Reward to catch people who point lasers at planes

solrey

Senior Member.
Pointing lasers at planes has become such a problem in the US that the FBI is now offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of persons who point lasers at planes. There is evidence in the form of 'confessions' that at least a portion of the increase in these incidents is driven by the chemtrail myth.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...reward-20140211,0,6309917.story#axzz2t4YlMvgc

 

Rns

Member
Pointing lasers at planes has become such a problem in the US that the FBI is now offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of persons who point lasers at planes. There is evidence in the form of 'confessions' that at least a portion of the increase in these incidents is driven by the chemtrail myth.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...reward-20140211,0,6309917.story#axzz2t4YlMvgc

Just as often if not more often it is UFO cultist types promoting such.

This is a video taken at a "UFO ranch" and the lasers are promoted by the "owner" of said ranch.

I have tried for years to get him to stop but he is an ascended master alien ambassador or some such self proclaimed title.

You can see in this particular video that it is indeed a quite normal aircraft by the strobes.

 

Rns

Member
I bet they will see this as the NWO trying to stop them.
In the case of James Gilliland the owner of the ECETI UFO ranch I was indeed labelled a NWO shill for asking him to please use his head and stop telling people to shoot lasers at random lights in the sky.
:rolleyes:
 

David Fraser

Senior Member.
I would be tempted to buy my kids laser pens for Christmas, tell them to go wave them around at the sky and then ring the FBI. Kerching. $$$
 

Rns

Member
I would be tempted to buy my kids laser pens for Christmas, tell them to go wave them around at the sky and then ring the FBI. Kerching. $$$
So it's worth 1000 bucks to get rid of your kids for 5 years?

$10,000 reward and "five years and an $11,000 fine"
 

Hama Neggs

Senior Member.
In the case of James Gilliland the owner of the ECETI UFO ranch I was indeed labelled a NWO shill for asking him to please use his head and stop telling people to shoot lasers at random lights in the sky.
:rolleyes:
I actually visited Gilliland's place some years ago. They seemed to think that just about anything passing overhead was an alien craft. Iridium flares really got them going. :rolleyes: Back then they were shining flashlights at everything and asking for responses from the 'craft'. It was a weird place. He was trying to promote paid visits there by people who wished to have "contact".
 

Rns

Member
I actually visited Gilliland's place some years ago. They seemed to think that just about anything passing overhead was an alien craft. Iridium flares really got them going. :rolleyes: Back then they were shining flashlights at everything and asking for responses from the 'craft'. It was a weird place. He was trying to promote paid visits there by people who wished to have "contact".
That is his bag.

He is quite the piece of work and eventually will be thoroughly debunked.

My main issue with him is he STILL is promoting "communicating" with UFOs (any light in the sky) with not just low power dollar store lasers but quite larger units.

He is a danger to himself and everyone else with his beliefs of all manner of out there stuff.

Nice guy but an accident waiting to become a tragedy he is.

To be fair to him I think he got the laser idea from some other UFO ambassador trainer or some such Greer or Webre or some such but he has been the most prominent in promoting such laser usage over the internet.

Addendum:
I almost forgot he is hard core chemmie crusader as well

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=199063
His user name at that site "eaglespirit"
 
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cloudspotter

Senior Member.
My main issue with him is he STILL is promoting "communicating" with UFOs (any light in the sky) with not just low power dollar store lasers but quite larger units.

He is a danger to himself and everyone else with his beliefs of all manner of out there stuff.

Nice guy but an accident waiting to become a tragedy he is.
So you don't fancy earning yourself ten grand?
 

Rns

Member
So you don't fancy earning yourself ten grand?
It's one of those nebulous gray areas I guess.

It is hard to tell just what he actually believes but I doubt very highly his intent is to lase planes.

I should contact the FAA but I doubt any reward in this instance as it is more a case of ego stroked ignorance than intentional malice.
 

cloudspotter

Senior Member.
It's one of those nebulous gray areas I guess.

It is hard to tell just what he actually believes but I doubt very highly his intent is to lase planes.

I should contact the FAA but I doubt any reward in this instance as it is more a case of ego stroked ignorance than intentional malice.
Is he shining lasers at planes?
 

Rns

Member
Is he shining lasers at planes?
Did you watch the video I linked?

The disturbing part is the title of a "UFO" ""REFLECTING" a laser.

He is in a place where it is easy to spot all manner of space junk as well as large numbers of satellites.

My hesitation regards his personality as if he is indeed made to stop and made to understand his responsibility he has always in the past spun such actions as being him being persecuted which makes him more popular and brings in yet more donations.

