Oregon UFO Lights seen by pilots [Starlink]

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Summary: The lights seen in photos and videos shared by the pilots have been positively identified as Starlink Satellite Flares:

Photo from UAL1596 compared with Sitrec. The white object in the centre of the picture on the right is the ufo/starlink flare.
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Video from N661LF compared with Sitrec. The Red Object that slowly appears is the ufo that was 'moving at hypersonic speeds, in a corkscrew pattern'.



Only audio on this one, but it sounds just like starlink flares.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hObi8hcmdM&ab_channel=TimVasquez%27sForecastLab


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/comments/1h9mojd/multiple_reports_from_pilots_tonight_december_78/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Actually, here's a good reference point. Unfortunately, LiveATC leaves the dead air in between transmissions, but a lot of the discussion is on this frequency. There's a United crew and a LN661LF (MEDEVAC) crew reporting what they're seeing.

Nothing they were seeing had a radar signature, and there was possibly video recorded from some of the pilots. Some of it may appear somewhere online, but it won't be from me. Listen for where the medevac pilot says it was red and circular, and that he doesn't know how to describe how fast it was coming in and then back out over the water.

These were being reported by multiple flight crews on different frequencies, and all corroborated each other without being able to hear what the other pilots were saying. Events occurred above the Oregon coastline west of Eugene. This isn't the first time this week this has happened.
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Sightings of the lights starts at about 23m00s.
Audio Source: https://archive.liveatc.net/keug/KEUG3-ZSE06-125800-Dec-08-2024-0430Z.mp3


Audio Track with Silence Removed: (goto 1m15s for sighting reports)



otter.ai transcript with audio: https://otter.ai/u/XkL2_wVkLWqcR1UFhEooAxI3DR0?utm_source=copy_url

This was a highlight! (link) :D
Medevac 661L: just had another one show up about my one o'clock, about 1000 feet high, zipping towards us and then back out towards the ocean, and red, red in color, moving at extreme speeds. I don't I don't even know how to describe how fast I went, 661Lima

ATC: You are cleared to maneuver as necessary, left the right to avoid the UFO out there. And all the reports you give us are good information, we appreciate it.
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The ATC guy is called Cory and gives his phone no for the aircrew to send him any pictures and video he get. (link or at 6m15s in silenced removed audio.)

United Airlines1596 asks "Is there any military activity stright ahead of us" and then reported seeing "lots of it out there".
N661LF is a PC-12 heading south from Portland.
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Kml is attached.

Nightsky Sitrec shows they were in the flare band and looking in the right direction, but yet didn't report seeing any starlink flares, hmmmm?

https://www.metabunk.org/u/xaydKC.html
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It is likely that the pilots saw Starlink flares.
 

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I spoke to the ATC operator Cory yesterday. Because I live in Eugene he agreed to give me everything thing he had from that night between him and the pilot. Here is the most remarkable photo I received. Also included here is the entire text exchange between the United Airlines pilot and ATC Cory.
 

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lucothairish said:
I spoke to the ATC operator Cory yesterday. Because I live in Eugene he agreed to give me everything thing he had from that night between him and the pilot. Here is the most remarkable photo I received. Also included here is the entire text exchange between the United Airlines pilot and ATC Cory.
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Thanks for posting those. The photo is the same as that posted by @VikingEyes , but the conversation shows what the pilot was thinking. The photos seem consistent with the Starlink. It's a shame they didn't get a photo or a video of the other object they claim to have seen.

This is a comment on Reddit from the pilot of the PC-12 N664LF...


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/comments/1h9mojd/comment/m1kfzrm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/comments/1h9mojd/comment/m1lls1y/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


I havent heard a report from anyone else seeing the red light, just the multiple 'bright lights manoeuvring near the horizon' that is usually starlink.
 
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Just saw a pretty good video on Instagram. Not too sure what is "legal" to post here with attachments but it was a time-lapse with a nice representation of how they look.
 
Just reviewing the post of of the pilot of PC-12 N661LF - there he describes his flight and reports seeing a red orb moving from just off his right wing, to out over the ocean, and back again.

