Perspective: Russ George's geoengineering project. Plankton Bloom. UN Violation.

Mick West

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Interesting story from the Guardian, about a supposed "geoengineering experiment" carried out off the coast of Canada.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/15/pacific-iron-fertilisation-geoengineering

And a follow-up here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/17/canada-geoengineering-pacific?newsfeed=true
First of all, let's have a look at that diagram showing the bloom. You can get them from here:
http://gdata1.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/daac-bin/G3/gui.cgi?instance_id=WaterQuality
It looks quite impressive with orange and red all along the coast.



Oh, wait a second. THAT'S FROM 2010. Yes, two years earlier, in the same month, the coastline looked pretty much the same.

Here's six years of Augusts.


The bloom is the orange blob in the middle of the 2012 image. All the other orange seems to be just normal variations. Here's the bloom in global context:



So what's going on? The Guardian seems to be speculating that Russ George is a con-artist, and that he's just doing this to rip off the Haida People, and their bank:



(The link went to a pdf file that has since been taken down, I've attached a copy here. )
View attachment OMVC_HP_application-ocr.pdf
 
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Mick West

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View attachment OMVC_HP_application-ocr.pdf

Here's the letter from the Credit Union, advising them of the problems while at the same time approving their loan.

 

MikeC

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The NOAA/NASA links may also be through the Haida Salmon Restoration Project.

Eg they have a partnership with NOAA that seems to provide ocean monitoring equipment:

Also see their Press Release on the bouys

I don't se any specific mention of NASA on the Salmon restoration site, but NASSA do have a couple of baseline databases of marine plant and invertibrate life at Haida on their website here - but that isn't exactly "equipment"
 

Mick West

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That HSRC site is interesting, making no mention of geoengineering, just improving conditions for salmon.

I guess I'll wait and see on this one. The story will come out.
 
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Whoa ... you say "The bloom is the orange blob in the middle of the 2012 image" ... who drew the box around that in the Guardian's Mr. Disney i would guess. The lat/long would place this way too far offshore for the mileage that Mr. Disney reported.

I think it far more likely that he just, like you, downloaded the free chlorphyll a chart from nasa, drew a box around a bloom he liked and emailed it to the Guardian.
 

Mick West

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Whoa ... you say "The bloom is the orange blob in the middle of the 2012 image" ... who drew the box around that in the Guardian's Mr. Disney i would guess. The lat/long would place this way too far offshore for the mileage that Mr. Disney reported.

I think it far more likely that he just, like you, downloaded the free chlorphyll a chart from nasa, drew a box around a bloom he liked and emailed it to the Guardian.

The Guardian story says "200 nautical miles west of Haida Gwaii", which is about right for the location of the supposed bloom. Maybe The Guardian got that from the image itself though, Was there some difference claims of mileage from Disney?
 

Jazzy

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"Well, Iron Sulfate isn't iron dust. It is in fact, fertilizer. And based on the NASA photos, the fertilizer apparently worked. And since fish eat plankton, then it was, in fact, a fish restoration project. You might actually want to deal in facts here."

Not a bad comment immediately visible....

Farmers do it. Do you object? In some circumstances you should.
 
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Joe

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Excellent article . . . !!
this is from Ken Caldiera ( I dont think he likes the article ?)
 

George B

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Is it now?

There are many reasons for animal behavior other than what was offered.

It's particularly uninformed opinion.
Just because specific details of any opinion piece can be challenged doesn't mean the entire primse of the ideas presented are bogus . . . I feel the concern voiced regarding rogue actions by the eccentric elite was spot on . . .
 

Mick West

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Just because specific details of any opinion piece can be challenged doesn't mean the entire primse of the ideas presented are bogus . . . I feel the concern voiced regarding rogue actions by the eccentric elite was spot on . . .

I think David Lewis addresses some problems in Klein's argument quite well here:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/geoengineering/jiq3ADNfibA/discussion
Or in other words, there's a disproportionate amount of outrage over this one experiment in ocean fertilization compared to the amount of actual pollution (not just CO2) in the world.
 

George B

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I think David Lewis addresses some problems in Klein's argument quite well here:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/geoengineering/jiq3ADNfibA/discussion
Or in other words, there's a disproportionate amount of outrage over this one experiment in ocean fertilization compared to the amount of actual pollution (not just CO2) in the world.

Doesn't a major experiment by a private entity concern you?
 

Mick West

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Doesn't a major experiment by a private entity concern you?

As a one-off, no. It has zero effect on the climate, and likely less-than-noise effect on the local ecosystem. It seems like it was essentially a salmon fertilization project, and the only "geoengineering" aspect was that he said they might be able to sell carbon offsets.
 

Trigger Hippie

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Russ George speaks out in a recent Scientific American interview.

I get the impression he's found a way to investigate his primary interest of carbon sequestering under the guise of helping a struggling indian tribe. When attacked, he argues that his motives are altruistic. The fact he has a history of advocating geoengineering via ocean fertilization and has engaged in several entrepreneurial schemes of selling carbon credits makes me doubt his motive was only to help a indian tribe with 70% unemployment.

He claims to have done his due diligence and his actions are covered by Canadian law. He also claims to have gathered a huge amount of data that he is in the process of analyzing. I'm not sure if I'd trust his methodology or conclusions, but maybe the scientific community at large could use his data.

Whatever the case, there is not any evidence of conspiracy or the involvement of wealthy global elites.
 

Mick West

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The Earthquake connection has been made :)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread894473/pg1

 
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