Skyderalert mobile app and "LOOK UP" - New Documentary

scombrid

Senior Member.

"Look UP" The Winning Documentary of the Op Paul Revere contest. It's creator implements an App that can be used on IOS and Android and allows people to capture chemtrails and have them compiled and sent to lawmakers in order to create awareness.

This is a new type of documentary NEVER DONE BEFORE. By using the patented mobile app, SkyderALERT, people will have the ability to capture visual evidence of this potentially catastrophic activity, petition against it, and send the evidence directly to the appropriate government officials-- all in 1 click. You do not need to know who those officials are, or even where you are. Your position is automatically geo-located to ensure that the appropriate elected officials are selected for your state, city or district. SkyderALERT will even let you call your congress people, senators or governor directly... all by just using the app.

One: Wouldn't that automatic geolocation give your average conspiracy theorist pause? Hell, it gives me pause. What if the app isn't really messaging officials but is mining data for whomever created the app?

Two, this could reallly get annoying for public officials if the app works and people start sending them tons of pictures of clouds and contrails.

Three, it could also provide data on how widespread belief is by seeing how many officials get harrassed.

Four, who is backing this nonsense and why?
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
One: Wouldn't that automatic geolocation give your average conspiracy theorist pause? Hell, it gives me pause. What if the app isn't really messaging officials but is mining data for whomever created the app?


Four, who is backing this nonsense and why?

This is an Alex Jones Project:



Designed by TPTB, Skyderalert is a "Shooting Gallery" designed to identify, track, and subject chemtrails advocates to advanced transhumanistic re-programming.
It combines GPS tracking capabilities with the Morgellons nanofiber network and EMF control of the user through the cellphone transmission.

In effect, the users become both paying customers and robotic zombie slaves at the same time. Their geolocations are fed into a constant activity database along with all contacts, photos, associations and interests. This allows minute-by-minute database updating, continuous monitoring/control of action and availability for targeting by aerial drones.

In other words,
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:rolleyes:
 

HappyMonday

Moderator
Ah. A forthcoming Infowars backed doc on Chemtrails.

Explains why the authorities on the subject are trying so hard to protect their reputation's from the nasty debunkers of late.

Big Al will no doubt be recruiting some specialist reporters.
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
Wouldn't the email filters at the various officials offices take care of the "spam" after a day or so?

Yes, of course the emails probably don't go to the officials at all, just into the Central Scrutinizer database for keyword archiving purposes.
The users need this sort of catharsis, it makes them "feel good" as if they were doing some good, while what is really happening is they are turned into zombified Alex Jones clones, and pay into the process at the same time. :eek:
 

tryblinking

Senior Member.
That contest was genius- the best part was the mode of entry: upload to YouTube, one other video hosting site, and lastly send to his address. So before he's even begun assessing the quality of these videos paid for and made by other people, they are out there spreading from at least two public video hosting sites. 115 Grand gets a lot of interest, so he was clearly hoping to flood the internet with his favourite brand of liberty propaganda.

Didn't see much tho, did you?
That's certainly one way to waste $115,000...
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
Well, "Look UP" is maybe one entry in Alex Jones's "Paul Revere" competition.

I am trying to determine if #SkyderALERT is anti geoengineering, or anti persistent contrails.
 

scombrid

Senior Member.
Someone out there has downloaded the skyderalert app:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKWo9YuUOtA

If you skip to 2:30 or so you get to hear her simultaneously state that the trails are geoengineering to cool the planet (which she says is backfiring) and part of Monsanto's plot to spread aluminum all over the place to favor their aluminum resistent seed.

Oh, and she linked to a video about a "Former Air Force Sargent Turned Chemtrail Whistleblower".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71dO1TOLGk&feature=youtu.be

None of the debunking seems to be taking.
 

jvnk08

Senior Member.
I made a new thread about it as I didn't know of this thread at the time, but there is a Kickstarter for this documentary now. They're seeking $200,000:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/869502189/look-up-eco-threat-to-mankind-linked-to-artificial

At first I was surprised they managed to get $3k from 11 backers, which is a pretty strong yield from so few backers in comparison to other projects, however after another 5 days they've only managed to pull in another $200 or so. I think it's safe to say they won't be reaching their funding threshold.
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
It's crowd-sourced, hi-tech email and phone harassment of Govt representatives, based on a false premise.