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This is the route he took (kml attached) and it matches with his description. Corvallis is circled in red.
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I've check sitrec and the pilot was definitely in the Starlink Flare zone, an they would have been visible to his right side, just like the 'orb' he says he saw. So they definitly should have seen starlink flares at some point.

https://www.metabunk.org/u/Q5T1Tf.html
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Going back to his description...
<snip> the orange/red orb object I saw was moving way too fast to also be Starlink. We first started seeing it as we were passing over Corvallis. It would park itself 22 miles off my right wing sit there for 2 to 5 seconds then go shooting out off the coast and over the horizon 3 to 5 seconds later, it would come at a high rate of speed, zipping back in and stopping right off my right wing. We watched this happen for over 20 minutes. When I changed altitudes from 16,000 down to 14,000 it changed its altitude from 16,000 down to 14,000. I know this because I was seeing it on my TCAS. When I got down towards Coos Bay, where I was intending on landing. The fog was thick enough that I was unable to shoot the approach so we returned back to the Portland area on our return. We watched it from just north of Coos Bay to just north of Florence, the orb shot out over the ocean.
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I can understand how a Starlink flare might look red, particularly on a foggy night, which the pilot said it was. Like how the moon can look red sometimes:
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But the motion in to the land and out to the ocean is a bit harder to explain. The pilot continues his description ...
so it would come in from out over the ocean at a high rate of speed and stop 22 1/2 miles from my aircraft or at least that's what TCAS was showing its distance. Then it would begin to accelerate at a high rate of speed away from me and it was bright enough that I could see it slowly disappear over the horizon so I would guess a couple hundred miles away it would take about 2 to 3 seconds before I couldn't see it. Then it would be out of sight for 3 to 5 seconds and then reappear at the horizon approaching me at rapid speeds and then come to a stop again at that 22 1/2 mile ring on my TCAS along with being at my altitude at 16,000 feet and then when I descend down to 14,000 feet, it followed me down to 14,000 feet. Another weird thing is, I didn't have much horizontal movement of it the entire time. I watched it as if it was following me down to the south then again back to the north for about 20 minutes.
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Could the Starlink flares change in brightness and then fading away to nothing be perceived as an object getting closer and closer and then moving away again into the distance? Some sort of optical illusion where a bright light in fog is assumed to be moving to and from the observer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_collision_avoidance_system

And could the correlation with TCAS just be a coincidence? The pilot didn't confirm if the apparent motion of the 'orb' was confirmed on TCAS or if it was only seen at the 22.5 mile range ring. TCAS requires a transponder on the other aircraft. Orbs and Satellites dont have a transponder - so could it have been another aircraft? Or an error? I'm not sure yet.

Also, I've tried to enhance one of the videos posted above ...
 

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dylbie said:
That doesn't explain the TCAS situation though.
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it could be an unrelated coincidence
dylbie said:
A question for someone here who understands Mode C/S transponders better than me:

Could an aircraft fitted with an old Mode C transponder trigger a TCAS response to another aircraft without being seen by ATC?
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that could happen with ADS-B as well. It operates on line-of-sight, so two aircraft could see each other while one was obscured from all ground stations.

However. While the terrain below is somewhat mountainous, I wouldn't expect a coverage hole at 14,000 feet. I expect that if they saw something on TCAS at that altitude, ATC would've seen it as well, but probably couldn't figure out what the pilot meant.
 
Possibly totally unrelated, but the Geminid meteor shower is underway, which can produce upwards of 100 meteors in an hour (though often less), described as "slow" but of course we're talking "slow for meteors" here. Does not seem likely that would account for everything described, but I wonder of references to something flying at rapid speeds might be generated by such meteors? It is possibly that more than one "stimulus" was being observed: Starlink, meteors and an unrelated TCAS signal, all getting munged up in the assumption that it is all one phenomenon?

(My attempt to figure out if Gemini was above the horizon at the time in Corvallis indicates that it was, but I am notorious for making errors in time zone conversion. I make it low in the West, making it possible for meteors radiating from there to be seen coming "back towards" the observer, and to see a few moving off towards the western horizon, albeit for a short distance and starting from fairly low in the sky. Before settling on that being the case though, somebody who feels confident with time zones feel free to double check that. While it would be possible to see Geminids with the constellation below the horizon, to see some going away from you and some seeming to come towards you, it would have to be above the horizon and not too close to the zenith.)

