Steve Sprague - Personal UFO Sighting

[Z.W. Wolf]

Steve Sprague is the the Ecuadorian Butterfly/Orb guy - UAPmax

His X Account was linked to recently in that old thread. Looking through it I ran arcoss this; which is interesting because this is his own eyewitness report.



He drew this illustration:

It seems to me to be a pretty easy IFO. A plane with a contrail shining in the low afternoon Sun. In this video the plane seems to me to be invisible. Just the contrail is visible. It may have looked different to the naked eye, and he was observing before the video starts.

Then the contrail.

He seems to be saying he saw an object without a contrail and then it started to leave a contrail at some point. But everything visible in this short video is a contrail. Perhaps the contrail was short at first and then grew. He perceived the short contrail as a solid aircraft. When the contrail grew longer, he perceived it as the same craft leaving a contrail.

But it started dropping straight down until I lost it.

Ordinary perspective. We've seen this confusion before.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/an...flying-over-my-house.13669/page-3#post-324337

It's a pretty common misperception that crops up in meteor reports.

If anyone can remember specific cases of this kind of misperception, it might be worthwhile gathering them together in a specific thread.

The most striking example I can remember was in connection to the LA Mystery Missile. In that case the "missile" was percieved as going straight up.

 

[flarkey]

According to his replies it was at 1.15pm EST , Milford, Worcester County, Nov 9 2024.

 

[ced0412]

I see that UAP on a weekly basis.

Also UAPmax had or has a website where they post completely unhinged articles. Looks like the site is gone and has been moved to Patreon.

For $10 a month you too can read about China's reverse engineered laser and other wild claims that never came to pass.

 

[NoParty]

Wow! Fabulous detailed close-up art work!! (Considering the crummy, distant video!)

 

[flarkey]

location

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Mac+Med+Spa/@42.1492433,-71.5071287,3a,75y,187.28h,95.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shCNWGdJa8mHa11w3vlm-JA!2e0!6shttps://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?cb_client=maps_sv.tactile&w=900&h=600&pitch=-5.95278964118215&panoid=hCNWGdJa8mHa11w3vlm-JA&yaw=187.27796064552692!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x89e472442c07921f:0x9a59366bc8ee75bb!8m2!3d42.1491466!4d-71.5068751!16s/g/1tf5fs96?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYwNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw==

 

[Z.W. Wolf]

According to his replies it was at 1.15pm EST , Milford, Worcester County, Nov 9 2024.

What's the population? How many other reports were there of a huge UFO cruising across the sky?

 

[Calter]

I don't really see anything at 13:15, but assuming it's just an approximation, there's a potential flight at 13:09 that could be a match for the contrail. I'm not a fan of the angle difference though, so I could be wrong

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-11-09-18:09&lat=41.969&lon=-71.884&zoom=9.2

Reading the tweet, I'm still not sure if they saw something move fast that eventually left a contrail, or if they saw something move fast and connected it to the contrail.

 

[flarkey]

I don't really see anything at 13:15, but assuming it's just an approximation, there's a potential flight at 13:09 that could be a match for the contrail. I'm not a fan of the angle difference though, so I could be wrong

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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2024-11-09-18:09&lat=41.969&lon=-71.884&zoom=9.2

Reading the tweet, I'm still not sure if they saw something move fast that eventually left a contrail, or if they saw something move fast and connected it to the contrail.

yes I found (or didn't find) the same at 1.15pm. Round numbers like that tend to be an approximation. Plus we don't know if that's the time it was overhead, or the time of the video. That plane is a good candidate.

 

[tinkertailor]

He drew this illustration:

This looks very AI-generated to me. I've looked at a lot of eyewitness sketches on MUFON and the like before AI was as prolific as it is today. Something about the smoothness of the shading, the hard, inklike edges with pencillike shading inside, the unnatural way that the pencil marks are shaded.

Here is how we usually shade when we're drawing:

It's very specific, even when done by someone who isn't experienced in drawing. Here, the shading is all over the place.

Also: why is there a shadow on this object? It's drawn as if it's sitting on a surface and lit from above with a shadow under it, like this egg:

But that isn't how you would draw such a thing if it was flying. You would show it in the sky, with no shading against the sky. If I pointed up to the sky and asked you to draw an airplane, would you draw it flying or would you draw it sitting on a white abyss with a shadow? All kinds of weird.

 

[Ravi]

This looks very AI-generated to me. I've looked at a lot of eyewitness sketches on MUFON and the like before AI was as prolific as it is today. Something about the smoothness of the shading, the hard, inklike edges with pencillike shading inside, the unnatural way that the pencil marks are shaded.

Here is how we usually shade when we're drawing:

It's very specific, even when done by someone who isn't experienced in drawing. Here, the shading is all over the place.

Also: why is there a shadow on this object? It's drawn as if it's sitting on a surface and lit from above with a shadow under it, like this egg:

But that isn't how you would draw such a thing if it was flying. You would show it in the sky, with no shading against the sky. If I pointed up to the sky and asked you to draw an airplane, would you draw it flying or would you draw it sitting on a white abyss with a shadow? All kinds of weird.

Yes, quite surely AI. It has this "perfect" look that us imperfect humans hardly reach. But hey, lets give him the benefit of the doubt and perhaps he is a super drawing expert in PS or Illustrator Pro?

 

[Fin]

ChatGPT agrees the image is likely AI-generated. Most comically, it spotted a watermark in the lower left corner that says "AI-generated"

Adjusted for clarity in Photopea

 

[Mick West]

I'm not a fan of the angle difference though, so I could be wrong

Contrails are rarely at the same angle as the plane's track. They can differ by up to 20%. This can also be greatly exaggerated by perspective.

 

[Mick West]

An extreme example from 15 years ago.

https://contrailscience.com/los-angeles-missile-contrail-explained-in-pictures/

 

[Smythe Bacchus]

Metabunk contrail threads have plenty of photos and videos that demonstrate the vast variety in their appearance. The video below is of specific interest as it is taken from another aircraft, starting in the LIZ, moving direct to the observer until it is resolvable as a commercial airliner.

Whilst in the LIZ the distinction between the aircraft, contrail, light, and shadow is merged, giving the appearance of an arrow like object with a tail, reminiscent of the AI render posted by Steve Sprague. The rapid change in appearance and detail dependent on angle and distance is clear.

Airbus A380 Contrail as seen from KLM Cockpit Boeing B747-400

A huge contrail from an Airbus A380 as seen from cockpit of a Boeing B747 above the South China Sea. We were warned by a Hong Kong air traffic controller. That's why we were able to film this event.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6iR7w7a_Q