Prediction: It will get the creators into serious trouble.
 

jvnk08

Senior Member.
It's crowd-sourced, hi-tech email and phone harassment of Govt representatives, based on a false premise.

Prediction: It will get the creators into serious trouble.


If they even get that far. They need to raise $196,883 in the next 15 days to get the money. Or does the app already exist in the wild?
 

HappyMonday

Moderator
If you skip to 2:30 or so you get to hear her simultaneously state that the trails are geoengineering to cool the planet (which she says is backfiring) and part of Monsanto's plot to spread aluminum all over the place to favor their aluminum resistent seed.

Oh, and she linked to a video about a "Former Air Force Sargent Turned Chemtrail Whistleblower".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q71dO1TOLGk&feature=youtu.be

None of the debunking seems to be taking.

Not with those who already believe it, but I like to think it's quietly deflecting those who might, and reassuring some of those who've become needlessly concerned.

I realised that there can't be any genuine intellectual understanding underpinning the chemtrail claims like those you quoted, the like of which I see every day online, so it doesn't surprise me that believers just repeat five of the last ten things they heard about the subject, like the Monsanto AND global warming links in the same sentence.

If they ever actually come to understand the basis for their claims, they won't make them. It's why I've largely stopped arguing with many of them.
 

cloudspotter

Senior Member.
I see that SkyderAlert are now offering hair sample analysis for $55 after one persons aluminium levels went from a high 5ug/g to a staggering 18! - they are quoting safe levels being between 0 - 2.2.

They're also asking for donations. Maybe sales of the app aren't going as well as hoped or they're just greedy.
 

Danny55

Senior Member.
The youtube video has been taken down ""'LOOK UP' -- New Documentar..." The YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated due to multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement."
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
I registered on the SkyderALERT web site about 2 weeks ago, and on 13 Jun 2013 I received this email from SkyderALERT info@skyderalert.com


Does anyone know about what is "normal" with these tests, and what is the range of variability?
What can influence the metal content of your hair?
He seems to have missed the significance of the lowering of Barium concentration.
 

JFDee

Senior Member.
Just - wow!

That story - including the suit against Quackwatch - is leaving me virtually speechless.

Yet annother thing to make 'chemtrail metal' believers aware of: "Can you trust your doctor and your lab?"

We are trying to point people to science, and in the next sentence we have to tell them that there may be fraudulent scientists predating on their anxiety ...
 

Belfrey

Senior Member.
More information about Doctor's Data lab tests from quackwatch, including info specifically about their hair tests: Doctor's Data Facing Multiple Lawsuits

 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
I had better email my friend George back and warn him that he is dealing with some dodgy doctors.
Perhaps I should invite him over for dinner to tell him. ;)
 

Jay Reynolds

Senior Member.
Doctor's Data rather completely debunks the reliability of their hair tests:

Hair, however, is vulnerable to external elemental contamination by means of certain shampoos, bleaches, dyes, and curing or straightening treatments. Therefore, the first step in the interpretation of a hair element report is to rule out sources of external contamination.
http://www.doctorsdata.com/test_info.asp?id=143

The subject of hair analysis was looked at here some time ago. We found that especially for aluminum, a common soil element which can easily contaminate hair, this sort of analysis is worthless. A survey of multiple labs and even within the same lab using the same hair yielded inconsistent results .

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/1005-Hair-Analysis-–-It’s-Lack-of-Utility
 
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Skyder ALERT

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1- if you have a cell phone you can be located... so if that aspect of the app "gives you pause" then you're both ignorant and paranoid.

2- it is the civic duty of every american to communicate their concerns to elected officials, regardless of what those concerns are, the app makes it possible for citizens concerned with persistent contrails and their effect on the climate and environment to voice those concerns.

3- yes the concern is widespread-- and much wider spread than the few debunkers that are out there.. communication is not harassment. it is the job of elected officials to review concerns of their constituents.

