The FBI Fosters, Funds and Equips American Terrorists

Oxymoron

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From 5 mins is a complete PR disaster



http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013...ttacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html





http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/04/29/boston-lockdown-fear-uncertainty-and-bias/
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/04/30/nati-a30.html

 
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Tazmanian

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The UN Human Rights Council blames the Boston attacks on US foreign policy
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/23/watchdog-group-blasts-un-official-for-blaming-boston-bombings-on-american/

Putin agrees. He's upset that when the Chechen terrorists attack Russia, the US calls them "insurgents" and then assist the terrorists with funding.
http://rt.com/news/putin-boston-bombing-terrorists-381/

Ken Livingstone, the former Mayor of London agrees
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...nks-Boston-bombings-to-US-foreign-policy.html

 

MikeC

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Awesome self-contradiction in that video - whining about the FBI arresting "incompetent" terrorists before they do anything....and then whining about the FBI not arresting competent terrorists before they did do something (WTC bombing)
 

Oxymoron

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Awesome self-contradiction in that video - whining about the FBI arresting "incompetent" terrorists before they do anything....and then whining about the FBI not arresting competent terrorists before they did do something (WTC bombing)

What is wrong with that? They are not supposed to be running around inducing and paying the mentally ill to attempt terrorist acts so they can arrest them and get kudos and more funding.

And they are not supposed to allow a known bombing to go ahead without intervention.
 

jvnk08

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That "Seal Team" logo is actually the trademark for the Marvel character "Punisher".

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...TYOKfpiAe_kYGQCQ&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=320&bih=417


It is, in fact, a Craft hat, but that doesn't mean anything. For one thing anyone can buy them from their store. These guys are most likely NatGuard CSTs(as shown in the other thread dedicated to them), and Craft offers a lot of counter-terrorism courses/training. It's not really shady that their insignia appears on a single hat worn by one of the folks you would likely expect to bear said insignia...
 

MikeC

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What is wrong with that? They are not supposed to be running around inducing and paying the mentally ill to attempt terrorist acts so they can arrest them and get kudos and more funding.


You don't see the problem with complaining about arresting people before they commit an act and complaining about not arresting people before they commit an act? That dosen't strike you as a little 2-faced??

And they are not supposed to allow a known bombing to go ahead without intervention.

indeed - yet that is precisely what the FBI are being criticised for doing.

If you arrest them on the basis that they seem to be planning a bombing and it turns out that their plan was actualy a bit pathetic - should that be seen as evidence of the arresting agency "manufacturing terrorism"??
 

Cairenn

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If the government is involved, according to some, whatever they do, is damned if they do, and damned if they don't.
 

Tazmanian

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It is, in fact, a Craft hat, but that doesn't mean anything. For one thing anyone can buy them from their store. These guys are most likely NatGuard CSTs(as shown in the other thread dedicated to them), and Craft offers a lot of counter-terrorism courses/training. It's not really shady that their insignia appears on a single hat worn by one of the folks you would likely expect to bear said insignia...

And this guy is wearing the same logo on his shirt.



Wearing your superhero costume to a back yard get together is one thing, wearing it while you're on duty means something completely different. Having unidentified Rambo type guys running around doing covert operations is NOT ok. They're so used to doing it in other countries, now they think they can do it at home? The taxpayers need to approve their activity, and that's why they need to be identifiable, just like all the other public servants. I want to know what I'm paying for.
 
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Cairenn

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Wearing your superhero costume to a back yard ng said:
Why are you insisting that they were doing 'covert operations"? If it was covert, they would be wearing jeans and maybe a Red Sox t shirt. YOU don't go around wearing insignia when you are doing a covert op.
 

MikeC

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Having unidentified Rambo type guys running around doing covert operations is NOT ok.

These chaps were quickly identified as "Craft International trained" personnel all over the 'net within a day or so of the bombing - just look up "tan pants bostom bombing"!

And what covert operation?

AFAIK being trained by a "private security service", or evenbeing employed as such dose not restrict you from attending public events, and tan pants and a black jacket are hardly "superhero costume"!
 

Tazmanian

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Why are you insisting that they were doing 'covert operations"? If it was covert, they would be wearing jeans and maybe a Red Sox t shirt. YOU don't go around wearing insignia when you are doing a covert op.

If they were there for a reason, what was the reason? They certainly weren't helping anyone. What was in their back packs? Why was their vehicle allowed in the area along with the FBI bomb squad? They were the only team at the finish line, if they were supposed to provide security, they didn't do a very good job.

