. and real people dont require 500,000 monthly for fake monthly memorial serves like say SANDY HOOK (both FAKE and FAIL)...maybe you should take your tin hat off and check in with the real world who are tired of FAKES and this was noted as an immediate FAIL
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Whatsa Mattayoo 20 hours ago
Exactly right. Couldn't be more clearly fake. I don't know why so many people on even alternative websites are, at least at first, taking it down like it's true. I was at the doctor's office waiting room with my mother, and there was a press conference at about 2:15, and they said it happened at 1:30. Like they had the story pre-made.
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taint spray 19 hours ago
They said the shooter died at 1:30 by a self afflicted gunshot to the head
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LAY LEGEND 1 hour ago
If its fake then how r they all dead
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Jason Montijo 1 hour ago
umm did anyone else notice that its a white dudes hand holding the gun!!!!!!!! (MIND BLOWN)
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cruzalberto209 24 minutes ago
just because it's getting media coverage it's real now I guess lol oh and a manifest that's so long oh wait the he managed to write details of what he did to these people before he died come on man
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Nigaromia 3 hours ago
I saw both videos and I am convinced that this is fake 100 percent. Where's the blood, she runs away after 3 shots were pumped into her. Before that the gunman pulls the gun out for 10 seconds and the reporter looked at him and continued with the interview. If someone was pointing a gun at you, you will see it in the corner of your eye anyway.
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Teresa Gallion 3 hours ago
All you conspiracy theorists are NUTZ.
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SuburbanoidMisfit111 2 hours ago
+Teresa Gallion Oh my.
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ElleyAl 3 hours ago
My thoughts exactly! Also any comments that I have posted on UK daily mail have been blocked saying it was a false flag. The boyfriend and father are on tv spouting anti gun propaganda less than 24 hours after it happened. The boyfriend is spouting off all these twitter messages with emoticons. False Flag indeed. Thank you for making this video!
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Joe Black 11 hours ago
On the vid from the TV you see blood spatter it seems from the fallen camera man, oh hush up retards.
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TryingTo Correct 7 hours ago
+Joe Black Can you give a link for that video and tell at what second the blood can be seen please? well, the blood itself does not necessary prove anything as it could be fake blood... surely they sometimes use fake blood in hoaxes, right? But I would like to see the position where the blood is seen.
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Bill the Butcher 6 hours ago
+TryingTo Correct +Joe Black Right on, you made a claim, show evidence to support please.
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Gameral 1 hour ago
Look at the other videos where the guy stumbles around for 15 seconds before he shoots with the gun pointed. All I can say it thank you Zionists for uniting America against you.
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Eric Blair 1 hour ago
You people who got your ballistics training by watching Kojack while eating Spaghetti O's need to simmer down. Let the people who have actually witnessed a live shooting talk.
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Gary Dill 1 hour ago
And you are idiots! I have shot deer and blown their heats and lungs out with a high powered rifle and they run a hundred yards. A little 9mm is a wimp.
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J Jay 7 minutes ago
I know nothing about firearms, however, it seems unlikely that this woman would not go down with the first shot at such close range. Am I wrong? The whole scene doesn't look right. How did two people not notice one of their former colleagues standing in their immediate space? None of the three alleged victims show any indication of a 4th person in their space during an early morning live interview in a quite place with no one else around. Also, after three shots fired at the reporter, her shirt remains in tact, no holes or ripping of the fabric at all. Very strange.
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cláudio correia 4 hours ago
Obviously fake no way she start running after 3 shoots bitch please im from portugal here on tv this video they dont show too us because is high grafic and they say the reporter go down after the shoots and cant show on tv hajaha i dont saw her fall i saw her running -.-
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Michael Green 2 hours ago
I got hit 7 times with a 40 no way she's stronger than me on impact them slugs was spinning me falling on impact
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TANIMAL 54 16 hours ago
Everyone saying oh fuck you if you thinks its real or fake and im over here going, how did they get the shooters footage? was he wearing a go pro
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Derek smith 15 hours ago
+ibrake4rappers well there you go actually yea a go pro would have been higher resolution
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Derek smith 15 hours ago
+ibrake4rappers also he's holding the gun with one hand so it's likely
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Jesse Duncan 1 hour ago
ask her family if this is fake.. I know her dad, he's a part of the local canoe club. these are real people and a real tragedy. I've watched several videos posted by several sources and I agree, it does look fake.. but after reading what her dad posted on Facebook last night, I have no reason but to believe that her family has lost a very special person to them.. hate to say it but you guys are wrong on this one
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BigCMLove 3 hours ago
Just because we question this video we're called a conspiracy nut? America has become a nation filled with mindless sheep. There cant be a actual discussion without someone's feelings getting hurt over the net. Believe what you will because you're always right no matter what... right?
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Rgr Fee 3 hours ago
this is crazy! wander why they're doing their best to hide the original and making all the media cut the ending out, its absolute Crap! Media is just regurgitated/censored programmed crap the powers that be float to the sheeple to back what ever their agenda is, funny thing alot of even the most stubborn patriots will second look this because this is way to bullshit
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Andrew Sawyer 2 hours ago
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Sports Fan 1 hour ago
He missed on the first two shots morons....and he was holding a cell phone in the other hand. Scary that such feeble minded people like most conspiracy theorists are actually believe the shit they shoveled. The reason you don't see anything is this guy was a terrible shot and had to shoot 15 times to finish the job. Alison Parker is very real and sadly, very dead. IT's scary there are so many teabagging nut jobs with tin foil hats on out there. Don't you think if the government could pull off all these false flags as so many of mentally ill people claim, they would simply just take our guns? Where are all the victims of these numerous false flags. they on an island somewhere drinking mai tai's and counting their money the government aid them? I guess they stage the wakes and funerals too? I suppose family, friends, loved ones, employers are ALL in on these? You can't get people to stay quiet about anything? You don;t think someone of all of the thousands of people that would have to be involved wouldn't step forward to cash in on their story? You people really are scary and it is sad that ANYONE could believe any of your nonsense. Most of you conspiracy theorists fit pretty much the same profile. Probably a high school graduate POSSIBLY some college. Most still live at home with mommy and daddy. You probably watched some video where some mentally ill person points out a few things they claim is fact and ignore everything else that disproves your nonsensical theory. Perhaps you cowards should take a ride down to virginia and attend these poor people's wakes... Nahhh you won;t do that because it proves how wrong and mentally deranged you people really are.
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Michael Carter 3 hours ago
People watch to much movies thinking blood flies all over the place and stuff when you get shot. Most my guns put out a pretty good fireball when they fire just like that one.
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seanz1232010 1 hour ago
you people have lost your minds. many times when a person or animal is shot, the instinctual reactions make it look like they werent hit. when in fact they were. she prob ran 50 yards and bled out. remember, he might not have hit her directly either. those people have families and there will be a viewing. you cant fool 400 friends ans family. cmon
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whoyoukidding1 1 hour ago
Thank God we have all these ballistics experts here to explain how it doesn't look the way it looks in the movies, therefore it must be fake.
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William Steriti 22 minutes ago
after the first shoot it would of knocked her of her feet . no hole no blood your government T work
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mosayo harvey 1 hour ago
have you ever been in a big fight. you dont get knocked down in the 1st hit. i would think it would sort of in the same way. adrenaline can make u feel no pain so dont be so fucking stupid. to think this is a conspiracy theorie
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ntense001 15 hours ago
LMAO at this cameraman still filming the three shots fired right by his ear. Could this possibly be anymore fake. Watch it he doesn't even flinch.
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sprybug 9 hours ago
+Duquette Beats You didn't bother to read my comment obviously, you just comment on the fact you see me here. I'll let my last comment speak for itself. TWO FUCKING Videos man, TWO FUCKING VIDEOS one from the shooter and one from a victim...and you STILL THINK IT'S A HOAX. Talk about mental issues! You think every tragedy is a hoax. What? You don't think bad things ever happen? You think every bad thing that does happen is because the government made it so? God, fucking crazy. Absolutely fucking insane!
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jonathan johnson 16 hours ago
You people are idiots if you think this was fake. This was very much real. The people in this community know these people, that are now dead. This man shot and killed these two. I can't even believe you dumbasses... Anyone that says something about a time stamp on a twitter post, well did you ever think about different time zones you morons! This should be removed. I'm reporting this, families are grieving and you people are calling this fake!? Disgusting!
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Janiekay Smaby 16 hours ago
+jonathan johnson grow up an get it together. obviously not shot in the head and ill bet she will get more security dead in her casket, huh? closed casket with a private service, non, no we'll see this actress again. just because she's just been discovered after two years. who at her work knows...someone does. she sure has plenty of lovers checking in.
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nano. joe. 17 hours ago
Anyone else notice how the mainstream media is doing damage control in regards to the cell phone video from the gunman?? They're trying to get people to NOT watch it and are demonizing those who post it on the Internet.
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SuperGrowPlants 17 hours ago
+nano. joe. where at
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Rick Tufts 3 hours ago
I was thinking the same thing. "How could she be running after all those shots?"
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thoushaltdopeace 14 minutes ago
I don't know,maybe her hands didn't moved to her supposed wounds?
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hindol datta 16 hours ago
Go tell that to her and Mr. Ward's family this is fake. I would really like for you to say that you scumbag.
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Janiekay Smaby 16 hours ago
+hindol datta and who is mister ward...how much insurance was on her? anchors, journalists in such dangerous jobs even employers insure there employees..everybody is getting a piece of this action$$$$$makes the world interesting and stupid. FAKE and FAIL
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Jason Bradley 3 hours ago
They all go to "Little Wadia"
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Philip Lamont 2 hours ago
Fake, Fake, Fake. Can you people not see with your own eyes that not a single bullet leaves the gun or strikes her. Fucking stupid sheeple.
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mike doba 4 hours ago
the American government I quite possibly the worst at carrying out false flag attacks, you've been getting caught for years yet nothing is done......
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William Potter 15 minutes ago
This is kind of disrespectful for the people? Don't you think, yeah it may look fake but you weren't there. It happened!
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Mk McDowell 14 hours ago (edited)
For you all that think it's fake, can't it be verified by the woman being interviewed? She is supposedly at the hospital with gunshot wounds. This does look suspicious to me though...and btw, what does the reporter have strapped to her left leg?
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Stephanie Stolzman 13 hours ago
usually a battery pack for a mic clipped to blouse
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Khris Payne 28 minutes ago
I have friends that knew the people who died. Fuck every single one of you
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JoeStunner 4 hours ago
I see it didn't take long for the loony-tune freaks to crawl out from under their rocks - and yes, they're the same sick fucks who called the Sandy Hook massacre a hoax and believe every word of every homemade "documentary" they see on YouTube. What a shame you dumb cunts don't spend more time gazing into your souls, instead of up your own arses.
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Jandre Kroeze 5 hours ago
You aint got much combat experience huh, might explain why youre such a conspiracy nut, giving the real ones a bad name. Fact, immedietly shot victims can still run and move after being shot due to shock. They do fall and die seconds after.
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CalculusVariations99 9 hours ago
Totally fake. It's impossible to buy a gun and shoot anyone in the USA. Too hard. Can't happen.
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Stuart Wilson 10 hours ago
In fact, this is exactly what it is like when you are shot. The initial impact can cauterize the entry wound and leave just a hole the slice of the slug. It can take several seconds for someone to even realize they have a bullet wound. Speak to victims of gun shots, and most will tell you there is a real delay in knowing they had actually been shot. Sometimes it is just a warm feeling, and the initial entry is not felt.
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The Hominid 7 hours ago
People only fall over when shot, when they realise they've been shot. (according to research) The real question I would ask is "why are her clothes undamaged?" You Americans really can't be trusted with guns though. I'm shocked that it's not more obvious to you guys. The way you cling onto them is like watching a child who won't give up it's favourite toy. "I have the right..." Yeah? You used to have the right to enslave people too but, most of you aren't so stupid as to think that's a good idea. Come on America. Grow up and give up the guns!
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OTM WEB 9 hours ago
everyone on here is a complete idiot and you have no respect for people that have died from this.people like you make me sick to my stomach.i know this was real because me and my friend happened to be there.its ok if you Dont believe me. you think everything is a fake so i guess il be fake also.
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oegromov 7 hours ago
This is staged ... there is no pain-reflex at all at the first 3 hits ....VERY VERY BAD ACTING.!!.
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John Crawley 7 hours ago
you god damm mong. two people are died
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Craig Sharman 9 hours ago
have you no shame? people died and you make light of it
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Greg Grisham 4 hours ago
Something else to note is the hand on the gun looks very white to me.
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TryingTo Correct 8 hours ago
Was good to see the slow motion. thumbs up for that
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iamraz 8 hours ago
There are some dumb ass mother fuckers up in this thread along with the guy who made this video. The guys hand is NOT white. It's clearly brown/darker, but due to the time of day and shade it looks that way. I bet no one in here has ever been shot. Go back to playing WoW you dumb fucks. People get shot all the time in war zones and don't even know they are shot until they see blood! Yes sometimes it happens so quick you don't feel it immediately hence her shrugging off the first one cuz she thought it was just noise at first.
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edwin addis 5 hours ago
Wasnt he black, whys the guys hand white in this video
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Anthony Tirado 8 hours ago
Idk how this could be a hoax when Alison and Adam are dead. And the women being interviewed was sent to the hospital.
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Alexander Shaw 7 hours ago
It's real if u look closely he misses the first shot and he hits the wood fence
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millionmarch 6 hours ago
Anyone and I mean anyone, notice that the shooters hand is white? She was supposed to have been shot by a black man. His hand would not be white. Look at the video.
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Ravtank1 7 hours ago
At that range that stupid shit missed. Just because you're that close doesn't mean you can't miss. He was filming, taking a gun "first shot" selfie. have you ever tried doing that and got perfectly on target with one hand? Please make a video in response. Otherwise, I don't think this is a fake. Besides, he hit her with the second shot in the arm, she clutches it.
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smitty8709 7 hours ago
just because u get shot at close range doesn't mean you drop like a sack of potatoes. also his shitty camera isn't capturing the very fast speed of a ejecting shell.
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Bill the Butcher 7 hours ago
First time I saw this, I didn't know anything of the backstory, it was just a post on LiveLeak I stumbled across. I thought it was a prank video. It is so obvious he's firing blanks. I've been a member of BestGore/LiveLeak etc. for years and years and yeeaaarrrsss. I've seen COUNTLESS shooting videos. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people being shot on video. At point blank range, with that weapon, even a heavy set man would hit the deck after two shots. She scurries off in high heels screaming. Total BS.
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Keith Burke 1 hour ago
RE: VA Reporter who was allegedly shot to death during live interview. How is it that her boy friend tweets the accident out before the event even took place, hence the time stamp of tweet below stamped 6:34 a.m. This supposed incident took place at 6:45 a.m. Also, in 2012 Obama signed Bill stating Propaganda is legal: http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/06/first-time-since-1948-propaganda-is-now-legal-in-the-u-s/ This is pure propaganda to sell Race War and UN Gun Ban. See Twitter Time Stamp Below. https://punditfromanotherplanet.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hurst-tweet.jpg?w=480&h=419
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giovannino settebellezze 1 hour ago
With the stopping power of a cal 9 bullet shot by a Glock auto you might not completely stop a 100 kg man from running, but you'd surely fold the woman chest . Expecially at close range. Judgment: Very bad actress, unbelievable script. Playstation II reloaded. A galactic scam.



