VAS Aviation - lights in the sky over Dallas

[flarkey]

Mysterious Weird Lights in the Sky | Pilots UFO Reports over Dallas!


Source: https://youtu.be/tMuz8iCbt0o?si=cKM1pbCs-oC-HVqW

Just starting this thread here, so we can confirm the details and and check for the usual Starlink flares...

 

[taurusclover21]

Just to be clear, despite the video title. the lights weren't over Dallas.

 

[Mick West]

I didn't see a date, but that flight on Nov 30 (local) was entirely in the Starlink band the whole time.

 

[NoParty]

For those that are on the fence about watching:

Once again, we have video that is absolutely not at all what is described.

A) "We're following these two, kinda lights that are up above us..."

Every second of video shown clearly has three lights.

B) The possibility of them being satellites is quickly rejected,
on the grounds that they alternate between "super bright" and "dim" or "go away."
[Written] "My first thought was satellites, but they kept getting super bright and go away over and over." [Spoken] "Yeah, they get super bright and then go completely dim, also."

The 42 seconds of video (1:08 - 1:50) show the three lights maintaining a constant level of brightness.

 

[Mick West]

The 42 seconds of video (1:08 - 1:50) show the three lights maintaining a constant level of brightness.

I think they might have just added that video to illustrate the audio. It does not seem related.

 

[NoParty]

I think they might have just added that video to illustrate the audio. It does not seem related.

Boy, if so, that's a very odd choice. Showing a random clip that contradicts what you're claiming.

 

[flarkey]

A comment on this thread from another pilot,

@AltitudeAerials

2 days ago
Pilot here as well. We've been seeing these lights on our asia-north america transpacific flights early this year for some reason they're not visible nowadays. Have actual footage from my phone. Vas Aviation let me know if you would like me to send you the video

Source: https://youtube.com/shorts/k80lzO3q4R8?si=NS-XneAo6bsy7RPH

nov 22 2023, 0206gmt to be exact. Heading was variable since we don't follow a straight line but it was from east to west so mostly around 060-090 deg.

 

[flarkey]

I didn't see a date, but that flight on Nov 30 (local) was entirely in the Starlink band the whole time.
View attachment 73900

Apparently it was Nov 29.

 

[Mauro]

I'm starting to think pilots are not those 'trained observers' as they're usually described...

 

[JMartJr]

I'm starting to think pilots are not those 'trained observers' as they're usually described...

They are trained to observe things like "are other planes that I want to be sure I don't run into in the area," so when they see something new to them, like Starlink flaring, they interpret it in those terms -- it looks a bit like aircraft in a racetrack holding pattern, so is interpreted as objects flying such a pattern. In these cases, at least, I think the observation is pretty solid -- distant lights crossing a small area, repeated, fading in and out -- it is the interpretation that was off.

I would hope we'd be nearing the point where "unfamiliar" would be fading away, as more pilots see them, talk about them, and come to understand what they are. We'll see how that goes. But hey, at least in the current not-quite-a-flap, they are not interpreting them as near misses by a craft with rows of windows, or the like.