Santa Monica College (SMC) Shooting near Obama visit

Mick West

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This is just two miles away from me.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Santa-Monica-College-Gunman-Shooting-210614151.html

It's in very busy location, so I'd expect lots of photos and video.

There's also a house fire that seems related, possible dead bodies inside.

I'm posting this in "Conspiracy Theories", due to the inevitable "False Flag" conspiracy theories that will be raised.
 

Soulfly

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Looks like bullet holes to me.

Lots of reports for use of an assault type weapon also. Nothing officially announced yet though.
 

Mick West

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Playing internet detective, the house on fire is 2036 Yorkshire Ave, Santa Monica. Owned by Samir S. Zawahri.

Before:


After:


Out of towners may be amused to learn that such a house goes for around $775,000
 
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Mick West

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http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/06/fire-near-santa-monica-college-shooting-dad-found-in-house/

The man in his 50's MIGHT be Samir Zawahri (age 55 according to blockshopper.com. Unique name in the US, so easy to look up).

(Conspiracy connection: "Zawahri" is an alternate spelling of the family name of Al Queda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.)

Then again, Zawahri might just be the landlord.
 

Soulfly

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Only 1.2 miles from the school. If the fire happened before the school shooting then it could be the same shooter. It has not been confirmed yet but a witness said they saw what appeared to be the shooter dead at the school.
 

Soulfly

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How does an attempted break in result in a fire? Seems odd.
I guess if you break in, end up killing the owners and start the fire to cover your tracks.
 

Mick West

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How does an attempted break in result in a fire? Seems odd.
I guess if you break in, end up killing the owners and start the fire to cover your tracks.
Purely hypothetical - the killer might be one of the sons.
 

Mick West

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There's a related incident a bit to the South now. Centinela and Palms. I can hear the helicopters as I type this. Tons of cops apparently.
 

Mick West

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About a mile from here 15 min ago.




(More local amusement - check out the sidewalk - they are all like that round there).
 
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Soulfly

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Suspect confirmed shot dead by police at the school. Male white between 25-35 years of age. No name given yet.
 

Joe

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Jun 07, 2013 [Part 7] -- Santa Monica Shootings (SkyCam Raw Footage)<strong>
 

BlueDream

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Any word on the second suspect? The Asian male that was detained to be specific. My first thoughts were that he had a gun but was not shooting random/innocent people, as in trying to defend himself. No news source has confirmed he shot at all just that he was detained. CNN just said they are still trying to get word on the same question I have.
 

ChupaChena

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It most possibly can be him...Samir S. Zawahri and a woman he was married to on New Year's Eve of 1985 in LA County, Randa A. Abdou, only had two sons. Christopher Samir Zawahri born 8/06/1987 and John Samir Zawahri born 06/08/1989 (yes, his birthday is tomorrow). Both sons were born in Los Angeles County.
 

Soulfly

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Any word on the second suspect? The Asian male that was detained to be specific. My first thoughts were that he had a gun but was not shooting random/innocent people, as in trying to defend himself. No news source has confirmed he shot at all just that he was detained. CNN just said they are still trying to get word on the same question I have.
The 'person of interest' had a valid reason for being on campus and was released after it was determined he was not involved.
 

Mick West

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Neighbor confirms shooter was one of the two sons. Older son, possibly called "Chris".

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/video/...d-Home-Saw-Gunman-in-SWAT-Like-Gear/210643671

Possibly Christopher Samir Zawahri, aged 25.
Somewhat confirmed
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...onica-shooting-spree-20130608,0,4640970.story
Also a good account here:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/california-college-gunman/index.html
 

Mick West

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Got the brothers the wrong way round, shooter is John, other brother Chris is a victim:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...ntified-john-zawahri-20130608,0,1143675.story

 

Mick West

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Which will probably lead to conspiracy comparisons with Adam Lanza, and initial reports that it was his brother who was the shooter.

The "Chris" part came for the interview with the neighbor, who obviously just got the names wrong.
 

Soulfly

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They have done everything but say the name of the shooter. Next of kin have yet to be notified. I'm sure the delay will fuel fires.
 

Pete Tar

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This seems a strange thing to say, or is it attempting to push an agenda that portray's 'liberal openness' as allowing the dangerously mentally ill to walk free?
 

Mick West

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This seems a strange thing to say, or is it attempting to push an agenda that portray's 'liberal openness' as allowing the dangerously mentally ill to walk free?
I lived in Santa Monica for 15 years (and now I just live a mile south of it). It's certainly liberal, but I'm not sure what the "openness" would mean. We don't keel-haul gays? It sounds more like them portraying the event as a culture shock, a "I never thought it could happen here" type thing. A wake-up call to those pinko liberals that freedom isn't free, or something.
 

Mackdog

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California has the strictest gun laws in the country, yet there still manages to be people that go on shooting sprees....more proof that gun control does nothing to prevent tragedies like this.
 

Soulfly

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California has the strictest gun laws in the country, yet there still manages to be people that go on shooting sprees....more proof that gun control does nothing to prevent tragedies like this.
What is needed to back up the strict gun law is stricter punishments for those who commit crimes with guns.
 

Mick West

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The expected conspiracy theories:
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...-appear-to-be-another-false-flag-2677394.html

 

Soulfly

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http://beforeitsnews.com/alternativ...-appear-to-be-another-false-flag-2677394.html
This pistol looks like it could be a conversion, meaning it looks old but fires modern ammunition.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army-navy-conversion-and-open-top.php
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Was it ever reported that the box came along for the shooting spree? I can't see the shooter wanting to carry it around.
 

Mick West

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And why on earth would some mentally ill person bringing an odd selection of guns to a school shooting mean that it was staged?

And the other bit of "evidence" - the shoes next to the body were not the same as a boot somewhere else. What is supposed to have happened here?
 

Soulfly

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0614-santa-monica-shooting-20130614,0,7978148.story
Just as I thought.
 

Mick West

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I made a map showing where the various photos are:



The gunman's body is by a brand new bike parking lot on Pearl St, which does not currently show up in Google Maps.

The boot and blood photo is about 100 feet North West of that point. The boots probably belong to the janitor who was shot. The cart with cans belongs to the can collector lady who got shot.
 
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Soulfly

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This could be used to push new gun laws and could be used as "proof" to some, of a false flag type operation if used to push those new laws.
 
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