Reddit UFO 3 lights in the sky Ohio [Plane Landing Lights]

jarlrmai

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I'm on holiday with no access to my computer but this Reddit one looks fun.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/ybJpFKmQbr

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https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1A8GVx90YDkOM8iJB_NI634tY6_WG8bag

The information OP gave so far: Location is SouthWest Ohio, date 10/11/24, filmed at night, located in the South East part of the sky.

That building might be geo locatable.

Sorry I'm not going to be much help as I have no PC.
 
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My first impression was military helicopters with bright directional lights. They turn one by one to their right (our left). When they turn, the directional lights become dimmer.
 


If this same event (at 11:00 in this video) were witnessed at night by someone who was unaware that these were distant aircraft, we might get this kind of eye witness testimony:

One object on the left was moving fast, and about 5 others were just hovering. They were close, just a few hundred feet. They couldn't have been aircraft because there was no noise.

What's actually happening:
They are distant so what we hear are chirping birds, radio chatter and a still camera clicking. The helicopter on our left is traveling across our line of sight and the others are traveling along our line of sight, but they are all probably traveling at the same airspeed.

The next scene (11:10) might be described:
There were about 10 of them drifting very slowly to the left, just over the treetops on the edge of the meadow.

What's actually happening:
They are flying at speed toward a point somewhat to our left. At night witnesses might not notice the motion along their line of sight, but only notice the motion across their line of sight. They might believe these are small nearby objects drifting slowly sideways to the left.


These aircraft are distant, which is apparent in daylight but at night they would just be lights in a dark sky and may be misperceived as being smaller, closer objects. Because of parallax effects and perspective distortion, distant objects are liable to be perceived as moving in two dimensions - across our line of sight only, rather than in their true 3 dimensional motions. Motion along our line of sight is less apparent than motion across our line of sight.

A single witness or a small group at night in isolation (lonely, spooky setting) see lights in the sky doing odd things. They get spooked, which alters their perceptions, they want to believe they lived through a mysterious (entertaining) happening, etc.
 
That building might be geo locatable.
I think I have found it. It is likely the "Crossroads Church West Side" in Cincinnati: https://maps.app.goo.gl/QdXmWgyydcFZKwUe8

Unfortunately the Google Street View images are pretty bad but the location of the trees, the yellow street borders and the form of the windows seem to fit.
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Another hint is the top of the power line tower showing behind the building.
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It lines up nicely with a powerline behind the Crossroads Church West Side:
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The line of sight is also directly pointing towards the "Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport".
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Pretty sure that the comment of the poster on Reddit could be questioned.
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[...] No blinking lights like a drone should have To far from the airport and nowhere in the direction it was for there to be any sort of aircraft I'm at a loss for what I saw lol
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1g2c0v5/comment/lrnhe3a/
 
Seriously, how many times to people on reddit or people in UFO chasing specialty vehicles point their cameras at an airport, record lights and declare "it can't be a plane"? Being a pilot or ATC guy must be almost impossible with all the non-aircraft constantly buzzing around known airports.
 
I think I have found it. It is likely the "Crossroads Church West Side" in Cincinnati: https://maps.app.goo.gl/QdXmWgyydcFZKwUe8

Unfortunately the Google Street View images are pretty bad but the location of the trees, the yellow street borders and the form of the windows seem to fit.

Using the 3D building in Google Earth gives a perfect fit. Trees, road, and all.

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Time and date in the video matches these three planes, in that it's just after they did the turn to the NE

It seems to be an android phone, and I'm not sure how the timestamps work there.


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From the filname of the video we can work out that the video was recorded at 2024 October 11, 2015pm
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This works out as 0015am on 12 October UTC
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Checking ADSB playback for that time we can see that there were 3 planes lining up to land at Cincinatti Airport
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Using @Ridcully 's geolaction to 39.16140097126855, -84.72519954232908 we can check how that would look in 3d in GoogleEarth...

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Ah, @Mick West - you beat me to it!
Sorry!

It's an interesting example of the power of perspective compression. Really great "hovering" and then "flying off".

Like this:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/so...ctive-foreshortening-contrails-and-ufos.8898/
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Also interesting how well received it was on Reddit. Various people interpret them as "orbs",
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Three glowing orbs in a triangle? If only there was a book about this.... OH there is. You should read Quantum Paranormal by Patrick Jackson.

and there's this from the OP:
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u/ffrogge81
Mar 19, 2023

They spun around then first light dimmed and started moving and disappeared...few minutes later the second dimmed then moved off horizontally to the east.but could see them till they went out of view behind trees, didnt disappearlike the first one...few minutes later the final one did the same...8 mins or so total.. do have a full video trying to figure out how to upload. 1 light appeared in the same spot 6 more times Over the next few hours and would then dim move to the east.. No noise. No blinking lights like a drone should have To far from the airport and nowhere in the direction it was for there to be any sort of aircraft I'm at a loss for what I saw lol
Other people saying they saw it before:
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This is exactly what I saw about 9-10 years ago over Georgian bay in Ontario at about 2:30 am!!!
Others getting excited:
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This one is fricken crazy. I don't know what the hell that could be honestly. I am deliriously sick but I'd like to hear the explanation.
Some recognizing it:
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I've got a friend who lives on the southern side of Portland, OR. He's got a great view, you can see for miles. I'll be hanging out, looking at the view and suddenly a stationary light will appear out of nowhere. Sometimes a line of 3 or 4. It's planes from California turning lights on approaching the city. Since they're coming nearly directly south they appear perfectly stationary. Most of the lights eventually divert off going either left or right, flying around the city. Some are coming in for landing, others continuing to Seattle. I remember the first time seeing it wondering wtf it was, I even commented that it looked like UFOs.

