UFO Encounter / Commercial Airline Pilot - Colorado Area

Mick West

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrYhjrMmm74

In the commercial airline Captain's own words... "The whole event started about Midnight EST in the Colorado area. We were heading west on about an 85* heading at 35,000 ft going 078 Mach around 540 mph. The entire event started just to the right of the Big Dipper with a falling star traveling multiple thousands of miles/hr and immediately after, the craft appeared. First one was a larger one, then a smaller one that came from the left to meet up, then the original moved back to the left where they finally stopped moving for over an hr. The large craft stayed in one spot as the other 2 moved around. The final video shows them in a triangle which lasted about 20mins. We were given a new heading to the left and lost site for the remainder of the night on 10/19/22." "I have been a professional pilot for 42 yrs with over 28000 hrs. I need to stay anonymous." "This has Never happened to me."
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That's a bit confusing, as an 85° heading is EAST, not west, and 35,000 feet in that areas is all eastward traffic. So probably going east. But then if they lost sight moving to the left then that implies they were going west!

The video looks like two stars and something else. Unfortunately there seem to be no identifiable constellations.

Second video (first three not uploaded)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LTQ76kSeng


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“The whole event started about midnight eastern time in the Colorado area. We were heading west at 35,000 feet going around 540 miles per hour.

“I then saw this falling star, which didn’t go across the sky but came vertically straight down just to the right of the big dipper at an unbelievably high speed.

“Immediately afterwards, the craft appeared. I saw this one glowing craft moving up and down repeatedly. Then my co-pilot said, “holy shit there’s two of them”. There was one bright one and another which was dimmer, and as the hour went on, they started getting brighter.”
 

flarkey

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“The whole event started about midnight eastern time in the Colorado area. We were heading west at 35,000 feet going around 540 miles per hour.
We were given a new heading to the left and lost site for the remainder of the night on 10/19/22.
Urgh, I hate it when they use midnight as the time reference. Does that mean midnight between the 18/19 October, or midnight between19/20 October....?

Anyway - 00:00hrs EST is 0400hrs UTC on 19 Oct.

“The whole event started about midnight eastern time in the Colorado area. We were heading west at 35,000 feet going around 540 miles per hour.
We were heading west on about an 85* heading at 35,000 ft going 078 Mach around 540 mph.
an 85° heading is EAST, not west, and 35,000 feet in that areas is all eastward traffic. So probably going east. But then if they lost sight moving to the left then that implies they were going west!

If he was logging time in Eastern Time, it suggests that he took off from the Eastern side of the USA and was Heading West. Maybe the "85°" is a typo and he meant 285°. Or it could have just been a mistake. And yes, I agree that if they lost sight moving to the left then that implies they were going west!

There's not a lot of solid data to go on here.
 

Ann K

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In the second video you posted it looks as if the large object is separating more distinctly into two lights. But it seems that color appears in them, if watched closely, and the light on the left is consistently showing green while the one on the right is more red.
 

Mick West

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This, Video 5, is stabilized on the bottom left light, and 20x speed. You see the spacing smoothly increase, consistent with getting closer. The greenish yellow light resolves into two, and it looks like the bottom left one is also resolving into two.

The captain reportedly said:
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These didn’t move for 500 miles. They didn’t get bigger or smaller. They were so high and appeared not to be in our atmosphere.


That's a bit odd as they clearly did at least get closer and brighter.
 

FatPhil

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That's a bit odd as they clearly did at least get closer and brighter.

When sped up, it's clear, certainly. Human eyes aren't that sensitive to small steady changes. If he's staring out into the dark, he might be expecting (subconsciously) dark adaptation to kick in, and the things he's looking at to just naturally get brighter as eye sensitivity increases? If he's looking down at brighter controls, he might lose any reference level for comparison of prior brightness - every time he looks back up it's "dim"?

Do we know if he ever resolved the two front lights in the same way that the video does? If it was far and dim enough that he never resolved them, then we are close to the limits of human vision, and errors in perception are more likely.

Actually - was he "seeing" through the camera+screen, or through just his eyes? If the former, then some things become more understandable, and others become less.
 

flarkey

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When sped up, it's clear, certainly.

Do we know if he ever resolved the two front lights in the same way that the video does? If it was far and dim enough that he never resolved them, then we are close to the limits of human vision, and errors in perception are more likely.
If they're getting bigger, and the aircraft is on a westerly heading, is it fair to assume that the objects in the video are ahead of the aircraft and therefore in the Western sky (or perhaps on the ground)?

Edit: after thinking about this .... if they're visibly getting ~50% bigger over a period of 1m29 in VIDEO 5 - does that suggest that they are not stars or distant satellites? They must be closer to have such an effect on their relative perspective.

Travelling at 540mph (= 9 miles per minute) for 1min29 equates to 13.5 miles travelled.
 
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Mick West

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Edit: after thinking about this .... if they're visibly getting ~50% bigger over a period of 1m29 in VIDEO 5 - does that suggest that they are not stars or distant satellites? They must be closer to have such an effect on their relative perspective.
50% bigger means the distance has reduced by 33% (say, from 150 miles to 100 miles)

Plane travelling at 540 mph = 13.5 miles in 1.5 minutes.

Which would put them 13.5*3 = 40 miles away at the start, and 27 miles away at the end.

If that's correct they would get to them in three more minutes.
 

Ann K

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If that's correct they would get to them in three more minutes.
I'm ignorant of the procedures in airline flight directives, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are approaching aircraft the reason they would have been directed to a different heading at that time?
 

flarkey

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I'm ignorant of the procedures in airline flight directives, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are approaching aircraft the reason they would have been directed to a different heading at that time?
Probaby not. The aircraft was proably just making a normal heading adjustment as it neared it's destination.
 

Mendel

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I'm ignorant of the procedures in airline flight directives, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are approaching aircraft the reason they would have been directed to a different heading at that time?
They should have been at different altitudes, which tends to prevent mid-air collisions (vertical separation).
50% bigger means the distance has reduced by 33% (say, from 150 miles to 100 miles)

Plane travelling at 540 mph = 13.5 miles in 1.5 minutes.

Which would put them 13.5*3 = 40 miles away at the start, and 27 miles away at the end.

If that's correct they would get to them in three more minutes.
That's only true if the target is stationary, isn't it?

If it's an oncoming aircraft, the closing speed would be higher, making the distance bigger.
 

Mick West

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If it's an oncoming aircraft, the closing speed would be higher, making the distance bigger.
Yes, if it's oncoming aircraft at a similar speed, then you could quite simply double the distances above, so it's going from 80 miles away to 54 miles away.
 
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