Mike Adams' "good gopher" search engine

Leifer

Senior Member.
Mike Adams of NaturalNews, publicly unveiled his new 'pre-filtered' "GoodGopher" search engine.


From the 'about' section......

About Good Gopher
GoodGopher was developed by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, editor of NaturalNews.com. Adams was formerly the CEO of a very successful software company. He's now using his technical expertise to create GoodGopher which will benefit all "alternative" websites publishing TRUTH rather than propaganda.
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Good Gopher's Pledge of Integrity
GoodGopher is the world's first privacy-protected search engine that filters our corporate propaganda and government disinformation.
http://www.goodgopher.com/About.asp
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(edited 5/31/15, added a more correct quote)
Their claim (found in the video) that Google .... 'penalizes or bans independent websites' needs to be proved, or at least proved to me.
I'm not saying it couldn't or doesn't happen, but I can certainly find any 'alternative' health or "independent truth" idea or website I could imagine. I could find perhaps, "vegan neo-nazi" , a phrase I just imagined while typing this, and it's there.
I could also find hard criticism about Google the company....on a Google search.
If Google can't or won't stop these type search results about themselves, why would they bother censoring anything Mike Adams thinks his followers are interested in ?

This is another attempt to help people isolate their ideas and their search results. It's another way of 'searching for things they already believe in', and confirming their bias.
The hypocrisy can be stunning....where in order to avoid the accused 'mass media' selective censorship, their answer seems to be outright selective censorship.

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Sausalito

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They're currently accepting site suggestions ahead of their unveiling. I would love to see the accumulating list.
 

Whitebeard

Senior Member.
sorry, couldn't help myself, put this in as a suggested site
http://www.dhmo.org/
Welcome to the web site for the Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division (DMRD), currently located in Newark, Delaware. The controversy surrounding dihydrogen monoxide has never been more widely debated, and the goal of this site is to provide an unbiased data clearinghouse and a forum for public discussion.
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Sausalito

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I had already put my snarky 2 cents in, but I decided to toss in another bid for your classic dhmo suggestion. Here's what popped up:
dhmo derpgopher.png
Not sure what to make of that. Guess I'll check back in a few weeks.
 

deirdre

Senior Member.
Their claim that Google searches edit or withhold query results....needs to be proved
you forgot to put the claim in your post
With your help, we are building the internet's largest search engine for those searching for information and news on liberty, natural healing, central banks, food freedom, advanced science and a multitude of other topics no longer allowed in NSA-controlled search engines.
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https://archive.is/BzPU8



whats sad is i searched "geoengineering" on a clean browser and got this... so much for Googles "quality content algorithms"
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and this scares me a bit:
http://searchenginewatch.com/sew/ho...turned-up-social-signals-as-a-ranking-factor#

this is just kinda cool:
http://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/google-algorithm-visual-history-infographic
 

Pete Tar

Senior Member.
How about National Report?
So I guess this logically means there has to be some kind of blacklist of websites they *don't* want people to see; it'll be interesting to see that list.
 

Herman Aven

Member
... so much for Googles "quality content algorithms"

Although there are plans for quality to mean more as well "factual " or "closer to consensus view", right now with quality Google means generally stuff like "original research, citations, links, reviews and testimonials" and "not mass-produced or outsourced on a large number of other sites". -- source at Google
 

Auldy

Senior Member.
oh dear..

Natural News has gone from giving out pickaxes for deepening the rabbit hole to full blown open pit mining. Gopher is a good name for it..
 

mrfintoil

Senior Member.
vaccine impactJust as a little comparison. Search query: Vaccine

Top Google hits:

• Vaccine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine

• Vaccination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination

• Vaccine - Journal - Elsevier
www.journals.elsevier.com/vaccine/

• Vaccine - ScienceDirect.com
www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/0264410X

• Vaccines.gov: Home
www.vaccines.gov/

• Vaccines: HOME page for Vaccines and Immunizations site
www.cdc.gov/vaccines/

• WHO | Vaccines
www.who.int/topics/vaccines/en/

• WebMD Vaccines Center – Adult Vaccination Information
www.webmd.com/vaccines/

• Vaccines and Immunization | Facts and Information
www.vaccines.com/
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Versus top GoodGopher hits:

• vaccine fanaticism - truthwiki
http://www.truthwiki.org/v

• --no title--
http://www.bsfreepress.net/vaccines-archive.htm

• vaccine impact
http://www.vaccineimpact.com/

• vaccine articles and information on the naturalnews network,...
http://www.naturalnews.com/list_features_vaccine.html

• polio - a true investigative history - truthwiki
http://www.truthwiki.org/polio-a-true-investigative-history/

• vaccine rights attorney responds to school vaccine contest -...
http://www.naturalnews.com/...11_vaccine_rights_contest.html

• vaccine failure admitted: whooping cough outbreaks higher among...
http://www.naturalnews.com/..._cough_vaccines_outbreaks.html

• merck vaccine fraud exposed by two merck virologists; company...
http://www.naturalnews.com/..._vaccine_False_Claims_Act.html

• vaccine lies: whooping cough outbreaks being triggered by vaccinated...
http://www.naturalnews.com/...g_cough_disease_outbreaks.html

• vaccine push following disneyland measles outbreak is mickey...
http://www.naturalnews.com/...cine_Mickey_Mouse_science.html
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Its safe to say that GoodGopher is every conspiranoid's wettest dream, and potentially one of the most intellectually damaging tools found on the net.
 

mrfintoil

Senior Member.
I wonder, it's just Google who are ranking their content based on accuracy? Why not just use Bing, or Yahoo Search? However, the official NaturalNews still comes first on all search engines I have tried. Not much of censorship is it...
 

Hevach

Senior Member.
Other sites have different kinds of filtering that ends up targeting conspiracy sites indirectly. Bing is particularly aggressive about downranking pages that have had malware alerts, which hits anyone who uses shady advertising providers that don't ask too many questions - conspiracy sites are an afterthought on that list (porn and torrents being most of it), but certain ones get hit and drag down anyone linked to them.

But aside from DMCA takedowns, none of them completely omit results, and no matter how far down they rank them, there's a relevance floor that keeps them from falling too far. So conspiracy heavy searches on Google will still be heavily dominated by conspiracy results, even if you (sometimes, the process is hardly good) get a debunk or semi-neutral wikipedia entry first.
 

Trailblazer

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Staff member
In a nicely ironic turn of events, Mike Adams's main site, naturalnews.com has now been blacklisted by Google.

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-...oles-natural-news-investigative-articles.html

Adams is less keen when the boot is on the other foot.


  • Today, Natural News has been hit by Google, which has blacklisted the entire Natural News domain and removed over 140,000 pages from its index. The take down of Natural News happened this morning, and it follows a pattern of censorship we’re seeing being leveled against other pro-Trump websites. Google sent no warning whatsoever to our “webmaster tools” email address on file with them. The shut off of Natural News was clearly driven by a human decision, not an algorithm. We’re currently attempting to determine Google’s claimed justification for censoring our entire website, and we hope to have NaturalNews.com restored in Google’s index.
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Of course, Adams made the point that Good Gopher would use human decisions to blacklist sites, rather than rely on algorithms. From http://www.goodgopher.com/About.asp:

When enough users flag a link as "Bad Gopher!" we review the URL and parent domain to determine whether it should be banned from our index. "Bad Gopher!" clicks do not affect rankings, so trolls have no reason to arbitrarily click links for sites they don't like.
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deirdre

Senior Member.
Mike Adams's main site, naturalnews.com has now been blacklisted by Google
Hearsay of course but,

John Mueller, a Webmaster Trends Analysts at Google, has now posted on Twitter saying Google did post a message about the penalty in Google Search Console. He also added a thread that the site was penalized due to sneaky mobile redirects. John said:

Hi! I work with the Google Search team. We’re seeing a bit of confusion & incorrect stories circulating about what’s happening here, so just to be super clear — Natural News is using a sneaky mobile redirect, which is prohibited by our webmaster guidelines (there’s a bit about this kind of issue at https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2015/10/detect-and-get-rid-of-unwanted-sneaky.html ).

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