This video reminds me a lot of that, especially how the lights divert off.
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Do you live near an airport? I live near Frankfurt Airport in Germany and the "waiting line" of the approach lane looks the same at night when the planes slowly glide in.
 
The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
 
The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
They are currently enjoying being the OP of a 1k+ upvoted thread, and probably didn't read the thread to realise they've been geolocated so just kneejerked the reaction.
 
Quick sitrec (it's got some bugs in at the moment with changing the length of the sitch, so you need to scrub through it with the start time menu)

https://www.metabunk.org/u/oeo13d.html

It does not get the triangle shape, which also does not appear in the video. He mentions seeing more lights later, there were multiple planes on the same approach.

Here's one with the shorter video in. Still need to fix the bug (and the horizon being wonky at the start)
https://www.metabunk.org/u/TuTler.html
 
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The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
Lunken airport, although not nearly as busy, is pretty much directly east of their location. I have no idea if it would be visible from his viewpoint. Might he be completely turned around as to directions? Or, as you say, "Assuming he's being honest..."
 
The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
maybe he goes West to get to the airport and doesnt realize when he changes highways he is now going east? I rarely know what direction anything is in my local area unless its a town that borders NY then i know that town is south or west of me.

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Wonder why you haven't before
 
Quick sitrec (it's got some bugs in at the moment with changing the length of the sitch, so you need to scrub through it with the start time menu)

https://www.metabunk.org/u/oeo13d.html

It does not get the triangle shape, which also does not appear in the video. He mentions seeing more lights later, there were multiple planes on the same approach.

Here's one with the shorter video in. Still need to fix the bug (and the horizon being wonky at the start)
https://www.metabunk.org/u/TuTler.html

FWIW CVG is a cargo hub for both DHL & Amazon. There is a lot of air traffic in and out of that aiport.
 
Unfortunately the Google Street View images are pretty bad but the location of the trees, the yellow street borders and the form of the windows seem to fit.
it looks like they redid their parking lot between 2021 and now. but the building is def identical. the little white rectangle "bricks", i think that might be the power tower (green arrow), and possibly the same red truck.

full size: https://www.facebook.com/crsrdswest...40243042.-2207520000/1228511994233083/?type=3

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Several comments about the "tr3b." First I'm hearing about this. Supposed to be a reverse engineered triangular craft. Reverse engineered from crashed saucer tech, of course.

Something Allan Hendry noted in 1979. People speculate about the wildest thing they can think of... everything but the mundane truth of what the object really is.

It must be an extraordinary craft, since it splits up into there different parts.
 
Several comments about the "tr3b." First I'm hearing about this. Supposed to be a reverse engineered triangular craft. Reverse engineered from crashed saucer tech, of course.

Something Allan Hendry noted in 1979. People speculate about the wildest thing they can think of... everything but the mundane truth of what the object really is.

It must be an extraordinary craft, since it splits up into there different parts.

The TR-3A/B is an old urban legend in military aviation circles. It was originally claimed to be a partner for the F-117 meant to serve as a platform to designate targets for the Nighthawk.

The name/designation goes back to an Aviation Week article from the early 90's. It was claimed to be a Northrop product, with no alien/UFO connection.

It's been theorized that the term TR-3 comes from misunderstanding the phrase "Tier 3" which was used to designate classified drone surveillance programs.
 
maybe he goes West to get to the airport and doesnt realize when he changes highways he is now going east?
It is not uncommon for highways to be labeled something like "I-70 West", meaning if you continue on that route you will be going west, eventually. But any given segment might be going in any direction, as roads loop around and connect with other highways. If a person is more familiar with the signage than with the map, his sense of direction could be pretty poor.
 
The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
Does he know which airport you're talking about?

He says "The airport." But that's generic. Maybe he's thinking of a different airport.
 
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The Reddit OP seems unconvinced:
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100000% not planes in an approach pattern The airport is the opposite direction. And would be towards the W not SE They cross from NE to SW to make the approach to cvg. Sorry not planes
I wonder what's going on there. Assuming he's being honest, how could he be this confused about what direction the airport is in?
More likely he's confused about where he himself is, as the airport is in fact west of Cincinnati.
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One other airport that might be involved is the Wilmington Air Park, maybe 40 air miles ENE of the Cleves church. The Air Park, a one time USAF base, is a hub for Amazon Prime and other cargo airlines. It's also a depot level maintenance/logistics facility where post-maintenance functional check flights are conducted both day and night.

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The Wilmington Air Park is an integrated Aviation and Logistics Business Park located on 1,900 acres in central Ohio. The Air Park features nearly 3 million square feet of industrial, office and hangar space. It is strategically located between Cincinnati, Columbus and Dayton, Ohio. With easy access to I-71, it also is within 50-70 miles of three international passenger-service airports. As a fully functional airport with two runways, (9,000 x 150 ft. and 10,701 x 150 ft.) and CAT III instrument approach, the Wilmington Air Park can land as large as 747-class aircrafts. A PPR FORM is required for landing at the Wilmington Air Park.

The Wilmington Air Park provides flexibility in landing schedules, plentiful aprons, on-site aircraft maintenance, Foreign Trade Zone Designation and an array of state and local incentive programs. Aerospace and cargo companies find Wilmington Air Park an ideal location to locate their business
https://www.wilmingtonairpark.com/

My daughter lives about half way between the church and the Air Park as the crow flies, the place is pretty busy from early evening (arrivals) through midnight-1am (departures.) Granted, it's a bit distant from the church, but depending on winds and ATC, some of the a/c going to/from Wilmington could be involved.
 
I see now that cvg is the name of he airport. It should be CVG, and it stands for CoVinGton; the nearest city at the time it was first in operation.
 
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