GIAN KARLO Go 4 hours ago
I definitely know ( based on video alone) that this is fake. But try searching it on google! Even CNN covers it and a lot more.. @@ I dont know what to think about this whole thing! Is it fake or not? ><
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Project Spacebook 18 minutes ago
fake as fuck
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ceramictiletonight 1 hour ago
I have downloaded both videos to my computer and watched each many times. I don't see how the two women did not see him as close as he came to them before he fired. I also don't see how he missed the reporter unless the gun had blanks in it. The first shot looked as though it would have hit her in the upper chest or neck but instead of dropping where she was she did a fifty yard dash. Unless he ran her down and shot her at an even closer range he did not hit her. Don't believe me just look at the shooters video when he backed away from the women before he fired, the reporter looked like she had olive oil's legs. There is no way she would have stood up much less run after being shot from 10 feet with a glock 9, or 40 or 45 caliber, that is your choices. 2 great reads: http://www.fromthetrenchesworl... http://www.fromthetrenchesworl...
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Daniel Morris 2 hours ago
If this is part of a plot for Obama to take your guns away... What will be the result? Something like Europe? It's not like the public stands a chance in a stand off against the military. They have armour btw as well
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Duquette Beats 9 hours ago
gotta love all the govt trolls trying to convince people other wise.who in there right mind would defend anything the govt or media says??? hahaha shits amazing .
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mmilano24 2 hours ago
I'm a highly amazing human drug and alcohol free and if you think it's real go dig a hole and bury yourself cause your already dead.
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Brian Rogers 9 hours ago
Was he wearing a GoPro or using a cell phone to record? Either way you think he would be really shaking. Why would the camera go completely black at the end? There should be something more than complete darkness.
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Erik Stotler 15 hours ago
This is not fake! I hate when people always try to say everything is a false flag attack plotted by the government. What could the government possibly gain out of doing this? Allison was a very good friend to a lot of my friends. She went to college in my town and interned for my local news channel before getting the job with this new channel. Not everything is a false flag! Stop posting this garbage and don't believe it you ignorant people.
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SUPER NATURAL 14 hours ago
+Erik Stotler Because they want reasons to implement gun control so that innocent people can't fight back. Im sorry but I've seen people get shot by the po po's and trust me there is a huge difference. Where was the bullet hole? The blood? Everything was off.
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Robert Lenn 6 hours ago
You people seriously need to get back on your meds, to think that this is all faked and a hoax.......What a bunch of dumbshits to think that it is not real. Continue please.... Asswipes. Maybe one day you all might become human.
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Christopher Stehman 2 hours ago
This is surveillance footage of a man sustaining multiple fatal shots at close range and running off immediately. He is not "blown" back by the force, as that is not possible from standard handgun calibers. He stumbles back, likely from being surprised/startled. This man ran 100 yds before collapsing, and likely didn't even feel the pain right away - it is entirely possible the same happened to the young reporter who was shot. ·