The other team, the one that's actually trained to respond, wasn't allowed on the scene. What makes these guys so special?

I'm not insisting anything, I just like to ask questions. Especially if I'm the ope paying for it. Don't you?
 

MikeC

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I don'' know the reason - but isn't it axiomatic in hte USA that if you are not actually doing anythign wrong yuo dont' have to give reasons for standing around in a public place??

what is hte evidence that they were "the only team allwoed at the finish line"? WERE they actually there to provide security? why don't you know?? Have you actually asked the FBI??
If not why not?

And if they were there to "provide security" exactly what was the nature of the contract - croud control? Were they actually there to check for bombs? Were they there for training in a crowded public environment?

I don't know the answers - it is easy to ask questions though - why don't you actually do some research instead of insisting everyone else answers your questions for you???

And also acknowledge that the fact that you and I do not know the answers does NOT mean they are guilty of anything at all!
 

Cairenn

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Did it occur to you that a friend might have been running in the race? Or that like to attend it? Thousands of folks do that. Water would have been reasonable item to have in backpack.

I often carry a tote bag, with a couple of water bottles in it. Some of the meds I am on give a dry mouth and I have GERD that makes me cough a lot. Water helps with both of those. How many other folks had on backpacks?
 

Tazmanian

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Did it occur to you that a friend might have been running in the race? Or that like to attend it? Thousands of folks do that. Water would have been reasonable item to have in backpack.

I often carry a tote bag, with a couple of water bottles in it. Some of the meds I am on give a dry mouth and I have GERD that makes me cough a lot. Water helps with both of those. How many other folks had on backpacks?

Do you also have a vehicle that shows up after you call them? And the FBI bomb squad? If they were hired, why is no one claiming them? If they were spectators, or training, why is that a big secret, why can't they just say that?

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1718
 

MikeC

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Maye nobody hired them, and that is why nobody is "claiming them".

Maybe they were there because as US citizens they have a right to attend public events without being harrased by conspiracy nuts?

Have you actually asked THEM why they were there? Who would know better than they would!

The article you link to is shoddy - he rang their number and got an answering service, who told him to address any questions to their email address. He says he has sent an email "but got no response" - no date is given when he made the enquiry. He makes no mention of having made any followup, nor tells us the actual content of the email.

Al in all it's still just a beat up and not actually any evidence that anything was actually wrong at all.

sorry about that.
 

Cairenn

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They did NOTHING wrong. There is no reason for folks to pester others about their presence there.

Why should ANYONE have to prove to you WHY they were at a public event? You would be horrified if the police asked you why did you go to a certain movie, instead of another. Folks have RIGHTS of free assembly.

Get a Freedom of information form and find out, otherwise you are just gossiping, like the old lady that lived back of us.
 

Tazmanian

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Maye nobody hired them, and that is why nobody is "claiming them".

Maybe they were there because as US citizens they have a right to attend public events without being harrased by conspiracy nuts?

Have you actually asked THEM why they were there? Who would know better than they would!

With this attitude, we can expect a lot more bombings in the future. No problem.
 

Tazmanian

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They did NOTHING wrong. There is no reason for folks to pester others about their presence there.

Why should ANYONE have to prove to you WHY they were at a public event? You would be horrified if the police asked you why did you go to a certain movie, instead of another. Folks have RIGHTS of free assembly.

Get a Freedom of information form and find out, otherwise you are just gossiping, like the old lady that lived back of us.

These people also did nothing wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_PxLmxvNA
 

Pete Tar

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Do you also have a vehicle that shows up after you call them? And the FBI bomb squad? If they were hired, why is no one claiming them? If they were spectators, or training, why is that a big secret, why can't they just say that?

http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1718

But you've been shown an article, and you even quoted from it, that did talk about who they were and the reason they were.
If you're actually interested in this, why are you repeating questions that have been answered?
Again...

 

Cairenn

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I doubt it. We don't have very many. [...]



http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/16/opinion/bergen-bombings




http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/17/four-decades-us-terror-attacks-listed-since-1970



It seems that terrorism is going down, just like other violence acts.
 

MikeC

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With this attitude, we can expect a lot more bombings in the future. No problem.

Rubbish - my attitude is that people who have no known link to a crime should not be harrased about it.

With your attitude people can expect to be subjected to harrasment for no other reason than you do not know what they are doing..

conspiracy theorists often complain about unwarranted interference by "the powers that be" so I find it ironic that you would liek to do exactly that to someone else.
 
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