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JMartJr said:
(My attempt to figure out if Gemini was above the horizon at the time in Corvallis indicates that it was, but I am notorious for making errors in time zone conversion. I make it low in the West, making it possible for meteors radiating from there to be seen coming "back towards" the observer, and to see a few moving off towards the western horizon, albeit for a short distance and starting from fairly low in the sky. Before settling on that being the case though, somebody who feels confident with time zones feel free to double check that. While it would be possible to see Geminids with the constellation below the horizon, to see some going away from you and some seeming to come towards you, it would have to be above the horizon and not too close to the zenith.)

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Your graphic says "looking east", and this chart for Corvallis at 8pm say Gemini would be low in the east.

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Here is a link to the footage related to this sighting:

https://imgur.com/gallery/12-8-2024-pilot-sends-video-to-atc-eugene-oregon-hvQ9CIQ


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/comments/1h9mojd/comment/m1fo4mz/


The footage is low resolution and quite dim. Presumably, the red light mentioned in the audio is registered in the video below:



I have enhanced it a little bit to make the red light stand out more:



The next footage looks like Starlink, possibly recorded by the crew in the back of the plane as mentioned in the audio (original):



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The next footage shows a blinking light, but the blinking could be camera related (original):



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The last shared piece of footage shows a blinking light, the blinking could be camera related, and another light that looks like it could be Starlink (original):



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flarkey said:
Your graphic says "looking east", and this chart for Corvallis at 8pm say Gemini would be low in the east.
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Graphic selected just to illustrate how meteors radiating from a point can appear to go away toward the horizon or flying towards/over you. But it seems I did indeed mess up the time conversion, the time I was looking at in Stellarium was not the time of the incident. So the possibility of radiating meteors from the Geminids would seem to be out. I suppose meteors still might account for fast moving bits, but it does seem to link up well with the ongoing meteor shower.
 
so it would come in from out over the ocean at a high rate of speed and stop 22 1/2 miles from my aircraft or at least that's what TCAS was showing its distance. Then it would begin to accelerate at a high rate of speed away from me and it was bright enough that I could see it slowly disappear over the horizon so I would guess a couple hundred miles away it would take about 2 to 3 seconds before I couldn't see it. Then it would be out of sight for 3 to 5 seconds and then reappear at the horizon approaching me at rapid speeds and then come to a stop again at that 22 1/2 mile ring on my TCAS along with being at my altitude at 16,000 feet and then when I descend down to 14,000 feet, it followed me down to 14,000 feet. Another weird thing is, I didn't have much horizontal movement of it the entire time. I watched it as if it was following me down to the south then again back to the north for about 20 minutes.
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This sounds exactly like the behavior of a distant (near) stationary object's perceived behavior when it is believed to be much closer than it is. We often here this description in cases where it turned out the object was very much further away than the observer thought it was. The classic example that most of us have experienced is looking at a bright nighttime object (star, moon, planet) when in a moving vehicle. It appears to be following you. As a pilot, flying at night, it is easy to be fooled by a misperception of distance and apparent motion (or lack thereof). That's why we are taught to double check instruments and not rely only on eyesight even when flying conditions are VFR. If the instruments are also giving you some false information as it appears the TCAS system may have been in this case, it could become very confusing.

I would very much like to hear from experienced TCAS users (I never flew with that capability) what sort of misbehaviors are common. My understanding of how TCAS works is the same as expressed in the above comments. It requires a transponder on the other aircraft to send signals to the receiver on the first aircraft, something that would not likely be present on anything other than a good sized aircraft. So unless another aircraft was flying parallel to the medivac flight the reported TCAS data makes no sense.

My best guess as to what happened here is that a distant object was being observed while TCAS was misreporting the presence of another aircraft and the two events were unrelated.
 