Chris Getty 3 hours ago
fucking idiots....2 people are dead and you wanna say some bullshit like this...theres a bunch of really inconsiderate motherfuckers on here grow up and get a fucking life
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sprybug 10 hours ago
Wow, you guys move fast! And reading the comments you guys speculate really easily without even diving into facts first! LOL. With some research, you'd find out the background of the shooter, that the cameraman and reporter are in fact DEAD and that the person being interviewed is in the hospital after being shot in the back. I bet she'd love to tell you guys just how "FAKE" this all was when she gets out...oh wait, she's an actor too that's right. You guys always say the same bullshit every time. You guys need mental help. You guys are all paranoid that the government's gonna take away your gunz, lol. IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BY NOW with all the shootings that have happened over the several years! You guys probably don't know this, but a lot of people make jokes about you guys all over the internet. Just read the comments here. It sounds like a bunch of trolls had gathered....BUT NOT, this is how you really think! It's sad! Get some help!
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Rikaya Partlow 4 hours ago
+Time Bandit Yup. Precisely about eleven minutes before the towers fell, they were reporting it on the news.
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Ericsr48 1 hour ago
+sprybug I personally love facts. I am having trouble however finding many. Maybe you can help me seeing as how you have done your research. What was the weapon used by the shooter? Oddly enough that FACT which is one of the easiest to report is unable to be located (at least by me) I have looked at all the "majors" articles (NBC<CBS<ABC<FOX) as well as some small ones and I cannot find it anywhere. They all seem to instead focus on the fact he was a black homosexual and they were white and straight, and whether people were being mean to him or not. A grown fucking man being bullied? A homo with a gun? I don't know whether it is real or not but I would like to know the weapon used, can you provide me with this FACT?
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archer435 52 minutes ago
You can tell those are not blanks because of the consistent recoil of the weapon, and you are see blood beginning to flow.. blanks dont cause recoil because there is nothing pushing against the weapon to cause recoil...
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s7207127 26 minutes ago
276 idiots vs 123 non-idiots. Not bad actually.
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ebaylistentomusic 5 hours ago
She flinched. Wouldn't you flinch if someone shot several bullets into your torso? Case closed. :)
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John Burrows 2 minutes ago
TOTALLY FAKE !! THEY TAKING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION OFF FLAT EARTH SINCE ITS GAINING HUGE TREND NOW
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Adam Wright 7 hours ago
First few shots missed - anyone else see a hole being blown in the wooden pole to her right between :10-:12?
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saddamdontsurf 2 hours ago
You folks have watched entirely to many Quinton Tarantino movies . Shootings dont look in real life the way the movies show them .
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MrHaircut1 27 minutes ago
The first shot definitely missed, possibly the next one or 2.
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Curtis Fease 4 hours ago
you're all stupid as hell. to hear you morons tell it... no tragedies ever happen... simply fake conspiracies. thanks for letting us know that there are no bad people in the world... only conspiracies. fucking idiots.



Jo Mama 18 hours ago
Not everything is a fucking false flag, Jesus Christ.
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Jo Mama 16 hours ago
+john stebner the camera man for the news got a clear shit of his face. Sorry, it was him.
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Jo Mama 16 hours ago
+SuperGrowPlants is that why the camera man got a shot of his fucking face????
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bendix109 23 minutes ago
I shot guns before at gun range I know how it feels shooting gun the recoil is so powerful it makes gun fly upward almost hit my face. This video shows there is no recoil at the time the gun was fired that means he was shooting gun with blank ammunition. This shooting is 100% hoax there is no way she can still run after she got shot 4 times at close range. That is total bullshit.
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maxreilly2007 8 hours ago
Don't normally go for this kind of stuff but Jesus Christ she took 3 close range shots apparently and never buckled over. Something ain't right
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keno1964 5 hours ago
I love it when you loons post things like these. I get to sit for a while and laugh my ass off at all the dumbassery that follows.
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Dj TeeOh 7 hours ago
Here is proof the Virginia shooting is fake. https://www.facebook.com/DJTEEOH/vi...78989/?type=2&theater&notif_t=video_processed
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HITBOYWONDER 14 hours ago
Also a hoax like 9/11 and ISIS cuz isis used a green screen and hollywood-like effects to pull this fake beheading of UA soldiers off.Just maybe Read my previous comments and leave a like please...
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Steve Woboski 2 hours ago
I've shot a billion blanks in the military this is such a bunch of bull shit. A five year old could make a better fake shooting. Operation Gladio false flag CIA satanic bull shit. Also if you get shot point blank as a small women your ass like everyone who is really shot hits the deck, and you keel over from the pain. Most people don't know because they don't shoot allot or are satanic nwo liars. So you know this is a five year old level fake shooting by Satanists who don't like Americans having guns.
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Steve Woboski 32 minutes ago
+DigitalAtrocitiesStudiot It's fake go look at any video of someone being shot point blank and you will immediately be able to see a visible bullet impact on the persons body. It will hit and hit hard they will feel like they're being burned by a molten hot piece of metal. This is fake a cultist satanic NWO production via a number of intel outlets. Fuck em
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Steve Woboski 31 minutes ago
+Steve Woboski Also funny you mention the old false flag and patsy as an example. Satanist liars have been around along time..
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Kile Myers 5 hours ago
the bigger question is how the fuck did neither Gardner or the blonde reporter see him pointing the gun in their faces, or hear him mumble the word "Bitch" while he was pointing it at them....... it makes no sense.
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sln454 2 hours ago
Waaaaaaay to much recoil for blanks come on now. Real or fake ive never seen blanks recoil like that and Ive been shooting longer than most of you have been alive.
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Dayamí 12 hours ago
please take a look at this video- the shooter takes longer to shoot- notice the hand how it takes a few seconds to shoot. look at the difference in videos. you decide.



