Moscow Spiral Contrail / Helix Cloud - Theories

Mick West

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From this site (but likely not to stay on this page)
http://netall.ru/gnn/photo_day/




The original text is:

Translation








Here's my initial take on it, as posted on ATS:

I'm not sure what this is. Any more suggestions?

[UPDATE] It seems almost certain that this is a very long twisted contrail viewed end on, see below.
 
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Mick West

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In photos 1 and 2, taken by the same person, the same building appears:



Looking at the light here I'd say it looks like a high cloud, contrail altitude. It's lit bright white, whereas the clouds lower in the frame are orange with the rising sun. There's also a linear contrail in #2 that is the same pure white.

Comparing #1 and #2, #2 is bigger, there's also a tilt. but that might just be the camera position.

It's possible that #2 is bigger than #1 because the camera is closer. However it could also be because the cloud has spread a bit more. It does not seem to have changed shape, in terms of more twist.
 
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Some more examples from"QuickBlackFox",

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread912032/pg3#pid15623577



Notice he says "the entire sky was full of these spirals". This is strong evidence that the Moscow spiral was simply a twisted contrail like these, but viewed from end on, so it looked vertical.
 
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Mick West

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It's probably worth to note that Moscow has remarkably cold weather at the moment.

Which might be allowing contrails to form lower, in regions of air that are more prone to this type of rolling advection. Which would explain why you don't see it very often, as contrails typically form higher in more stable air.
 

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Here's a similar things in the US:

http://www2.nbc4i.com/ugc/snap/weather/helix-cloud-over-columbus/8429/


A comment on the above suggests it's not a contrail:

I'm not convinced though. The Kyiv (Kiev) photos above are clearly contrails, and when viewed end on would clearly look like the Columbus photos and the Moscow photos.
 
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Trailspotter

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These photos are from Zelenograd, a stand-alone district some 20 miles NW from the centre of Moscow. All four viewpoints are within one mile from each other. [EDIT actually, it is about 2.3 miles between the most distant #3 and #4 (see below).] Unfortunately, Zelenograd is not on Google StreetView, so I could not locate the exact viewpoints and view directions. I've asked friends in Moscow for more information on this phenomenon, but got no replies yet.
 

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This example of a helix cloud might provide some clues as to formation:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/captured_echoes/5409059139/
Jan 31 2011

Again a winter cloud, so cold weather, possible lower altitude. It looks like cirrus uncinus clouds formed from a contrail, and then twisted. The interesting thing is how the "body" of the cirrus uncinus clouds seems to switch sides of the helix. You would really need to see this cloud in 3D to figure out exactly what is going on here, but consider the initial formation, the fallstreaks (virga), and the twist did not all happen at the same time.
 
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Trailspotter

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In Google Earth, there are some 3D buildings in Zelenograd. I've located the viewpoint and direction of photo #4, the camera points toward the Sheremet'evo airport (SVO):

DNA trail p4.jpg

55.992316733° N 37.212822455° E
 

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Photo #2 is taken from about 110m (360 feet) North of photo #1. Both photos sem to be facing about due east. The large amount of parallax motion relative to the building that is in both shots would seem to indicate that it's a long way off. Hard to say exactly, but at least 10 miles, and probably more like 50-100
 

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And here's photo #1

Yes, it is. I also have located all four viewpoints:
Zelenograd viewpoints.jpg

and fit photos #1 and #2
DNA trail p1.jpg
DNA trail p2.jpg

There are no 3D buildings for photo #3, but the estimated viewing direction is approximately the same for all four viewpoints, toward the top of the first image.
 

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Thanks. Here's that image zoomed a bit and contrast enhanced to show the structure a bit better:

 
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And here I've matched both those two photos by scaling them so the building matches exactly (within a pixel, see the fringe), which shows how the trail moved over time



This type of leaning drift is typical of a horizontal contrail near the horizon.
 
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Trailspotter

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I have located the viewpoint of photos #5 and 6:

56° 0'51.39"N 37°11'20.79"E

Here is fit of #5 to a 3D building and the Sun:

DNA trail p5.jpg

I also have modeled the trail by trial and error; the trail is about 10 miles long and 20 miles away (in the centre point) from Zelenograd, above the Moscow suburb Mytishchi:

DNA trail map.jpg

The modeled trail fits reasonably well in the previously fitted photos #1, 2 and 4. Here is a fit for #1:

DNA trail p1 fit.jpg
 

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That's excellent! I think that demonstrates very clearly that it's a very long horizontal contrail with a twist that looks odd primarily because of perspective foreshortening. Its like the contrail below, but viewed end on from 20 miles away

 
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Jay Reynolds

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I'll say magnificent job.

Better still will be to supply a KML file for the trail so that anyone can view this in Google Earth to verify the fit from any point and from all photos.
 

Mick West

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I'll say magnificent job.

Better still will be to supply a KML file for the trail so that anyone can view this in Google Earth to verify the fit from any point and from all photos.