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lucothairish said:
I spoke to the ATC operator Cory yesterday. Because I live in Eugene he agreed to give me everything thing he had from that night between him and the pilot. Here is the most remarkable photo I received. Also included here is the entire text exchange between the United Airlines pilot and ATC Cory.
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I have confirmed that the text exchange above is not between ATC and the UA flight but instead it is between Eugene ATC and the MedEvac plane. My apologies and the still image of the glowing red object was taken from a city street in Portland on Dec. 4th by a civilian. So that makes 3 different instances of this glowing red object reported over Western Oregon since late November.
 
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And more from the pilot who saw it...
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...speeds not possible in manned aircraft. No radar signature.
I would say the object was traveling a couple hundred miles in 3 to 5 seconds. My distance from the ocean changed a lot from the time we first started seeing it to the last time we saw it. The reason I'm saying a couple hundred miles is it appeared to disappear over the horizon. We wouldn't see it for 3 to 5 sometimes 10 seconds before it would come flying back at us coming over the horizon and getting a lot brighter it made its way to us and stopping.
Assumes distance given no triangulation or radar. I.e. making stuff up with no evidence to support it.
 
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FatPhil said:
Assumes distance given no triangulation or radar. I.e. making stuff up with no evidence to support it.
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To quibble just slightly -- I don't disagree with your point, but to me "making stuff up" implies intentional deception, which may not be what you intended. Of course, it MIGHT be made up with intent to deceive, but it might also just be down to the OTHER bugaboo of eyewitness testimony -- faulty memory based on faulty perception and interpretation. With a possible dose of seeing several different sorts of things and erroneously assuming they are all the same thing.
 
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here's one of his videos .... slightly disappointing.
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It is the same video released before but the resolution is slightly increased, I have enhanced it below as the original is still very dim.

Given that the light above it is Altair, the red light seems to be a Starlink satellite.

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And the perceived movements towards and away from the plane are simply a change in brightness. Whilst the perceived change in altitude is the satellite moving along its orbit, away from the horizon from the pilot's viewpoint. The red light moves towards Altair before disappearing, being then replaced by another reddish light at a similar location, giving the pilot the impression the light has returned from beyond the horizon and is now approaching the aircraft again, as its brightness increases.

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In the clip below, taken from the full footage above, the red light seems to be climbing towards the aircraft's altitude and then moving away, but in reality it is the light that is dimming, whilst moving along the orbital path, which makes it seem to be climbing from the pilot's viewpoint plus parallax from the aircraft sudden movements (time compressed 8x to make the changes more noticeable):



flarkey said:
https://www.metabunk.org/u/7SfB3O.html
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I have recorded the Sitrec simulation from your link and sped it up 8x for comparison:

 
john.phil said:
It is the same video released before but the resolution is slightly increased, I have enhanced it below as the original is still very dim.
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I'm pretty sure it's a video from the medevac PC-12 aircraft rather than the UA1596 A319, but of the same event. The A319 saw multiple white orbs, the PC-12 saw a red orb coming in from and back out to the ocean - however this may have been an assumption from the pilot when the light got brighter and faded away again.
 
just some more words from the pilot of the PC-12 that I received via DM on Reddit. I asked him about the 'red orb' and if it's movement was seen on TCAS....

Pilot : Myself and my crew watched it for 20 minutes, fly directly at us, stop and then fly away from us and disappear over the horizon. i don't think I ever saw it moving on TCAS as I was trying to fly talk to ATC watch the object and communicate with my med crew. Things were a little busy.
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Flarkey: yeah, I saw the video your wife shared on YouTube - it doesn't look like it was flying towards you, but rather something in the distance getting brighter and then fading away giving the illusion that it was getting closer & then flying away.
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Pilot: That's a good theory. But I don't know how all three of us could see an illusion like that for over 20 minutes. The object also appeared to be following us to the south then back to the north again. All three of us kept saying there it goes again hey look it's coming back… it also would have ever so slightly lateral and vertical movement. It also followed us from the Corvallis area all the way down to where I turned around from north Bend back up to just north of Florence. And also managed to keep its distance from us, even as I was closer to the coast on my way back up since ATC let me fly towards the coast and hopes of getting a better video.
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dylbie said:
That doesn't explain the TCAS situation though.