Aaron Pederson 13 hours ago (edited)
A few things. 1)You can hear the shooter breathing heavily and is aim is not steady. AKA he is nervous as hell. When you shoot someone or even take aim under those conditions, the slightest jerk can send the bullet way off trajectory. This is why many people buy assault weapons for home protection after attempting to fend off an intruder with a pistol. 2) Movies do not provide an accurate depiction of what happens when you get shot. A stop shot for the most part needs to be in the center of the chest or in the correct part of the head. An abdominal shot will not always knock someone down and many people don't even realize they are shot immediately. Also, blood does not come flying out of every body shot either. Every shot a deer? You can hit them square in the lungs but some will still jump up and sprint for quite a ways before falling/bleeding out. 4) 9 mm pistols are widely know for sucking when it comes to stopping power. There are many cops out there who ill tell you an entire clip of 9 mm rounds often does not take someone down. 4) The lighting in proximity of the camera man's hand to the lens is makes his color misleading. The other camera man's footage shows the shooter briefly and you can clearly identify the shooter. 5) You are all fucking idiots.PS. The woman being interviewed just got out of surgery. Idiots.
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Rahb Moravec 15 hours ago
So many people on here thinking they know ballistics lol a .40 or a .45 knocking them on their ass.... Really??
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TazTalksYouListen 11 hours ago
Yeah, everything's fake. Gotcha. I guess I'll just go back to watching my real movie until this video is taken down by youtube. There is absolutely no value in this being fake, but there is plenty of reasons for it to be real. Idiots. Not everything is a conspiracy and not everything is corrupt. Once you arrive at that reality, only then will you have really awoken.
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VaNdLeZ 14 hours ago
Also at the end of the video it seems to me as if hes dropped the phone but you can also her as if someone is moving close by you can hear sounds of someone holding the phone or attempting to grab it, but u can hear what sound like underwater shots, The phone must of fell camera side down for it to be a black picture, and the shots that sound different at the end i think is because he ran a distance from the phone before firing more shots ..............idk im only spitballin here
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Tom Amos 10 hours ago
You sir have never seen any one shoot, those bullets are very small. It takes some time for the person to die.



