Nicole Shanahan, Advisor to RFK Jr, "Chemtrails" video 23rd February 2025

well at least she admitted its just a contrail that has turned into a cloud, and she's only bummed because its ruining her sunny day.
 
Contrail = water vapor, condensing in cold air.
Cloud = water vapor, condensing in cold air.

My kids were taught that before they were of school age. What on earth is Nicole Shanahan's problem?

Can someone please ask Nicole Shanahan if she has any comments on nucleation sites, whether she'd like more of them, or fewer - do they need to be regulated or not?
 
Nicole posted on X during January 2025.


Source: https://x.com/NicoleShanahan/status/1882826575324037248







I wonder how much pressure will be put on the FAA, EPA, USAF by these advisors, like Nicole Shanahan to alter, hide or even remove the contrail information pages? Will RFK Jr have a say about how 'Contrail facts' are presented by the Trump administration. Many chemtrail believers are getting frustrated that the skies are no different under Trump. EPA nominee is still to be confirmed, but the webpage was updated on February 7, 2025.

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From

https://www.epa.gov/regulations-emissions-vehicles-and-engines/information-contrails-aircraft

Will 'Contrails facts from the USAF' remain or will it be be taken down?

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-10/documents/afd-051013-001.pdf

The same for EPA contrail facts.

https://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyPDF.cgi/00000LVU.PDF?Dockey=00000LVU.PDF


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From
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_or.../apl/contrails/contrails_research_roadmap.pdf
 
So…. Uh… She's against air travel?
Yeah, this will be interesting if any of the anti chemtrail (based on contrails) ideas get any legislative traction. Obviously you can't stop contrails, so how will they ever claim a victory? At least with UFO disclosure movement there was some kind of circular feed back loop where no evidence is evidence of a cover up. With chemtrails, they will literally be staring people in the face every day.
 
Yeah, this will be interesting if any of the anti chemtrail (based on contrails) ideas get any legislative traction.
Although it's a silly waste of time, at this point, given the degradation of the information ecosystem and prevalence of these ridiculous conspiracies, I wouldn't have a problem with her spearheading legislation. It could simply be regulatory language forbidding aircraft from spraying. Will it accomplish anything? In reality, no. But it might be sufficient for some of these people to spread their virtue signal, and thus alleviate fears.
Obviously you can't stop contrails, so how will they ever claim a victory? […] With chemtrails, they will literally be staring people in the face every day.
My hope would be the result would be similar to the Jersey drone flap. Once people are convinced Trump's team is monitoring the skies, the paranoia would dissipate and the misperceptions will reduce. Hopefully.

In addition, I think it's time for scientists and academics in general to take a far more proactive approach in combatting this type of misinformation. Not by tweeting responses correcting the record (low efficacy), but by inviting her into some of the labs at local universities. Bring her in to an atmospheric science lab with unfettered access and take the time to explain it in detail and answer follow up questions. Obviously researchers and scientists don't want to waste their time with this sort of thing, but frankly the spread of misinformation has become so pervasive that we need to think differently about these dynamics. People need to be engaged face-to-face and given lab access to enable them to see and understand the reality of the situation. It certainly won't work with everyone, but I genuinely suspect a lot of these people who end up believing nonsense can have their minds changed once it is put in a real world context with real people.
 
Obviously you can't stop contrails, so how will they ever claim a victory?
Politically, I think it is a "lose-lose" proposition. If you don't pass legislation and claim to be doing something, you are seen by these people as enabling the evil conspirators doing whatever it is that it is assumed they are doing this week. But if you DO pass legislation, and there are still contrails, you obviously passed "fake laws" that were not serious about stopping the evil conspirators, you promised to fix it but it is visibly still happening, because contrails are not going to stop (physics and all that.)

The ideal case for a politician who wants to appease the chemtrail or other conspiracy crowd is to propose laws that won;t pass -- YOU are doing everything you can, since the law doesn't pass it's not your fault when people wake up tomorrow and there are still contrails. The worst thing that can happen for a conspiracy theorist elected to office is to have enough votes to pass stuff.
 
Once people are convinced Trump's team is monitoring the skies, the paranoia would dissipate and the misperceptions will reduce. Hopefully.
She's a Democrat. unless RFK sticks a test strip in every airplane gas tank himself (which he wont, as he has bigger fish to fry and limited time) she wont believe the sky is being monitored.

and Republicans already know the government lackkeys don't actually do squat about anything.
 
She's a Democrat.

No. She *was* a Democrat. Your statement is as true as the one "Obama is President of the USA".

However, I'm not sure that donating to Hillary's 2016 campaign is really enough to make that your true identity. Marrying the 10th richest man in the world who was a well-known Democratic Party donor might have had something to do with her preserving that image. And, who knows, maybe jumping into bed - allegedly - with Elon Musk in early 2022 may have been part of her transistion away from that identity.
 
No. She *was* a Democrat. Your statement is as true as the one "Obama is President of the USA".
the context is whether she would be trusting the Trump administration to end chemtrails.