A question for someone here who understands Mode C/S transponders better than me:

Could an aircraft fitted with an old Mode C transponder trigger a TCAS response to another aircraft without being seen by ATC?
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I'm trying to understand your question.
Are you asking would ATC not see a specific aircraft if it has an opera transponder?

Or are you asking if ATC sees the TCAS reaction?

Depends what airspace but yes they see the aircraft with an operating transponder. They would only call out traffic alerts if you are under their control and speaking to them. So depends on the airspace requirements, flight plan, ect.

TCAS is independent of ATC and the aircraft basically evaluate each other's relative position and give a traffic alert or resolution advisory that the pilot may react to, then report to ATC.
 
Here's a news report from the pilot of the medevac plane Joey Buley, he seems pretty adamant it wasnt Starlink.


Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hdob1s/abc_news_ufos_with_instantaneous_acceleration/

QXE2207: "They're not satellites... at least 4"

"There's something flying, it's not satellites, they're changing direction, it's strange looking"

"They stayed with us the whole way in"

United 1596: "Is there any military activity ahead of us?"

Seattle: "No, I had another one reporteed at 30000ft, we're not sure what it is"

United 1596: "Yeah... there's a lot of movement out there"

"We're seeing 3 or 4 targets, their altitudes are up and down, it's pretty crazy"

"They are shooting way up" (from 30000 to 50000 thousand ft)

N661LF: "There's actually traffic at about 2-3 o'clock, 20-30 miles"

"They're going in circles... there's one way up high and one about my altitude"

"It looks like it's moving towards the north"

Seattle: "We're not seeint anything, getting lots of different reports out there"

N661LF: "Just had another one show up about my 1 o'clock, about 1000ft high, zipping towards us and then back out towards the ocean"

"It's red in color, moving at extreme speeds... I don't even know how to describe on how it's moving"

Seattle: "You're cleared to maneuver as necessary left and right to avoid the UFO out there"

N661LF: "It's weird... it's a red circular shape and it keeps zipping towards the ocean and then coming back in about 20 miles or close to us, and then zips back out over the ocean"

Seattle: "There's a lot of controllers here pretty interested in seeing what you're looking at there"
N661LF: "It's still continuing, it's a red circle shaped object that's zipping out over towards the ocean"

"It comes back in and then it zips back out over the ocean at a rapid rate of speed faster than anything I've ever seen"

Seattle (to Coast Guard 6063): "I know you guys are probably on S&R out there, just wanted to give you a report about 20 miles there's been several reports now of UFO activity moving to what appear to be super sonic or hyper sonic speeds"

"Kind of inland and then back over the water, we've had multiple altitude reports all the way down to about 14000ft to 55000ft, it's been reported as red and circular moving really really fast"

Seattle (to Alaska 1100): [report similar information]

"We also had an aircraft in hight altitude that was actually about 39000ft and it just shot up, passed them and in front of them and went way up and then it kind of corkscrewed back down again very very fast"

"We're trying to figure ot what it is, we don't have anything on our radar"
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So I contacted the medevac PC-12 pilot who saw the red orb over Oregon. He sent me a video with metadata.

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I've enhanced it slightly ( only brightness & contrast) - we can get a really good view of it and its 'hypersonic' motion.... or lack of it.



I used sitrec to sync this with the video using the metadata above and the flights ADSB data and there's almost a perfect match with starlink flares.

The flight track:
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Sitrec synced with the pilot's video: permalink https://www.metabunk.org/u/g56v8H.html



The video shows that the 'red orb' was appearing at exactly the same spot and at the same time as we'd expect it to if it was a Starlink satellite flare. We can only conclude that it was a satellite flare that they saw and the red color was caused by atmospheric attenuation & scattering. The increase in brightness and then the fade away to zero created the illusion that it was getting closer to the PC-12 and then going back over the ocean.
 