stpaulimdog 13 hours ago
I think they release these obviously fake vids just to anger us when they have them all erased. I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people can be so careless with their info.
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MrTaser99 11 hours ago
funny how the police told witnesses to delete their videos or they would be confiscated as well..... what are they hiding?
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Gerald Goyimsteinberg 10 hours ago
Does all your knowledge of guns come from movies? How does the gun look like blanks are being fired? Muzzle flashes aren't huge fireballs you see in movies or TV they're just like the ones in the video. She was able to run because of the adrenaline in her body you idiot. A 9mm handgun won't make you fly backwards 50 feet like you would think. Take off your tin-foil hat because people are dead.
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redwood original 11 hours ago
it was a black man that was the shooter, clearly that hand is fair skin, almost white
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shanna presnell 10 hours ago
I live in Virginia, in the town where this criminal act took place. I assure you it was very much real. These people lost their lives! You need a better hobby!!
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Martin Bratt 14 hours ago (edited)
If you compare both videos from the two cameras and look closely, the photographer drops his camera while the gunman is still shooting at the woman. Furthermore, normally in a situation like this you make a noise: Stop, Stop, Stop or something of a kind. I don't know if you ever been attacked by a dog, I have and I have seen people being attacked too. The fear makes you shout as loud as possible. But the photographer and the other woman are quiet. Another thing is when you shoot a real person for the first time you are very nervous, your hand would most probably shake.
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s parker 14 hours ago
these are the same things that I was saying about the video... I tried and tried to pause at a spot where you could see the slide of the pistol returning to battery after discharge and you won't find any frames where it happens. didn't see any frames where a shell casing was ejected either. at that range if she was hit by a bullet you would have seen a different bodily reaction. why were all shots shoulders and below? if blanks were used you wouldn't want to run a risk of possible trauma to the face so would do body shots only. too many questions about this one. too convenient to not only have it on broadcast but to also have cell vid footage...like the are trying to pull a magic trick...misdirection what the eyes see and the ears hear the mind believes.
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Phil Lopez 11 hours ago
Answer : This is not a fucking movie idiot. The first shot hit her rt shldr. After that he was spraying and PRAYING, none of that was visible. She more than likely bled out idiot. Understand, bombs, rockets, grenades, and bullets don't have the same effect in real life as they do in your video games or movies.
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Craig Wait 15 hours ago
I can't help but think about the grimacing look of pain when Lee Harvey Oswald was shot after the first bullet hit him and how he tried to protect himself at the same time. The woman in the video never had a look of pain but just of being startled and that was after the second shot. Hard to believe she could run away after taking 2 or 3 rds. from 3 or 4 ft. away. Plus, the sound of the gun shots after the video went black (which is also suspect) sounds like they were shot in a barrel of water. With all the false flags going on in the past, the quick reaction by the administration to champion gun control and the fact the media with a black and white beef is enough to put my vote in the column as more fake bullshit from our Jew run media and government. Make no mistake the Jews are pushing all of this crap for the purpose of rolling America out and the NWO run by Israel in.
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More to Life 13 hours ago
This was indeed a false flag operation. No way would a tiny girl like her been able to take three direct shots and not have been knocked on her ass. This was a false flag op.
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CHRISGR3EN 12 hours ago
OH MY GOD I SEE THE BLOOD PACK. SHIT MADE ME CRY!!!! ITS CONFIRMED FAKE
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Sam Seacrist 12 hours ago
Shut the fuck up you disrespectful piece of shit.
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James Marquez 13 hours ago
Sorry I posted twice. Through the app it said there was trouble posting so I came internet where I saw it posted twice.
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maj .imair 11 hours ago
look at all the muslim protectors
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Barry Soetoro 12 hours ago
I agree 100%.... Just finished arguing (playfully) with my mom about this bullshit... Smh bitch turned into Carl Lewis after 3 shots?!?!? C'mon man.... She iiiiiight, nothing happened to any of these crisis actors, business as usual
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420condog 12 hours ago
The reality of gun deaths are very real. I am terrified of how stupid these paranoid gun owners are on this thread. God help us all.
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jason booker 10 hours ago
I'm from Roanoke va and I can assure you guys this in not a hoax. I wish it was. Adams dad was my high school guidance councilor. Please try to be respectful. This is a tragedy for our local area.
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jason booker 3 hours ago
If you guys have nothing better to do than disrespect the dead. Come down here to Roanoke. Talk to the the friends and family. Goto the funeral. Know what you're talking about before spewing nonsense.
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java monster 14 hours ago
So the reporter is dead, the cameraman is dead. And this is fake? Yall been watching too many hollywood movies.
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Daniel Juanda 10 hours ago
u all say it's a bullshit but it's really happening out there ...
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Robert Arnsworth 10 hours ago
the shooter's hand is white, not black, or so it appears.
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Lena Ingwallzén 4 hours ago
And the shooter conveniently wore an action camera too!?
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Jeff Wojcik 11 hours ago
she would of gone down the first shot.
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s7207127 9 hours ago
+Jeff Wojcik If it did not go wide.
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Jimmyhit 13 hours ago
for a amateur that likes guns but understands that I have no military or therefore official training other than my father which is a retired district attorney investigator and served in Vietnam. I would say for a novice shooter compared the first bullet went through the belly second through left breast and third through the left lower back... her spinal chord prob wasn't severed and adrenaline is used for survival of the body... none the less there is enough distrust for government that this video will still get views and the ones that think this is fake are not putting their opinions cause it's known these things are watched by gov. either way it happened it's fucked up... it didn't happen it's fucked up.
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Akber Ali 3 hours ago
Ok 3 bullet shot holes in the wood, anybody see that, he missed with the first few shots, which is probably why he fired so many times?
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Fosterz P 10 hours ago
I knew Allison. She is dead because of this psycho. And then people have some nerve to make it a conspiracy theory. Screw all of you
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joshua Webb 13 hours ago
Really odd how in the original video he stood near them with the gun aimed at her. No reaction from them at all.
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TheQueenSpider 14 hours ago
A round nose bullet with a copper jacket would rip straight through a person if it didn't hit any bones. It's like getting cut with a really sharp blade - you don't even know you're cut and don't see any blood at first. A hollow point would have knocked her on her ass the first shot.
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Michael Hatch 13 hours ago
Can't argue the white hand tho
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Pong woo 14 hours ago
i watched the video from the news camera and paused it on the shooter and its a white guy with a handlebar mustache i wish i could post the picture i grabbed from video. the black guy is a patsy if you ask me certain forces here are at work to stir up a race war Ferg>whites looking bad nyc black male shoots 2 cops> blacks look bad Charlston shooting>whites look bad again This news shooting>blacks looking bad again these are only a few examples of the back and forth the media is pushing. somthing dont smell right
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Britini 8 hours ago
can't focus with all the lip smacking
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Paliv 15 hours ago
Please explain to me how this is fake with a Glock 9mm producing that much recoil? Blanks do not produce recoil like that. Cute conspiracy video though.
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SUPER NATURAL 5 hours ago
+Paliv I understand that and thats fine to leave it at that but of course I will respond to your comment. The video is at close range and I don't even see bullet holes. Plus someone mentioned as well how there are no bullet shells. Even in video games they make it obvious the shells fly out and drop on the floor. None of that happened. I bet theres no convincing each other so ill leave my comment at that too.
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KC 14 hours ago
Dont suppose all those who are talking about this being fake and how the sound isnt 'right' etc etc etc, are gun owners by chance?
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Bill Foster 7 hours ago
As to the question of whether they are really dead, remember, people enter the witness protection program all the time and get second identities. In fact, this was supposedly her last day on the job, how convenient. And even if you accept the official version of events, it still leaves open the possibility that the killer was targeted and recruited by the government to do this. So really, you cannot disprove the conspiracy. And we all know TPTB want to divide and conquer us as the financial system fails.
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Danny Guinn 17 hours ago
And all the ignorant comments about his "white hand" ... Have you never shot a home video??? are you not aware how easy it is to screw up lighting, which screws up color on the video. the same video won't even look the same on different devices. GET A LIFE. My God, a 24 year old woman is DEAD, a 29 year old man is DEAD. The murderer killed himself in a final act of cowardice. Go to the funerals. Go to Fairfax INOVA Hospital and tell them you think the killer was never there. Tell the parents and loved ones of these people it was all fake so pull their loved ones out of those coffins. Especially talk to the family of the killer. Then come back here and beg forgiveness for your ignorant comments.
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dmusk 16 hours ago
Why are concentrating on the white hand? The video clearly shows he shoots twice at point blank range and the woman is hit by nothing. Do you think he missed both those shots? why the black screen?
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Derek smith 15 hours ago
+dmusk that's not point blank that's ATLEAST 2 or 3 yards
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Repair and Service Manuals 4 hours ago
Missed shots or whatever,don`t you think if this was faked,she would have been schooled on how to react to getting shot and falling??????????
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truffle sauce 8 hours ago
It is not illegal in the states to use propaganda on citizens. A different, longer video shows the alleged shooter walking up the dock, no one bats an eye, he is waving the gun 3 feet away from her face, and not even the woman being interviewed who clearly would have seen this, says a thing, doesn't even raise an eyebrow. Nothing. Fake. Don't fall for it. They're trying to start a race ware. Also, Moneta, Virginina..Moneta is an italian word for money. Could be hints that the economy is a "go" for the collapse. Death of money symbolism perhaps? Who knows.
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Jerrod Davis 12 hours ago
Ever hear of adrenaline?
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Doo Ba 6 hours ago
if the shooter is black why is the hand white???????
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JESUS is GOD 11 hours ago
Nice Job! I'm glad you caught this I knew it was fake from the first time it aired on tv. Also they said he used hallow points! I shoot and go hunting a hallow point from a glock 19 would blow your insides out at point blank range.
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Revolution Ready 10 hours ago
slow motion review of the reporter shooting
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CopyCat 1 hour ago
can anyone explain why from the camera man dropped to the ground when he only shot the reporter?
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bob blow 13 hours ago
she would have dropped when she turned away.. the bullet would have hit her backbone.
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Rikaya Partlow 4 hours ago
ONE MORE OBSERVATION: THE CAMERAMAN DIDN'T EVEN FLINCH AFTER THE FIRST SHOT...... PAY ATTENTION!
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Waarheid Openbaring 4 hours ago
yes i mentioned that also!
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Rikaya Partlow 9 hours ago
HOW I KNOW THAT VIDEO IS FAKE: 1. AFTER THE FIRST SHOT, WHICH APPEARED TO BE AT THE WOMAN'S CHEST, SHE WAS STILL STANDING..HOW? 2. YOU DON'T SEE ANY BLOOD ON THE FRONT OR BACK OF HER BODY (NO ENTRY OR EXIT WOUNDS, NOT SO MUCH AS A WRINKLE ON HER SHIRT). 3. AFTER THE SECOND SHOT, WHICH APPEARED TO BE AT HER BACK, SHE WAS STILL STANDING. HOW? SHE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE HIT THE GROUND AFTER BEING "SHOT" IN THE BACK. AGAIN, NO ENTRY WOUND IN HER BACK AFTER THE SHOT RANG OUT. 4. AFTER SUPPOSEDLY BEING SHOT TWICE SHE STARTS RUNNING, OF ALL THINGS. WHO ON EARTH RUNS AFTER BEING HIT IN THE CHEST AND IN THE BACK, AND HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? SHE RAN MIGHTY FAST FOR A WOMAN THAT'S JUST BEEN SHOT TWICE! 5. LET'S GO BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO....YOU MEAN TO TELL ME NO ONE SAW THAT MAN WALK UP AND WAVE A GUN A FEW TIMES BEFORE SHOOTING IT? REALLY? FROM THE DIRECTION HE WAS COMING, THE WOMAN IN THE WHITE BLOUSE SHOULD HAVE SEEN HIM CLEAR AS DAY. 6. WHEN THE SCREEN GOES BLACK, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE GUNSHOTS ANYMORE. SOUNDS LIKE BB GUN PELLETS HITTING A TRASHCAN. 7. IF HE REALLY WANTED THEM DEAD, WHY'D HE TAKE SO LONG TO SHOOT? WHY DID IT TAKE HIM EXACTLY 40 SECONDS TO START SHOOTING? COME ON, NOW! CUT THE CRAP. WHO Y'ALL THINK Y'ALL FOOLING? NOT ME, THAT'S FOR DAMN SURE!
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outlawbenning 4 hours ago
Funny how ghettos are filed with murder and no one is debating that, but this fake shooting sparks another gun violence debate?! Fake ass shooting all the way!!!
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trenton steele 17 hours ago
If it's faked why the fuck are the reporters dead??
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William Potter 17 minutes ago
oK if this is a fake, then why are they both dead?
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BigCMLove 3 hours ago
Have none of you guys seen Bestgore videos at all? Just from the look of the gunshot its fake. If a 200 pound male gets shot by a glock from a police officer 4 meters away gets taken back, why the fuck is this blonde skinny newsreporter superwoman? Pt blank range as well.
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outlawbenning 4 hours ago
Funny no one ever wants to debate violence in movies, if you play into this fake crap... Always instant attack on the gun owners and our Second Amendment. Just another proof that there is an agenda and that means all these are staged. 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, Oklahoma bombing... too may false flags and lies to list in resent history...Globalization requires the elites too take our freedoms away. Only thing stopping them is our current gun ownership. Taking them on a mass scale will prove detrimental so they have to use these false flags to condition the rest of the dumbed down population to demonize gun owners and pass illegal laws.
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TheFsxChannel201 2 hours ago
this is a re-enactment you mugs
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Jim Pope 15 hours ago
CNN Said a witness saw the camera man get shot first then the girl was shot running away. Well from this here that wasn't what happen at all.
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VaNdLeZ 14 hours ago (edited)
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meuswe 16 hours ago
there wpuld also be blood splatter.
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cruzalberto209 27 minutes ago
when I first saw this video I was like wth doesn't make any sense the man falls first but clearly the gun is aimed and fired at the lady first
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Michael Hatch 13 hours ago
Yes, I have walked on a wooden deck with out making noises. It is possible walk up on people with out them knowing. Depending on location and caliber of the bullet... Yes a person can just stand there getting shot (happens quickly body won't feel it) and it's even possible to run with bullet wound injuries.
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Jessica Jensen 17 hours ago
I thought the camera man was shot first? in this video you can see him but the live news video from his pov he gets shot and then you hear screaming and shots fired
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Z ZZK 15 hours ago
All of you conspiracy wack jobs are nothing but stupid steaming pieces of shit. You people need to have you're heads examined.



