Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUthXIGUsq8
Looks like the usual collection of LIZ videos. Ballons, kites, birds, and planes all unclear.
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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUthXIGUsq8
Looks like the usual collection of LIZ videos. Ballons, kites, birds, and planes all unclear.
(Apologizes for the short post, dinner time, more later)
I'm aware of sondehub and habhub (High Altitude Balloon) but I don't think they offer playback.Is anyone familiar with Sondehub.org? They are a tracking site for radiosondes to assist with recovery efforts for crashed balloons. If we can access archived datasets we may be able to see some balloon activity near the area during the proposed timeframe.
https://sondehub.org/#!mt=Mapnik&mz=8&qm=1h&mc=31.99876,-106.05103
I have reached out to their support staff as I am unfamiliar with the data.
Here is an example of one over Fabens, TX which is right down the road from Mile High:
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https://www.milehighresources.com/Man who owns all this stuff out in the desert?
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anything that might look like a balloon uh balloons tend to be the scapegoat when you don't have any other bucket to put it in we all like to use the balloon bucket and admittedly a lot of this stuff looks like a balloon like you
could take a mylar balloon and we've actually played with that in the field we launch our own balloons to see if we
can um can deep fake our own data by launching balloons and seeing if we could could manufacture something that looks like the anomalous stuff we're seeing and um balloons get ruled out pretty quickly uh when you take into account wind because balloons are uh are going to move pretty close to the vector or the direction of travel of the wind and pretty much at the velocity of the wind so as soon as you start moving um perpendicular to the wind or at any angle not directly downwind at velocity is different than the ambient wind velocity balloons get ruled out pretty quickly despite how much you want to believe that it's a balloon um because there are things there are classes that um look like it could be a balloon until it starts morphing and changing like balloons aren't going to change the way they look and their radar signature also is something that's pretty distinctive now I'm not one of our radar operators I'm I'm not I'm not an analyst for radar but I'm I'm in our tactical Operation Center when we're looking at this stuff and I can tell you that um the last thing any of us want is to look foolish by putting something out to the public and saying we think it's anomalous and then having it easily explained Away by all the armchair quarterbacks watching the internet around the world
From quote in Post 25 above.External Quote:
and um balloons get ruled out pretty quickly
Perhaps here? Notice the draw on the right hand side of the image.I think it would need dirt roads to get the caravan up there etc.
For anyone who wants to take a crack at that, I've made an adjusted version of the image on the screen, so that it's proportionally correct for a 16:9 display, assuming that's what's in use in that clip of the video, for overlaying on an appropriate terrain image for comparison.Can anyone work out where this terrain is in the Mile High, TX area? If we can it would allow us to work out the range of their radar.
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It is at 1m46s in the video.
The pilot says that the collective was "frozen". This would prevent the helicopter from going up or down, and it would prevent it from flying a curve without losing altitude.Any Helicopter pilots here know if there's anything wrong with the helicopter at 23 minutes into the video? And if so, are they familiar with that type of malfunction?
They claim the helicopter wouldn't move up, left, right or up which I'm of course skeptical of since it's implying some sort of force field.
Article: To increase or decrease overall lift requires that the controls alter the angle of attack for all blades collectively by equal amounts at the same time, resulting in ascent, descent, acceleration and deceleration.
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The examples mentioned in that thread involve something stuck under the lever, which would prevent it from going down, but not from moving up.Article: fortunately it's rather rare - in 40 years of flying, I've never heard of it actually happening.
Which helicopter model is this?
If @Dave Beaty still has contact to that helicopter pilot, maybe he could ask about the malfunction?
Thank you!This is a Hughes 500 cockpit.
Article: One of the best failure-free systems is used on the Hughes 500. It has Direct linkage from the pilot to the rotorblades , no hydraulics , servos , or electrics to fail. Bullet proof , light and safe and simple.
I would think that even a temporarily inoperable collective would ground the aircraft until a cause was found. However, listing "mind control" or "aliens siezed the controls" on the maintenance log would certainly raise some questions down the road.Thank you!
Article: One of the best failure-free systems is used on the Hughes 500. It has Direct linkage from the pilot to the rotorblades , no hydraulics , servos , or electrics to fail. Bullet proof , light and safe and simple.
Meaning, to "freeze" the collective, aliens would have to mechanically hold the linkage. Or mind-control the pilot to not pull the lever—which presumably could also be achieved by humans with money.
The alternative is the "force field" I mentioned, which I think is what Skywatcher implies when they say:Meaning, to "freeze" the collective, aliens would have to mechanically hold the linkage. Or mind-control the pilot to not pull the lever—which presumably could also be achieved by humans with money.
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Barber: Our helicopter launched and about a half mile out the helicopter stopped moving. Engines running, blades are turning, but it would not, go forward, it would not go up, it would not go left or right... It was stuck there.
Someone I don't know: So, we're kinda... imagine, like, a blanket above us and it's like it's like pressing us down
Another alternative is the "giant hand" illusion. That sounds silly, but it's a real thing, one of several illusions that pilots are subject to.The alternative is the "force field"
A quarter of military helicopter pilots have reported it.External Quote:Giant Hand Illusion, in which a pilot can feel as though the aircraft is unresponsive to inputs, as if held aloft by a giant hand.