4- i am backing this initiative, because i believe that geo-engineering and its unknown side effects, as stated by President Obamas chief science advisor John Hodren that geo engineering can be detrimental to the environment and pose problems and side effects more severe than the issue it is trying to resolve.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-6Tit0T1E



One: Wouldn't that automatic geolocation give your average conspiracy theorist pause? Hell, it gives me pause. What if the app isn't really messaging officials but is mining data for whomever created the app?

Two, this could reallly get annoying for public officials if the app works and people start sending them tons of pictures of clouds and contrails.

Three, it could also provide data on how widespread belief is by seeing how many officials get harrassed.

Four, who is backing this nonsense and why?
 

Mick West

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2- it is the civic duty of every american to communicate their concerns to elected officials, regardless of what those concerns are, the app makes it possible for citizens concerned with persistent contrails and their effect on the climate and environment to voice those concerns.

But that's not what the app is about, is it? It's about "chemtrails", and a supposed program of covert geoengineering.

So why exactly would people send in photos of persistent contrails? How is that helping?

3- yes the concern is widespread-- and much wider spread than the few debunkers that are out there.. communication is not harassment. it is the job of elected officials to review concerns of their constituents.
Slightly more widespread than a belief in secret shape-shifting reptile overlords. Significantly less than a belief in bigfoot, and secret mind control over television. About the same as the concern that Paul McCartney is an impostor.
Source: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_National_ConspiracyTheories_040213.pdf

4- i am backing this initiative, because i believe that geo-engineering and its unknown side effects, as stated by President Obamas chief science advisor John Hodren that geo engineering can be detrimental to the environment and pose problems and side effects more severe than the issue it is trying to resolve.
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Which is why nobody is doing it.
 

Skyder ALERT

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there are no copyright infringements..

-- man-- you guys are the king of misinformation.. i can't believe what im seeing. at first i had some respect for your posts.. now i see its just non sence.
 

mynym

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Banned
Four, who is backing this nonsense and why?

It's a conspiracy of meteorologists to collect more data on clouds and this is the only way to get people to take pictures of them? Just kidding.

Usually it's actually groups of true believers backing things, etc. I'm not sure why that's often hard for people to believe... unless they can't imagine things from a different perspective.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
there are no copyright infringements..

-- man-- you guys are the king of misinformation.. i can't believe what im seeing. at first i had some respect for your posts.. now i see its just non sence.

What are you referring to?

Please use "Reply with Quote" if you want to reply to a particular post.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
It's a conspiracy of meteorologists to collect more data on clouds and this is the only way to get people to take pictures of them? Just kidding.

That actually might not be a bad idea. George, could you release the data into the public domain, for science?
 

Skyder ALERT

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no- you said the app is about chemtrails..not me. the app is to enable people to communicate concerns over geo engineering, and persistent contrail creation is a stated method of implementation. It is intended to raise awareness to the term geo engineering, and communicate that voters are aware of the issue and concerned about the negative health consequences of it.

3.
i dont understand what you are trying to say here.

4.
i wish you were right. plus, it sure would end the concerns over governance issues published in multiple peer reviews... i mean why would harvard, the IPCC and so many other respected publications spend their time on something that doesn't exist?
 

Mick West

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no- you said the app is about chemtrails..not me. the app is to enable people to communicate concerns over geo engineering, and persistent contrail creation is a stated method of implementation. It is intended to raise awareness to the term geo engineering, and communicate that voters are aware of the issue and concerned about the negative health consequences of it.

So you are just trying to avoid using the term "chemtrails" then? Even though it's all over your site, and quite clearly what you are referring to.

3.
i dont understand what you are trying to say here.
I'm saying it's really not a very popular concern. 5% of the population believes in everything.

4.
i wish you were right. plus, it sure would end the concerns over governance issues published in multiple peer reviews... i mean why would harvard, the IPCC and so many other respected publications spend their time on something that doesn't exist?

Because it might be needed in the future, or some other country might try to do it.

Do you have any evidence that there is an active spraying geoengineering program? Any evidence that the persistent trails you see are not just persistent contrails?

Why are you asking people to take photos of persistent contrails?
 
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