But you're right she WAS a democrat.
and i realize i was wrong, as i'm sure her entire world view and personality changed when she switched parties on paper to be on RFKs ticket less than a year ago.
 
the context is whether she would be trusting the Trump administration to end chemtrails.

But you're right she WAS a democrat.
and i realize i was wrong, as i'm sure her entire world view and personality changed when she switched parties on paper to be on RFKs ticket less than a year ago.

Why do you believe worldview changes and switching parties on paper happen simultaneously?
 
I think maybe the question of what her party affiliation is, and when her views became what they are, is leading away from the actual issue -- what are her views as she takes up her duties, and what will she do about them as an officer in the government?
 
where are you seeing that? i google searched it but im not finding where she is in government or has any duties.
I read "Advisor to RFK Jr" as being such a position. If whe's just advising, unofficially, then change that to "as she advises the new Sec. of HHS."

what are her views?
Would love to see that being discussed! I have no idea, I never heard of her other than in this thread.
 
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I never heard of her other than in this thread.
oh lol that explains alot. she was RFKs running mate. they both switched to the Independent Party to run in the Presidential election, because Biden was running as the Democrat.

edit add: i should note i'm from Connecticut. Leiberman did the same thing ie. switched parties to run. He was "technically" an Independant, but it was no secret, and no big deal, he was a Democrat at heart.
Article:
During his Senate re-election bid in 2006, Lieberman lost the Democratic primary election but won re-election in the general election as a third party candidate under the Connecticut for Lieberman party label.

Lieberman was officially listed in Senate records for the 110th and 111th Congress as an Independent Democrat,[4] and sat as part of the Senate Democratic Caucus.
 
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On August 27, 2024, Chris Cuomo interviewed Shanahan on NewsNation regarding Kennedy's endorsement of Trump. Shanahan specifically stated that she is not a Harris Democrat or a Trump Republican.[64]

From her wikipedia bio, she seems to move in the intersection of tech entrepreneurs and alternative medicine/lifestyle, which is where her woo beliefs come from.
 
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Can you please let me know the source of these photos? That will be quite valuable to me!

Edit: I found the (photo # 2)Meloy photo over the UK.

Source: https://www.flickr.com/photos/79734127@N07/32597991928/in/photolist-REzeiA-2b2TLU7-uyyViP/

Also found photo #3 (from video)

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3or3nXDjNVA

I'm not so sure about Photo #1, from a video.
It looks to me as if it could be AI generated?
https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/73304586-air-force-1-contrails
 
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I read "Advisor to JFK Jr" as being such a position. If whe's just advising, unofficially, then change that to "as she advises the new Sec. of HHS."
Where did you find news of her announcement as "advisor to RFK Jr"? I can't seem to find news of that online.
 
Maybe having more famous people come out against the chemtrails hoax would be a good thing.
But, it's more likely when they catch on that they were gullible they will just shut up out of embarrassment.
It would be really cool to have someone actually ask Trump and see what comes of that.

My biggest fear remains that Dane's comment will be taken seriously by some extremist:

Dane Wigington @ 7:44
The only way this stops is when we reach the pitchforks and torches moment the proverbial pitchforks and
torches moment when people realize they are literally fighting for their lives right here right now if we have soils that don't grow food and we have our own personal health that's deteriorating by the day we're not going to be fighting anything for much longer.

The threats in my video were ages ago but they continue, within a few hours yesterday someone in the comments to that youtube asked if Americans can get missiles. The most dangerous time in a cult is when they feel backed into a corner. That is when things go really bad.


Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypOgL4n-950
 
She is available for debunking. I'm sure that she is a frequent flyer and has access to pilots.
 

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She is available for debunking. I'm sure that she is a frequent flyer and has access to pilots.
like she is gonna have any idea what she's looking at with that overly complicated chart.
flight radar24 with the little plane pictures and colored trails is a much better sell to newbies.

(not to mention that chart is scarier looking than the sky she is showing in her video!)
 
No she explicitly says it's not a contrail
yea because now its a cloud. "it looked like it started as a contrail maybe, but now its turning into a cloud."

point being: sprayed chemicals dont "grow". where as contrails can grow ..just like clouds can grow...as they suck up additional moisture in the atmosphere.
 
Ha! Why on earth would ANYONE link to Xitter?
he's ON twitter, making a claim. did you read your article? you can easily find the twitter source your article cites, just google his name with twitter added and Shanahan added.
 
yea because now its a cloud. "it looked like it started as a contrail maybe, but now its turning into a cloud."

point being: sprayed chemicals dont "grow". where as contrails can grow ..just like clouds can grow...as they suck up additional moisture in the atmosphere.
The whole point of her posting this is because she thinks it's a cloud from geoengineering, not a contrail. She literally says "That is not a contrail." And later says "this shit has to stop" in a tweet captioned "Many of us know it's happening. We'd like more details, please." If she thought it was a regular contrail that expanded, why would she post it? What would have to stop? The whole post makes no sense if she thinks it's a regular contrail.
 
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