STS 48 footage; "possible UFO"

Jason

Senior Member
I was watching a show a few nights ago on the H2 channel about NASA unexplained files. 99% of the time I always dismiss the claims as being a hoax, man made, or explainable. But this one "file" they had involved STS 48 and it was quite remarkable. One side clearly believes its actual footage of a UFO, and the other side believe it could be ice particles floating outside the shuttle. I personally don't have the faintest clue as to what it could be and both arguments are compelling. So I thought I would present the footage here hoping to get some explanations. The first clip is titled "Abrupt Turn". You can clearly see an object become visible just below the earth's horizon at about 1 minute and 32 seconds. You see a "white" object appear just below the earth's horizon. The object moves from right to left. At about 1 minute and 44/45 seconds you see a flash happen on the lower right side of the screen. Its not a "in your face" kind of flash, but its visible. A split second later you see the object make an abrupt turn going in the opposite direction moving much faster now. At 1 minute and 48/49 seconds you see what appears to be a beam of light shooting from earth upwards in the direction of this object. So I'm curious as to what others think is going on here. In the video you also see a larger white reflective object near the upper left hand side of the earth's horizon that isn't moving. It appears to be stationary, and don't know what that object is neither. Since the earth is rotating you would expect the object to fade from view. In another video related to this "unexplained file", they actually plot the object and all of the other objects moving about here;
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
I don't know if this will satisfy your questions, but James O'berg is pretty knowledgable on manned space subjects.
 

Jason

Senior Member
I don't know if this will satisfy your questions, but James O'berg is pretty knowledgable on manned space subjects.
The only problem with this observation is that there is only 1 particle, the one in the frame that is moving from right to left. This particle is the one that abruptly changes its direction. No other particle is in the frame when this "sequence" happens. Also if the space shuttle was performing a RCS wouldn't or shouldn't we have seen the shuttle's position change. When the RCS plume occurs, the space shuttles stays the course, there isn't any movement out the window in any direction which would imply a course correction. Then we see something reflective move very fast away from earth into space, but I do agree that it's hard to get a fix in space as to where the actual horizon begins.

Check out this video of STS 48 as well. Its only 3 minutes long and I started when you start to see these reflective objects whiz by the space shuttle. They are moving so fast relative to the shuttle itself, and the camera actually moves to try and focus in on some of the objects. I don't know if the camera is hand held or automatice...
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
Well then there's this very detailed analysis that concludes they're definitely anomalous.
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
O'berg addresses this claim on his site and in this ATS thread.


 

Jason

Senior Member
We believe that the measurements and analyses contained in this paper establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the objects captured in this video are not orbiter-generated debris (e.g., ice particles) disturbed by a thruster firing. However, it is beyond the scope of this paper to speculate on what they might be. It can only be said that they are not meteorites flashing in the atmosphere, as it has been claimed for flashes seen from the shuttles, because the trajectories, velocities, and sudden changes in direction of certain objects studied in this paper are not compatible with this hypothesis.
An attempt should be made in future missions to detect and record similar events. In particular when not otherwise in use, the fore and aft cameras in the shuttle's payload bay should be monitored so that they can be positioned to allow stereo imagery of similar phenomena to be acquired and analyzed.
Honestly, this was my thinking. Well maybe not as scientifically sound, but this is definitely a strange phenomenon worth examining..

As for the 3 min video I posted in my second post, did you have a chance to examine that as well. These reflective materials can't be ice particles because they are whizzing right by the shuttle in all directions. You can even follow them well beyond the horizon. I don't think ice particles would behave like this, and in this video there are no thruster flashes to use as an option.
 
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