Max Bliss performs seamless 180 U-Turn on global warming.

TWCobra

Senior Member.
As little as 6 weeks ago, Max Bliss was angrily denouncing global warming as a fraud.

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His The R.E.A.L institute FB page also contained numerous references to the supposed scam and his disagreement with Dane Wigington and others on this question. These references are now removed from his page but they looked a little like this:

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Max often trumpets the depth of his research. He has been in this area now for over three years. His Youtube channel contains hundreds of videos all claiming the global warming fraud apart from the last two which have these explanatory notes;




So we see how easy it is in the chemtrail world to ditch years of supposed research when confronted by a more dominant ego; Dane Wigington, and an easier argument to support; that global warming is actually happening.

Questions for Max Bliss:

!. Are your numerous Youtube videos containing the claim that Global Warming is a scam now going to be bulk deleted?

2. Are you going to explain to your followers that you were either;

a. Wrong about Global Warming being a scam... bearing in mind that this may bring you into conflict with many perhaps less dominant players who still believe it is; or

b. are you simply going to ignore the U-turn in the hope that none of your followers noticed?

You need to be quick Max... your R.E.A.L Institute page still contains such evidently false and conflicting claims such as this..

https://www.facebook.com/the.real.institute.max.bliss#

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Are you going to tell Lesley and Deanna they are also wrong? Such are the condundrums generated by your expediency.

Are you going to admit that your last few years of "research" was based on a false premise?
 
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Mick West

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This does not seem like a u-turn to me. In the first video he's not saying that there's no global warming, he's saying it's not so bad, because the earth has warmed before. It's the "fear mongering" he's calling a hoax.

In the second video, he says that the the global warming is largely caused by contrails, and this warming is being used to continue the hoax ("fool the public").
 

Joe

Senior Member
This does not seem like a u-turn to me. In the first video he's not saying that there's no global warming, he's saying it's not so bad, because the earth has warmed before. It's the "fear mongering" he's calling a hoax.

In the second video, he says that the the global warming is largely caused by contrails, and this warming is being used to continue the hoax ("fool the public").
Id agree with him there . I believe a lot of our weather is now influenced by contrails .
 

scombrid

Senior Member.
Belief.

Quantitative measurements.

Same validity?

I guess it is an easy belief to have though. You can see contrails. You can't see CO2. But seeing isn't the only way of measuring. Nor is it the best in a lot of cases.
 

Trigger Hippie

Senior Member.
Previously he has denied the green house effect (global warming) existed.

Found this in a quick search. March 2014, he's implying global warming is a fraud. watch?v=PfWq3dbBexM

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and also from March 5, 2014...

 
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WeedWhacker

Senior Member
I believe a lot of our weather is now influenced by contrails .

Evidence?

I mean, if I said that I "believe" that unicorn farts are causing the Earth to rotate on its axis, then I should have some proof to back up the claim.
 

Mick West

Administrator
Staff member
Let's keep this to the topic of Max's opinion on Global Warming.

I don't see anywhere that he says we are not warming, just that the magnitude of the problem is being exploited for financial purposes. The fraud (in his mind) is the suggestion that it's a major problem.
 

TWCobra

Senior Member.
In the first video in the OP (pre Wigington schism).."Global warming is a fraudulent claim".

Now we have "chemtrails are an exotic weapon to force the climate".

This is a new claim from Max and it contradicts the previous claim. It happened after the public spat with Wigington.

It seem pretty clear to me, others may disagree.
 

Ross Marsden

Senior Member.
I think there are several flavors of the global warming skepticism.
1) The "greenhouse gases" theory is a crock. Global climate changes all the time; we may be in a bit of an up-tick; it's caused by orbital variations and solar output variation.
2) Accepts "greenhouse gases" theory, but anthropomorphic CO2 production is nothing to do with climate change. Global climate changes all the time, etc.
3) Accepts "greenhouse gases" theory, but anthropomorphic CO2 production is nothing to do with climate change. Climate or weather is intentionally being warmed or at least manipulated by the use of chemtrails for geopolitical reasons.
4) Agnostic about "greenhouse gases" theory. Global climate changes all the time, etc.
5) Agnostic about "greenhouse gases" theory. Climate or weather is intentionally being warmed or manipulated by the use of chemtrails for geopolitical reasons.
6) Agnostic about "greenhouse gases" theory. Agnostic about global warming. Weather is intentionally being manipulated by the use of chemtrails for unknown reasons. Just doesn't like the idea of stuff being sprayed out of planes.
7) ... and so on.

I think Dane Wigington is a #3 or #5, Max Bliss is a #5 (and I suspect always has been), and George Barnes of SkyderAlert is a #6.
 

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