If you want to do that, you'll need to direct link the photos to web based version not local versions. All six photos above have direct URLs

http://contrailscience.com/skitch/Kryukovskaya_Pier-20121228-090434.jpg
http://contrailscience.com/skitch/Solar_alley-20121228-090613.jpg
http://contrailscience.com/skitch/3_the_20th_district-20121228-090703.jpg
http://contrailscience.com/skitch/4_Savelkinsky_fare-20121228-090839.jpg
http://contrailscience.com/skitch/skitched-20121228-135553.jpg
http://contrailscience.com/skitch/skitched-14-20121228-135931.jpg

Then you can make a folder and move or copy the photos, trail polygon, and position markers in. Then on the folder "Save Place As" ... and save a KML or KMZ file.

You can actually make a KMZ with the images included. I've never done this though:
https://developers.google.com/kml/documentation/kmzarchives
 

Trailspotter

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If you want to do that, you'll need to direct link the photos to web based version not local versions.

This caused a minor refitting, as the change of image files restored the default FOV. Here is the KMZ file:


The sunlight is set for photo #5 (12/24/2012 6:40 AM UTC); it could be switched off for the others.
 

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Trailspotter

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I'll say magnificent job.

Better still will be to supply a KML file for the trail so that anyone can view this in Google Earth to verify the fit from any point and from all photos.

The fit itself does not prove that the trail was horizontal, but it proves that the helix cloud was at least 10 miles away in the eastern direction. The areas further east are also densely populated, but there were no reports of unusual sightings in the sky. It is either because of some cloud cover, or because the trail looked quite ordinary at a closer view. I'm still searching in russian sources for photos of a relevant patch of the sky taken in these areas on that morning, but so far without success.

However, there is a strong evidence, that it was a horizontal rather than vertical trail. All these photos are made in the morning in the eastern direction, that is, toward the rising Sun. The later found photo #5 confirmed this directly. Yet in all photos, the helix appears to be illuminated from the front rather than backlit, like the buildings below. This is exactly how a horisontal trail would look from the end if it were illuminated from the bottom by a low winter Sun.
 

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The very even lighting would also tend to indicate it is horizontal. A vertical trail would have differences in lighting conditions between top and bottom.

Vertical trails of any size also do not sheer evenly. The movement of the trail between #4 and #7 (in post 15 above), would be impossible with a vertical trail. It's basically an affine transform (preserving any straight lines within the structure), which you can only get if you are looking at a horizontal trail from an angle and it shifts sideways.
 

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Some related images from the Reddit thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/15eu7o/spiral_cloud_near_moscow_last_morning/






 
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Photo #8 is apparently taken at the airport Sheremetyevo (SVO), halfway between Zelenograd and the location of my modeled contrail and in the same viewing direction.

Agreed. And I'm thinking this means the trail is further away than you have it, and probably higher. It's a bit hard to tell with the single line you were using. Try an Image overlay:
View attachment Helix Image Overlay.kml

uses this linked image:


Stretched out better.


But still needs fiddling
 
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Trailspotter

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Agreed. And I'm thinking this means the trail is further away than you have it, and probably higher.
...
But still needs fiddling

Well, my initial fitting was just to find an approximate area, above which this trail was residing. It is hardly possible to refine it further without knowing EXIF data of the photos, or without more photos of the trail taken from a wider area.

For example, I have refitted #5 from a new viewpoint a few metres closer to the tower building (where its presumed author stands in #6), using a wider FOV. After that, I have refitted the trail that resulted in its displacement by about 1.5 miles to the North. It has improved the trail fit with #4, but worsen the fits with #1 and 2. But these differences may well be insignificant, because the trail was moving, as follows from the comparison of #4 and 7 above, and all these photos could have been taken at somewhat different times.

As for the new photo #8, it is taken in portrait mode and its bottom edge is level or above horizon. This suggests that the near (top) end of the trail was quite high in the sky (40-45°), or 6-7 miles away (even less, if its altitude was lower than 6 miles).
 

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Yes, the trail is definitely moving, probably to the left (North), although it's hard to say. It would be nice to get the actual time the images were taken. But I think it's all pretty settled anyway.
 

Trailspotter

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Yes, the trail is definitely moving, probably to the left (North), although it's hard to say.

There was a light eastern (ENE) wind at the Sheremetyevo airport that morning:

http://rp5.ru/Архив_погоды_в_аэропорту_Шереметьево

It was on the ground, but, it is likely that the high wind direction was generally the same, that is, along the trail and toward the observers in Zelenograd. This could be a reason why the appearance of the trail remained essentially the same; it did not drift far aside but just got stretched as it come closer.

I have located the viewpoint of photo #8 in Sheremetyevo and fitted it in Google Earth:

DNA trail p8.jpg

As the terminal 3D building was offset compared with the aerial photo, I did not use its image for the fit, just aligned the roof level. Instead, I used the three lamposts in front of the terminal, the positions of which are indicated by their shadows in the aerial photo. The trail image overlapped well with my earlier model of this trail without any additional effort from my side.
 

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GregMc

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There's an interesting satellite pic I noticed on gizmag's "best nasa photos of 2012".
Looks like a helical cloud
http://www.gizmag.com/top-nasa-images-2012/25585/

http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/nasa2012-7.jpg

In the centre of the image amongst the cloud streets is what resembles a helical cloud viewed from above, but it is also close in appearance to a more familiar Kaman vortex street. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street

Vortex spiral in lee of mountain peak http://www.avonhgpg.co.uk/images/gallery/clouds.jpg
 
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This shows that spiral type structures are not restricted to the lower atmosphere:

 
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