I am surprised that the military has not already visited him as there is an air base not too too far from him.

He doesn't understand his responsibility in suggesting to others to use lasers to "communicate" with "aliens" and has no way of knowing just where someone would do such and in what circumstances.

That is the issue with UFO hard core believers mistaking aircraft in landing patterns for UFOs as pointing a laser at aircraft coming in head on at closer range is far worse than the video scenario.
 
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Rns

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Well after checking my own intention and weighing everything I made a report online.

Hopefully he can be talked out of promoting shooting lasers at unknown lights in the sky by the FAA.

I just realized I made a report to the FAA if they don't respond I guess I will make a report to the FBI.

I am still not all that comfortable acting as a paid informant but that wasn't my point anyway.
 
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Jason

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So it's worth 1000 bucks to get rid of your kids for 5 years?

$10,000 reward and "five years and an $11,000 fine"
Thats just crazy. People do the stupidest things some times without ever realizing the consequences of their actions.
Well after checking my own intention and weighing everything I made a report online.

Hopefully he can be talked out of promoting shooting lasers at unknown lights in the sky by the FAA.

I just realized I made a report to the FAA if they don't respond I guess I will make a report to the FBI.

I am still not all that comfortable acting as a paid informant but that wasn't my point anyway.
I would definitely report it to the FBI, I mean come on we're talking about 10 grand.
 

Rns

Member
Thats just crazy. People do the stupidest things some times without ever realizing the consequences of their actions.

I would definitely report it to the FBI, I mean come on we're talking about 10 grand.
Well in past conversations with him there were pilots in the thread so I figured someone would have enlightened him.

I had not really thought about it until I read this thread and when I checked he is still promoting it.

If I don't get an email response from FAA I will do the FBI tomorrow I guess.

Sometimes people don't pay attention to such reports until it is too late.

His supporters in the thread at the time were calling me an old woman but I saw potential disaster.
 

Jason

Senior Member
His supporters in the thread at the time were calling me an old woman but I saw potential disaster.
Well in past conversations with him there were pilots in the thread so I figured someone would have enlightened him.

I had not really thought about it until I read this thread and when I checked he is still promoting it.

If I don't get an email response from FAA I will do the FBI tomorrow I guess.

Sometimes people don't pay attention to such reports until it is too late.

His supporters in the thread at the time were calling me an old woman but I saw potential disaster.
I wouldn't hesitate to be honest with you. It would be a real shame if you lost the 10k, but honestly I wouldn't worry about it because the odds of the FAA contacting you or doing something about this promptly are pretty low. I would imagine anyway
 

Rns

Member
I have had lack of response on similar reports many times.

I am not to worried about the money aspect anyway though I like so many others could use it.

From reading that piece tough it looks like they are trying to make a bit of a media circus possibly which I am in no way interested in.

I was quite friendly with a person who had left the Heavens Gate group before they made their exit and he and others outside the group had tried to get the followers to use common sense and research.

The off part about that whole mess is that the ones who were instrumental in pushing Marshal over the edge with tales of remote viewing a space craft in the comet are still around and back at what they do.
 

Mick West

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Staff member
Update on a couple of sentences:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ntenced-to-nearly-two-years-for-laser-strike/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...two-helicopters-to-face-14-years-behind-bars/
 

Jason

Senior Member
Update on a couple of sentences:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...ntenced-to-nearly-two-years-for-laser-strike/
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...two-helicopters-to-face-14-years-behind-bars/
It's about time the Federal Government is finally doing something to protect pilots from these laser pointers being fired at them. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know off hand if there have any been accidents or threatening instances due to these laser pointers...
 

Hevach

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It's about time the Federal Government is finally doing something to protect pilots from these laser pointers being fired at them. Just out of curiosity, does anyone know off hand if there have any been accidents or threatening instances due to these laser pointers...
According to Wikipedia, the closest incidents were in 1995 involving a Las Vegas laser light shows too close to the airport. The FDA had approved the shows because the lasers were far enough away that flash blindness or eye damage were unlikely, but pilots complained that they were distracting and made discerning signal lights more difficult. No serious incidents as a result, just some annoyed pilots.

But there have been near misses created intentionally under controlled conditions. There was a Dutch study in 2009 or 2010 that intentionally created unsafe conditions for helicopter pilots using truck mounted searchlights, heavy duty flashlights, and 3.5 miliwatt green laser pointers for comparison, and found that some pilots were unable to safely fly their craft after making eye contact with the beam, and while the truck mounted searchlights also caused difficulty, their beams could be seen coming and avoided, laser beams were only visible when they were already striking the helicopter.
 
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