Sudden deaths increasing on Google Trends

PenaH

Member
This is the newest thing that anti-vaxxers try to use as their evidence. I have seen literally hundreds of them tweeting something like “search "sudden death" or "suddenly dead cardiac arrest" or something like with any known serious vaccine side effect, you can see it with your own eyes”

Here are two graphs from two different posters

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Here are two I got

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So, yeah. It does seem to be increasing, but I think it is pretty far-fetched to say this is because of vaccines. These could still very well be because of COVID-19 itself. Also, these just mean what people are googling and I would argue large porportion of these searches would be from anti-vaxxers trying to find proof that vaccines are unsafe.

What do you think?
 

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Itsme

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Anti vaxxers tend to be pre-occupied with the vaccine risks and fail to realize that it is not a choice between "getting or not getting the vaccine". These days it's a choice of "getting COVID with or without being vaccinated".

COVID-19 patients who suffer a cardiac arrest either in or out of hospital are far more likely to die than patients who are not infected with the coronavirus.
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Higher COVID-19 incidence correlated with significantly higher sudden cardiac arrest incidence and lower survival rates during the pandemic period in the U.S., according to findings presented at the hybrid Heart Rhythm 2021 meeting.
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Although the direct causal association of SCD [Sudden Cardiac Death] and COVID-19 remain unproven, analysis of the present data suggests a plausible association. Increase incidence of SCD has been reported both in community and hospital settings.
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And so on, and so on... Just Google outside the antivaxx bubble...

The same is true for influenza by the way, the last source also states:
There is compelling evidence for an association between influenza epidemics and major adverse cardiovascular events like Myocardial infarction (MI), stroke, and SCD. These all may be prevented by influenza vaccination. Influenza epidemics is also associated with higher risk of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest (OHCA).
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
Anti vaxxers tend to be pre-occupied with the vaccine risks and fail to realize that it is not a choice between "getting or not getting the vaccine". These days it's a choice of "getting COVID with or without being vaccinated".
there's nothing in the OP that signifies covid or the vaccine. they arent google trend searching "sudden death covid" or "sudden death covid vaccine".

You are taking the OP s word that anti-vaxxers are saying these things. Claims without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 

JMartJr

Senior Member
An interesting self fulfilling prophecy -- "Hey gang, if we all get each other interested in searching for Sudden Death using Google, we'll see searches for Sudden Death are increasing!" Who'da thunk?
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
"sudden death" is essentially unchanged. "died suddenly" is what was trending
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That suggests it's nothing to do with an increase in sudden deaths, but rather the search term itself going viral.

This seem to be the same phenomenon as "Clinton Body Count" - you just keep accumulating cases that confirm a hypothesis (and ignore others) with zero statistical analysis and it seems significant.
 

Mendel

Senior Member.
Also, these just mean what people are googling and I would argue large porportion of these searches would be from anti-vaxxers trying to find proof that vaccines are unsafe.
Exactly.

Why are they looking for sudden deaths on Google, and not in their neighborhood?
Ask a teacher how many of their pupils have died, or ask the local gardening club, or whatever you can think of, to get in touch with reality again.
 
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