Lord Vernictung 17 hours ago
I must commend you rational thinkers out there.the last channel I was on people were acting like they believed every word,truley a sad lot,but not here.You PEOPLE THAT HAVE SHOT GUNS know THE TRUTH. What ,is he supposed to be filming with his left hand ? and if you notice ,the guy in the black shirt on the right of his gun arm,dose not get out of the way nor dose he even look around even after the 2nd shot.The muzzle is almost at his shoulder putting it VERY close to his ear.I have been in a car before when a 44 mag went off.They are so desperate now they are acting pervs that out of desperation makes BIG mistakes and show themselves.they have tried fake shooting of kids ,boston bomb fakery 911 black lives matter who George Soros funded,Ferguson and the fake church shooting.If I was going to kill some one and I knew it was going to be my last day on earth would I pick a women? ,who last I checked,NO WHITE WOMEN HAVE BEEN KILLNG BLACKS. So I think i would choose some one who looks like the ones that I am really pissed at "WHITE MEN" Not to mention the color code choice these women were wearing ,those of you who know what I mean,I will leave it there I have said enough.
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backdraft6290 16 hours ago
ok, you guys got me stumped on this one.
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The Tram 19 hours ago
It the paperwork faxed it stated he had the initials of the people written on the hollow points. Yes the first shot may have missed but the second and third point blank? The other angle never showed blood on the white blouse of the interviewee neither. It isn't passing the sniff test I tell ya.
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James Marquez 13 hours ago
for a amateur that likes guns but understands that I have no military or therefore official training other than my father which is a retired district attorney investigator and served in Vietnam. I would say for a novice shooter compared the first bullet went through the belly second through left breast and third through the left lower back... her spinal chord prob wasn't severed and adrenaline is used for survival of the body... none the less there is enough distrust for government that this video will still get views and the ones that think this is fake are not putting their opinions cause it's known these things are watched by gov. either way it happened it's fucked up... it didn't happen it's fucked up.
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Penryn277 16 hours ago
It's a 9mm compact Glock 19. I see untrained shooters missing from those distances all the time in shooting competitions especially shooting one-handed.
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Z ZZK 15 hours ago
All of you conspiracy wack jobs are nothing but stupid steaming pieces of shit. You people need to have you're heads examined.



