Please help me to debunk this topic: stranges sphere outside of the ISS.

Nicole Schnaß

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Moderator Note - deirdre
I'm adding this link to the 'phenomenon' questioned in this thread, as this video doesn't have extremely loud music over the NASA commentators vocals
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tgrhyIBoNc




I have seen a very young video about some strange "spheres", like water bubble (the reflection of the light look like water bubbles) outside the ISS sometimes they look like blinking lights.

It is very hard to me to describe this phenomenon.

You will find it in the video at 4:40 minutes.

You can hear some astronauts talking about it.

I have maked a screenshot of the "sphere" hovering at the solarISS.JPG - collectors.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJlhB56H7I
 
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deirdre

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July 27, 2010 spacewalk

"Team here moving the cameras to follow another object that seems to have floated away," the NASA voice said this time. "A small round object that you can see in the middle of the screen here... Possibly a washer or something similar."

Navias said officials will do a photographic analysis to figure out what it was.

But, he said, "It's not unusual at all to have one or two objects float away during the course of a six-and-a-half hour procedure outside an orbiting space station." http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/innovation/07/27/space.walk.object/
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heres video of the first object in that article.. havent found the original "washer" footage yet
Source: https://youtu.be/rJNYIRHKgfY?t=43



"All right, very good, we're probably going to be using wire anyway to attach," a spacewalker said.

About an hour later, another unidentified item accidentally floated off into space. This small object appeared to be a washer.http://www.space.com/8831-losing-tools-cosmonauts-complete-spacewalk.html
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Henk001

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If the debunking was about calling this a UFO, then Deirdre turned it into an IFO (identified floating object) or at least an AGAIFO (as good as identified floating object);)
 

Trailblazer

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The "blinking" effect would presumably result from the washer spinning on its axis, so it reflects light periodically. I've seen similar "UFO footage" from Shuttle missions which were the result of flattish ice crystals spinning and reflecting light.
 

FlightMuj

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Okay, what is this ice crystals thing reflecting the light etc. I am trying to ask what the floating things are which people say are air bubbles. I heard they are from the parts of ISS which cool it and the astronauts, but we can see them in most of the ISS feeds. What exactly are they?
 

Mick West

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Okay, what is this ice crystals thing reflecting the light etc. I am trying to ask what the floating things are which people say are air bubbles. I heard they are from the parts of ISS which cool it and the astronauts, but we can see them in most of the ISS feeds. What exactly are they?
You are going to need to be more specific, with examples.
 

Mick West

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Please don't post misleading mash-up footage with no context. Original NASA sourced videos only. And one thing at a time.

There's lots of things potentially floating around during a spacewalk - but the most common one is ice particles. So please don't post anything unless you can demonstrate it's not an ice particle.
 

deirdre

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but the most common one is ice particles.
do coolant leaks qualify as 'ice particles?' there was a spacewalk at one point to fix a worsening (since 2007) coolant leak, but even dust in the camera lights can look white too.

@FlightMuj good rule of thumb, any vid (esp with silly music) that doesn't source it's footage is most likely total bunk.
 

FlightMuj

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do coolant leaks qualify as 'ice particles?' there was a spacewalk at one point to fix a worsening (since 2007) coolant leak, but even dust in the camera lights can look white too.

@FlightMuj good rule of thumb, any vid (esp with silly music) that doesn't source it's footage is most likely total bunk.
So coolant leaks etc are the main cause? Actually much of the videos have no link for the actual source this is why, but they did not edit the "bubbles" in the video and coolant leak is a thing so even the video from NASA would show the same thing and it does not matter that much in this scenario.
 

Mick West

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So coolant leaks etc are the main cause?
They are the most likely cause on a spacewalk repairing the cooling system. But on other times I think condensation from the airlock and space suites may be more likely.

Astronaut Tom Jones says:
http://www.airspacemag.com/ask-astronaut/ask-astronaut-have-you-ever-seen-ufos-orbit-180958863/

Astronauts have not seen any evidence of alien life. Reports of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) in images returned from the shuttle or station have turned out to be ice crystals, drifting orbital debris, lightning flashes, or meteors streaking through the dark atmosphere below. So far, our search for extraterrestrial life—and other civilizations in space—has turned up no proof of alien civilizations.
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And:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/astronaut-tom-jones-ufos_us_572bb7a8e4b096e9f090d0c3

I was on the shuttle Columbia — STS-80 — and even made a blog entry, ‘Did UFOs Visit The Shuttle Columbia?’ Because when we came back from that mission in 1996, NASA got several queries from people who were watching the video — NASA TV back then — and said, ‘Hey, we saw spaceships on the shuttle video. What’s NASA got to say about that?’

Public affairs referred them to me because I was one of the crew members, and I looked at the video and I said, ‘Oh, I know what this is — this is just ice crystals floating along beside the ship for the first couple of days of the flight.’ What looked to some people like a spaceship streaking across the star field, was — to us, looking out the windows — a complete non-event. And yet, it was very significant to people who were watching.
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deirdre

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Actually much of the videos have no link for the actual source this is why, but they did not edit the "bubbles" in the video and coolant leak is a thing so even the video from NASA would show the same thing and it does not matter that much in this scenario.
it does matter if the video is titled "ISS hoax". It depends on what specific claim is being made, if "air bubbles can't exist in space" is the claim then yes, generic information explaining this is false (e. most likely ice crystals) is adequate.

Perhaps that was the claim but your English is a bit unclear.

In order to determine what the "stuff" is in each specific instance definitively, you would need to see the original footage. date etc.
 
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