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Stryder said:
I would very much like to hear from experienced TCAS users (I never flew with that capability) what sort of misbehaviors are common. My understanding of how TCAS works is the same as expressed in the above comments. It requires a transponder on the other aircraft to send signals to the receiver on the first aircraft, something that would not likely be present on anything other than a good sized aircraft. So unless another aircraft was flying parallel to the medivac flight the reported TCAS data makes no sense.
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As I understand it, airliners carry primary radar for weather radar and as altimeter, not to find other aircraft. I think TCAS can display all aircraft with ADS-B out, and above 10,000 ft over the continental US that should be all of them (military flights in MOA possibly excluded). TCAS will only issue a resolution advisory (ascend or descend) if the other aircraft also has TCAS.

That said, I'm not a pilot, and corrections are always welcome.
 
dominiquemb said:
I'm wondering if there's anything that explains the corkscrew movement described in the audio?
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the criss-crossing orbits of the satellites can sometimes appear as multiple craft circling each other. The best example I've seen of this was shared in this post on here, but the source was on Reddit. When we see just how weird this looks then it makes it a bit more understandable that pilots struggle to comprehend what they are seeing, and then try to describe it to ATC.

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/how-to-see-deployed-starlink-racetrack-flares.12797/post-324467

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15sj495/8162023_200am_multiple_lights_over_approximately/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
 
@john.phil @flarkey
Both of you have posted videos on this thread that come up on my screen as things I can't see, just a black screen with a triangle (like a "play" icon) with a slash through it. 'Scuse my ignorance about things technical, but what do I need to do to see them?
 
Mendel said:
As I understand it, airliners carry primary radar for weather radar and as altimeter, not to find other aircraft. I think TCAS can display all aircraft with ADS-B out, and above 10,000 ft over the continental US that should be all of them (military flights in MOA possibly excluded). TCAS will only issue a resolution advisory (ascend or descend) if the other aircraft also has TCAS.

That said, I'm not a pilot, and corrections are always welcome.
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I'm not sure what you mean by 10,000 feet.
TCAS displays all other aircraft with transponders in your vicinity even when you are on the ground. The range differs with atmospherics and altitude. Usually to a maximum of 40ish miles away when at altitude.
I'll usually reference the TCAS before taking the runway just to see if any conflicting traffic are on final approach.
Different aircraft may have varying controls and most you can declutter by selecting priority above or below you depending on if you plan on climbing or decending.
Only fighter aircraft and AWACS use radar to see other aircraft. In the case of fighters you can only see where the antenna is sweeping. So no, you can't see behind you. Think of it like a spotlight. You see what the antenna is pointing at. Doppler will usually remove extremely slow moving targets because the logic is that it is not a moving aircraft.

Anything without a transponder like a drone, satilites or alien spacecraft would not display on TCAS.
 
Since the first Starlink flares have only been a thing since 2019, is recognizing them and
understanding their movement included in new pilot training?

Are pilots that have been flying since 1985 given any training on this?

Are any of these folks "trained observers" or are they just winging it, when they declare:
"It definitely wasn't Starlink, because _______________ "

Sometimes the pilot quotes are kind of jaw dropping...and not in a reassuring way... :rolleyes:
 
Thank you for your clarifications!
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I'm not sure what you mean by 10,000 feet
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I wrote, "TCAS can display all aircraft with ADS-B out, and above 10,000 ft over the continental US that should be all of them (military flights in MOA possibly excluded)."
In other words, in civil airspace above 10,000 feet, all aircraft should have ADS-B out, because the FAA mandates it.
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https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/technology/equipadsb/research/airspace

(The exception is if they're close to a mountain, but that does not apply in the case we're discussing here. And obviously transponders can fail, but that's very rare.)
 
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Ann K said:
@john.phil @flarkey
Both of you have posted videos on this thread that come up on my screen as things I can't see, just a black screen with a triangle (like a "play" icon) with a slash through it. 'Scuse my ignorance about things technical, but what do I need to do to see them?
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For reddit and xitter, I use yt-dlp to download the videos so that I can play them at my leisure in a player of my choice. The version I have doesn't cope with tiktok or instagram vids, but I'm not willing to upgrade just for those as the upgrade might break currently working things.
 
Ann K said:
Post #24 (attachments 2, 3, and 4) and post #29 (attachments 2 and 4). I'm not a technical person, and am working on an iPad.
Click to expand...
You can try downloading the clips via the long-touch context menu, and then playing them.
 
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