taint spray 19 hours ago
He missed the first shot by jerking to the right
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Jimmyhit 13 hours ago
for a amateur that likes guns but understands that I have no military or therefore official training other than my father which is a retired district attorney investigator and served in Vietnam. I would say for a novice shooter compared the first bullet went through the belly second through left breast and third through the left lower back... her spinal chord prob wasn't severed and adrenaline is used for survival of the body... none the less there is enough distrust for government that this video will still get views and the ones that think this is fake are not putting their opinions cause it's known these things are watched by gov. either way it happened it's fucked up... it didn't happen it's fucked up.
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John Burrows 2 minutes ago
TOTALLY FAKE !! THEY TAKING PEOPLE'S ATTENTION OFF FLAT EARTH SINCE ITS GAINING HUGE TREND NOW
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Robert Lenn 13 hours ago
Hey dumb asses, this POS just killed two real people. yeah, sure. its faked. Of course its NOT faked!!! So it doesn't follow with your "ideal" shooting, things like this never do. TWO dead people, how is that faked??? Grow up, get a life, maybe grow a pair. Sheeple??? LOL
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James Marquez 13 hours ago
for a amateur that likes guns but understands that I have no military or therefore official training other than my father which is a retired district attorney investigator and served in Vietnam. I would say for a novice shooter compared the first bullet went through the belly second through left breast and third through the left lower back... her spinal chord prob wasn't severed and adrenaline is used for survival of the body... none the less there is enough distrust for government that this video will still get views and the ones that think this is fake are not putting their opinions cause it's known these things are watched by gov. either way it happened it's fucked up... it didn't happen it's fucked up.
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Love Dark 20 hours ago
best video as yet
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burrito57 2 hours ago
so nobody's dead? nobody's in the hospital? false flag for what? wake the fu#k up. sometimes, things actually happen. turn off the alex jones show and join reality.
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TheHalfbreed76 3 hours ago
get off the meth you paranoid freak
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Stephen Taylor 15 hours ago
I counted 15 shots?
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woodsnwaterjcd 16 hours ago (edited)
I'm not arguing either way out of respect for victims in case it is real. But, I did not see shock wave or any type of flinch from the impact of a heavy caliber bullet on her clothing or body based on the angle of the weapon and the would be trajectory of the bullet. No blood anywhere? The frame count was slowed down enough to see a bullet streak leave the barrel, I did not see one, also did not see wood splintering behind her if the shot was missed or pass thru. I reviewed this many times and my question is where are the brass casings being ejected as the shooter commences to fire? IDK.
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burrito57 4 hours ago
you are a complete retard. so, people aren't dead and in the hospital? that tin foil hat's on a bit tight, you g-damned idiot.
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naijaboygangsta 11 hours ago (edited)
time of shooting 6.45 am boyfriend tweets 11 minutes before shooting https://punditfromanotherplanet.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hurst-tweet.jpg?w=480&h=419
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naijaboygangsta 9 hours ago (edited)
+BP Buckets No. Thats why this story seems fishy to me. I have collected some things here: Time of shooting was 6:45am as displayed here in this screenshot I took http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/26/18/2BAE961200000578-3211529-image-a-126_1440610070445.jpg "Exclusive camera footage" from the alleged shooter, shows that the camera caught him at 6:00am http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...is_believed_to_be_a_di-a-76_1440603444792.jpg The "Live" feed was pre-recorded, how else would you explain how the camera magically caught the shooter 45min prior to the actual Incident at 6:45 am :/ (I took the screenshot, as soon as the news outlets published those. For some odd reason, every news site I visit has the Time stamp at 6:00am missing from the footage of the death camera man. Meaning they spotted their own mistake and edited out the Time.) Then you have the boyfriend tweeting 11min before the shooting even happens https://punditfromanotherplanet.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/hurst-tweet.jpg?w=480&h=419 Another thing I noticed is that in this screenshot http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015...is_believed_to_be_a_di-a-76_1440603444792.jpg thegunman isnt holding a recording device or some sort. How the hell did he film the incidence then? In the past 10 years or so, I'm really not sure if I should trust our media or not sometimes. Things really doesnt add up
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The Tram 3 hours ago
+naijaboygangsta nice investigative reporting sir.
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Bill Foster 7 hours ago
Take a look and carefully study her reaction. It really looks like a classic reaction to the sound of a loud gun, rather than actually being hit. Her shoulder goes up, she looks in the direction of the sound. Absolutely no visible pain reaction, doesn't fall to the ground. And several more shots fired and she somehow managed to run off? This lady wasn't hit by a bullet in this video, that's for sure.
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Jen C 17 hours ago
This is the sloppiest false flag I have seen. If they are getting sloppy, they are under a time crunch, and something real will kick off soon...a dirty bomb is coming our way....
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HITBOYWONDER 14 hours ago
Clearly this was a hoax used for reverse psychology so people can say guns are bad.This is to promote gun control for the new world order or the one world government.She was clearly shot with rubber bullets or he just shot blanks and she made physical body gestures used once shot.At that range shot multiple times there should be some type of physical biological evidence.Maybe the illuminati paid her and the other victims to act in order to promote gun control in their own greedy way.But lets say just how cops are killing people lets spread the amount of people getting shot out of no where so people can think guns are bad all according to plan.But what's weird is why would they even air something that looks this fake.Maybe theres more to this.Maybe the victims are now in another state with new identities and new physical appearances.Just maybe despite my "Conspiracy Theories", some claim it still doesn't back up the fact she got shot three times and ran away as if she didn't get shot.
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cameron rodgers 15 hours ago
apparently the mentally enslaved minded morons who believe that this was a hoax is clearly lost. You guys cant even tell whats up from down.
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Andres LaBrada 16 hours ago
A co-employee of the station the alleged victims worked at said the victims (paraphrase) "were lovers, but I'm sure you will get more into that." speaking to the morning show news anchor. Then seconds later the same news reporter, Robin I believe is her name, started talking about each of the victims having separate relationships. Strange.
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Z ZZK 15 hours ago
All of you conspiracy wack jobs are nothing but stupid steaming pieces of shit. You people need to have you're heads examined.



EJCTV 12 hours ago
It seems that so many people call things fake. Where you there ? No so shut up
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cr1m203 12 hours ago (edited)
For all the people who think the shooting was real based on the shooting, explain why is the shooter's hand white? but the "suspect" who shot him self hand is nothing like that color , any where close to being that white...explain that one.
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MikeG

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Pre-emptive? found these already
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there are loads of them out there.

Checklist of claims... crisis actors, para-military uniforms, lack of blood, gun wrong, too many shots fired, signs video was edited... all the same old same old CT mantra's

Very sad.
 

trevor

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To make your post more informative, can you post an example of the claims to which you're responding, and perhaps a brief summary of the event itself?

i would, but the problem with this is that people are claiming its a hoax just by saying "It looks fake"...and that they are actors, lack of blood, they Ran away (Which is what i was covering) etc....you know, stuff that they just spit out of their mouths with NO evidence that actually supports it....It's disgusting, it's equivalent to "Taking a dump on someones grave". Although i do not know the people who were involved, i just think it's highly offensive and disrespectful.
 

trevor

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I saw many posts claiming it was a false flag before the OP posted that. I also KNEW they would claim false flag.

same here...second i heard about it, i said, "Well, time to check youtube for the conspiracies", and sure enough....
 

deirdre

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i would, but
yea but didnt you choose the title to this thread? you made it specific. or was that an admin?

From what i'm hearing (and from pics) she wasnt actually shot in the footage we see. so even though yea, obviously, people can run after being shot.. that seems irrelevant in this instance.
 

trevor

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yea but didnt you choose the title to this thread? you made it specific. or was that an admin?

From what i'm hearing (and from pics) she wasnt actually shot in the footage we see. so even though yea, obviously, people can run after being shot.. that seems irrelevant in this instance.

This was the second post i ever made, Im not an expert on "Creating Fabulous/Amazing Metabunk" posts. "That seems irrelevant in this instance". No it doesn't, look at the comments on the videos, and even the videos that are addressing the actual footage. The youtube user/channel (The man who uploaded the video) actually said "People drop like flies when they get shot", and that was wrong. I was simply hoping to start the new thread and knock down a claim....that is all..........
 

Whitebeard

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i would, but the problem with this is that people are claiming its a hoax just by saying "It looks fake"...and that they are actors, lack of blood, they Ran away (Which is what i was covering) etc....you know, stuff that they just spit out of their mouths with NO evidence that actually supports it....It's disgusting, it's equivalent to "Taking a dump on someones grave". Although i do not know the people who were involved, i just think it's highly offensive and disrespectful.
Dead right, but sadly it happens EVERY time these days; 7/7, Charlie Hebdo, Sandy Hook, The Oslo Youth Camp, the Aussie Cafe siege... to the CT mind there are no terrorists, no random nutters, no acts of God. Planes don't crash anymore, they are shot down, chemical plants never have industrial accidents, its space weapons or sabotage... Every event induces the same CT set text. They have no compassion for those involved because to them those involved have to be part of the conspiracy in the first place. It's sick to everybody else, but to those with the CT mindset its a natural response. :(
 

deirdre

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"That seems irrelevant in this instance".
it's irrelevant.. the CLAIM ...is irrelevant because it doesnt appear to have happened in this case. At least not that i can find evidence of.

For instance the first shot at least, the ladies are obviously and naturally reacting to the SOUND of the gunshot only, imo.

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Whitebeard

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how can i edit my post? I don't see an edit button, and i'd like to include the video.
There's only a short 'edit time', a few hours that post can be editted after posting, if you contact an admin they can add the vid link for you.
 

Jeremy

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Dead right, but sadly it happens EVERY time these days; 7/7, Charlie Hebdo, Sandy Hook, The Oslo Youth Camp, the Aussie Cafe siege... to the CT mind there are no terrorists, no random nutters, no acts of God. Planes don't crash anymore, they are shot down, chemical plants never have industrial accidents, its space weapons or sabotage... Every event induces the same CT set text. They have no compassion for those involved because to them those involved have to be part of the conspiracy in the first place. It's sick to everybody else, but to those with the CT mindset its a natural response. :(

It hasn't even occurred to them that it's absurd to believe that ALL of these things are false flags, inside jobs, and/or hoaxes.
 

NoParty

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It hasn't even occurred to them that it's absurd to believe that ALL of these things are false flags, inside jobs, and/or hoaxes.
Sadly...oddly...an irrational belief that one unfortunate incident is somehow a "false flag"
seems only to make them more willing to believe that the next tragedy is also somehow a false flag...

