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Bob

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I'm not here to debate the whole chem/con thing but was wondering something else.

Is the chemtrail movement causing such a stir that this site needed to be made?
Are pilots not able to fly?
Are protests clogging airports?
Is crop- DUSTING being affected?

Whats the general dilemma?
 
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Bob

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Ok, well good luck with that.
Just remember to smell some of the roses along the way.
Often one looks foolish when debating fools... But I'm sure you already have heard that one.

I read all the posts on this forum, it didn't take too long.

I'm going outside now. It's nice today.
 
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I live in an area that contains a high percentage of chemtrail true believers, due to the evangelical efforts of a couple of people. What strikes me is that it is such a waste of energy. We have so many real environmental and political problems to worry about, such as we may be headed toward a catastrophic war with Iran. How many chemtrailers have written their congressman about this? Plus, I get tired of listening to all of the smug people who are totally sure this is happening. I appreciate a site that gives me good information with which to talk to people about this.
 

scombrid

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I'm not here to debate the whole chem/con thing but was wondering something else.

Is the chemtrail movement causing such a stir that this site needed to be made?
Are pilots not able to fly?
Are protests clogging airports?
Is crop- DUSTING being affected?

Whats the general dilemma?

Actually, some chemtrailers have been harrassing pilots. Mostly they've been clogging up some county government public meetings (Suffolk County NY, Alachua FL, etc...). Plus if the bunk gets wide spread enough they could have a real deleterious effect like the anti-vaccine and anti-flouride movements.
 

scombrid

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Then you have people like this poor lady who has been taken in by the HAARP Weather Modification Conspiracy, Chemtrails, and several other "theories". Weather radar and satellite has been completely freaking her out because the conspiracy nuts have told her that anything that looks "abnormal" is weather manipulation. Dutchsinse and other scammers are undoubtedly taking her for a ride. Maybe I shouldn't give a crap but I feel bad for her and people like her and I am angry at the charlatans for their behavior.

She made what she says will be her last video on Tuesday. I think she's come unglued:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqj9ySQCtxY
 

GregMc

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Bob, I'm aware that the hysteria can have serious effects because people very close to me have contemplated/attempted suicide as a result of constant fear of passenger jet overflights. I've been told that a few people have committed suicide and they were also of the same community that is very paranoid over "chemtrails".
I can't directly claim that fear of chemtrails was THE cause but is quite possible to be a contributing factor that compounded on existing depression.
People who are already predisposed to paranoia for any number of reasons might just be sent over the edge by the constant belief that they have ALREADY been poisoned and that vast powers beyond their control are out to cull them in a great culling or institutionalised genocide.

A lot of people don't care if people believe stupid things and will harm themselves or others. Some do care like most of the regulars on this forum.

A few Australian chemtrail believers have been stalking Qantas pilots and attempted to accost one in Sydney airport last month. They were intercepted by police. Now a member of their group of associates has advocated shooting down a passenger plane with a heat seeking missile.

If you read the thread https://www.metabunk.org/threads/251-Advocating-violence-against-quot-Chemtrail-quot-planes you will see that there are more than a few people advocating violent actions against commercial aircraft and pilots
 
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scombrid

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This sort of thing is another reason for debunking:

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/177-GMO-conspiracy-theories

We can throw that in the bin with anti-vaccine bunk as bunk that is doing demonstrable harm. Chemtrail bunk is less prominent but is in the same family of bunk and is certainly not harmless or without collateral damage. If the bunk pushers were the only ones affected then there probably wouldn't be people out and about interested in debunking.
 
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