...and the snowball o' nonsense just gets bigger and bigger...
 

TWCobra

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Sadly...oddly...an irrational belief that one unfortunate incident is somehow a "false flag"
seems only to make them more willing to believe that the next tragedy is also somehow a false flag...

...and the snowball o' nonsense just gets bigger and bigger...

The criteria seems to be that if the event is filmed, it must be faked.

Bizarre.
 

John West

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it's irrelevant.. the CLAIM ...is irrelevant because it doesnt appear to have happened in this case. At least not that i can find evidence of.

For instance the first shot at least, the ladies are obviously and naturally reacting to the SOUND of the gunshot only, imo.

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I shoot a guy in the gut once at close range by accident. He didn't realise he had been shot straight away. It took at least 5 seconds for him to realise he had been hit.
 

John West

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Has anyone addressed the claims being made that the shots sound like blanks? Apparently blanks have a distinctively different sound than live bullets.
 

Mick West

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Has anyone addressed the claims being made that the shots sound like blanks? Apparently blanks have a distinctively different sound than live bullets.

Unless someone is seriously presenting evidence for this, then I don't see any reason to address it.
 

trevor

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I shoot a guy in the gut once at close range by accident. He didn't realise he had been shot straight away. It took at least 5 seconds for him to realise he had been hit.

you'll hear alot of similar stories like that in the Marines...Guys will get back to base, and Sarge says "Johnson, you got a massive hole in your leg".

Johnson- "Thanks, wasn't aware...i'll get that checked out". Might have something to do with the nerves.
 

trevor

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Unless someone is seriously presenting evidence for this, then I don't see any reason to address it.
that's the thing Mick...None of these people actually post evidence for this kind of stuff, and 80% of the people who watch these videos believe the claims INSTANTLY.

Im almost tempted to make the claim MYSELF just so we could knock it down.
 
You MIGHT think that a CT would at least consult with a deer hunter (and everybody in the continental USA knows at least one) to see if a large mammal can run after being hit by a bullet that does not strike the heart, head, or any other vital organ that does not drop it immediately.

Or, perhaps, watch a Youtube video of a deer being shot by a hunter.

But I also agree with Deidre - the reactions I saw in the live footage seemed to show the two possible results of a gun being fired in close proximity to two unsuspecting people. The interviewer seems to exhibit the "fright and flight" reaction, and the interviewee seems to exhibit an example of freezing due either to fear or the inability to comprehend what exactly is occurring. I don't think either was hit by the first shot.
 

BombDr

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I have been shot myself, in the lower torso and I did fall like the classic sack of spuds. I was wearing body armour which may have transferred the force over a wider area and as it was near my centre of gravity toppled me over. It all happened fast and I can only remember feeling like I have been hit with a hammer and staring at the sky. I do not recall actually hearing anything, but I also don't recall leaving the aircraft on my first couple of jumps...

So much for my experience - I have also seen people shot in multiple situation and they rarely do the whole hollywood thing, with Tarantino-esque blood spurts. 'Commentators' such as Freedom Fighter 2127 is simply verbalising his ignorance without any sort of fact-checking filter or experience to back it up... Maybe the local Sheriff department in Virginia likes to dress up like soldiers with excessive weaponry and equipment, but he cannot be bothered check, and is probably one of the first to complain about the militarisation of the police....

Or, perhaps, watch a Youtube video of a deer being shot by a hunter.

Completely agree - not that I suggest watching animals being shot by anyone should be entertainment, nor the actual shooting of the animals, but from what I have seen they are often shot with large caliber rounds with exotic expanding qualities and they run like Priests from an orphanage....

So yes, people run after being wounded by gunfire; not everyone bleeds excessively from a gunshot wound; cops in the US sometimes wear silly clothes; he did not seem that black to me, if one is permitted to make such an observation; and there is nothing in the sickening videos that suggests trickery or malfeasance in any way.

7/7, Charlie Hebdo, Sandy Hook, The Oslo Youth Camp, the Aussie Cafe siege... to the CT mind there are no terrorists, no random nutters, no acts of God. Planes don't crash anymore, they are shot down, chemical plants never have industrial accidents, its space weapons or sabotage.

Youtube is just a depository for the ignorant to place their rambling nonsense and demonstrate their skepticism that bad things can happen without the illuminati.
 

deirdre

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Maybe the local Sheriff department in Virginia likes to dress up like soldiers with excessive weaponry and equipment
more likely Roanoke SWAT or whatever they call their "tactical response" people down there.Virginia state police were heavily geared up too but they seemed to be in green.
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but the 'military looking' guys werent geared up.. as far as the pics the CTs are circulating.
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Hevach

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I think the usual Shock and Adrenaline repsonse is appropriate, and a link to badassoftheweek.com's numerous accounts of soldiers, athletes, and just regular joes performing ultimate acts of human greatness in the brief window before they go into a coma from blood loss.

Like an overheating engine, the human body never performs as well as it does in the last few seconds before it breaks completely, and if a bullet doesn't drop somebody immediately or perforate something really important, the adrenaline response is the body's Konami Code - people in shock lift more, run faster, and fight harder than even they themselves believed possible, if only for a short time before the injury overtakes them.
 
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occams rusty scissor

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and if a bullet doesn't drop somebody immediately or perforate something really important, the adrenaline response is the body's Konami Code

There's an older study from the FBI on this subject (related to the Feds choosing the most appropriate and effective calibre) which covers off on this. Dispels a lot of Hollywood myths such as "stopping power" and what causes incapacitation (or not):

Physiologically, a determined adversary can be stopped reliably and immediately only by a shot that disrupts the brain or upper spinal cord. Failing a hit to the central nervous system, massive bleeding from holes in the heart or major blood vessels of the torso causing circulatory collapse is the only other way to force incapacitation upon an adversary, and this takes time. For example, there is sufficient oxygen within the brain to support full, voluntary action for 10-15 seconds after the heart has been destroyed.

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MickeyS

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yea but didnt you choose the title to this thread? you made it specific. or was that an admin?

From what i'm hearing (and from pics) she wasnt actually shot in the footage we see. so even though yea, obviously, people can run after being shot.. that seems irrelevant in this instance.

I agree...I thought just from basic observation that the shooter appeared to be aiming his gun while holding a camera (phone? Perhaps) and the way he was shifting his view and his line of sight keeps drifting to try to get it centered, raising his arm like he wanted to make sure he was getting the gun in the shot .... and he was more concerned with getting the shots on film, probably assuming at such close range, he couldn't possibly miss, but in the end it's like patting your head and rubbing your stomach, as soon as those first shots go off and she starts running, I believe he totally missed and the camera goes dark because he realizes he can't do both and sticks the phone in his pocket, and finishes the job, that's why you can still hear what's going on. I know that's not very scientific, but I thought it was kinda obvious that she hadn't been shot yet, and I thought her reflexes were pretty quick, she ran like hell, poor thing
 

BuffaloCub

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I also find the claim that someone in high heels can't run like that. I've seen plenty of women in heels, particularly on nights out, dancing in heels, running for cabs in heels, running down the street to catch up with friends, etc. I mean, once you get used to them it's pretty easy to walk and run in them, especially if you're someone who gets used to wearing them all day.
 

Whitebeard

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I also find the claim that someone in high heels can't run like that. I've seen plenty of women in heels, particularly on nights out, dancing in heels, running for cabs in heels, running down the street to catch up with friends, etc. I mean, once you get used to them it's pretty easy to walk and run in them, especially if you're someone who gets used to wearing them all day.

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Johnny Finn

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I remember watching the film that was captured from the shooter's perspective and noticing that his hand in the film is a bit pale in comparison with some other photos that I've seen of him. Did anyone else notice something like this? Am I seeing wrong?
 

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