Mars Face on original NASA Photo? (2014)

Guys, WTF! This is Fake or what?
This face-shape looks TOO specific and i wonder why Mars Rover didn't examine this one.
I am speechless...this can't be Pareidolia. Did we ignore that?

Mars Data:
Target NameMars
Its a satellite ofSol (our sun)
Mission Mars Science Laboratory (MSL)
Spacecraft Curiosity
Instrument Mastcam
Product Size9074 x 2287 pixels (w x h)
Produced by Malin Space Science Systems
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https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/pia17931
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA17931_fig1.jpg
 
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You mean this:

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Maybe something that looks like an eye and a very pointed nose? I'd call that pareidolia.

Or do you mean this:

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Like we're looking down on an elongated alien head with an eye just sorta visible? I'd call that pareidolia too.
 
Your thread title.. sigh.

Anyway, it is all pareidolia. Or are you trying to troll us.
 
This face-shape looks TOO specific
Specific to what exactly? and which face?
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and i wonder why Mars Rover didn't examine this one.
Probably because this was one of many pictures with hundreds of rocks, it takes a while to send instructions and they have more important things than going back to an area they've already been just to research a rock that might be a face of some kind even though nothing in the surroundings indicate any form of designed architecture.
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(in case someone doesn't want to play a Where's Waldo on where the face is meant to be)
I am speechless...this can't be Pareidolia.
It can certainly be pareidolia, I'm interested in knowing what you think Pareidolia is and why you think this can't be it
 
I would too, but...this is pretty specific, isn't it. How can this be on Mars if its not Pareidolia? Then it would change, has changed all.

I would disagree, it's not very specific at all. It's some hard shadows that make a number of shapes. Some can sorta look like some parts of a face, but it's hardly an entire face. I'm still not sure what part exactly we're talking about.

Pareidolia is a strong force in human brains, our evolutionary survival depended upon pattern recognition. In addition, unlike dogs or other animals with strong senses of smell, we rely on facial recognition to know each other. Our brains are wired to see faces.
 
Pareidolia.

A pic that an acquaintance took when leaving Gibraltar. Just a random photo with zero manipulation or any intent to deceive.

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But a closer examination of the clouds reveals two stunning accidental images.
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With random references:
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It's uncanny. But it happens.
 
Agree, with the Arguments. I just thought that this shapes looks pretty unique to a human face. Even if nothing in the near looks similar. The amount of Shapes of the Rocks could certainly form a lot of Pareidolia. We can wait for next Face...i don't hope we find another one.
 
but...this is pretty specific, isn't it
If there is consensus that I should retire this example and find another, I will do so... but it is such a GOOD example of just how convincing pareidolia can be. I had an amazingly difficult time seeing past the illusion to what is really there, first time I saw it.

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Pareidolia can lead you to imagine all sorts of things. Faces on Mars, huge dark triangular craft made from any three random dots of light, Iranian motherships sending drones, "signs" in the clouds ...the human brain is good at seeing human faces that aren't really there.
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It can certainly be pareidolia, I'm interested in knowing what you think Pareidolia is and why you think this can't be it
Pareidolia is seeing faces or known shapes (mostly human adult faces or animals or other things) in Noise or Noise Pattern or random structures (clouds, galaxy). That is absolute normal, because Humans also Animals are "trained" to recognize faces or learn to see known shapes.

I didn't write that its made by somebody. For now, we know there is no Life on Mars. "This can't be" means that i am very surprised. Its maybe not a common term of amazement...but i used for.

Why it is specific - for me? The density of the varying surface structure that forms a half face is remarkable. Eyelid, nasolabial wrinkle, triangle nose, eyebrow / forehead in this clearness and arrangement is pretty unique of random Rock Structure. Sure there are pareidolia, but not in this uniqueness, for now, imho. If that make any sense. I have not viewed all stones yet...but if we find a similar "whatever" then i shit bricks.

@Ann K Yes, you are very creative

@MonkeeSage nice to have a different angle and light. I see "Face with Beard with closed eyes". Still pretty cool, but different. The Eye is less pronounced and the structure more washed out. Seems also the other original is stretched...
 
@BlackHoleNFO

I am pretty baffled by the notion you find it more likely it is something special (alien) over something mundane like a funny looking rock (from one viewpoint only mind you). What makes you believe the chances are higher? Even though there are no other known cases of a "face" actually being really alien.
I am honestly curious how your thought process works.
 
I am speechless...this can't be Pareidolia. Did we ignore that?

So....the ancient Martian civilisation got wiped out, and there is not a trace visible of any of their roads, buildings, foundations, bones, walls, irrigation projects, dams, farming, metal tools, or any of the implements of a sophisticated society....yet because one rock out of 10 trillion on the surface of Mars 'looks vaguely like' a face that's all the evidence you need ?
 
Pareidolia can lead you to imagine all sorts of things. Faces on Mars, huge dark triangular craft made from any three random dots of light, Iranian motherships sending drones, "signs" in the clouds ...the human brain is good at seeing human faces that aren't really there.
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Not to mention all the Martian faces you're missing in that picture.
For all we know they look like Jellyfish/Spiders whatever
 
For me personally, this report would be closed

Our brains are easily fooled by different shadows cast on stones, clouds, bodies of water, buildings, etc. The brain stores "photos" of things we have seen at some point. The brain then compares outlines with shadows and as a result different people see different things from the same shadow image. This can also be seen in optical illusions, where our brain plays tricks on us.

Here I found a good science report to it into the german science magazin spektrum.de
I translate the complet text into English:

Figure perception
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Faces everywhere
Whether clouds, tree bark or the moon - all kinds of objects often seem to have human features. Where does this illusion come from and what happens in the brain?

The Viking 1 space probe photographed the Martian highlands of Cydonia Mensae in 1976. One snapshot from the series of images made headlines: It showed a human face. Although NASA assured that this optical illusion was based only on the interplay of light and shadow, many contemporaries saw the supposed face as the work of a lost civilization.

High-resolution images from 2001 then confirmed that the narrow female face was actually a rock formation several kilometers across. The blurriness of the original image combined with a certain angle of lighting had created the illusion. Strictly speaking, there had never been a continuous face to be seen, but merely a collection of light and dark areas. Our brain simply puts these together to form a face, because it has an astonishing sensitivity to the human physiognomy. Because of this innate urge to give meaning to structures - called "pareidolia" - we think we see human likenesses in sockets, cars or houses.

The human brain has an amazing sensitivity to faces. That's why we sometimes think we see them in inanimate objects.

Face recognition is based on our innate ability to recognize "figures". Our brain combines incoming sensory information into a unified whole and assigns meaning to this perception.

Several brain areas in the temporal and occipital lobes are involved in face recognition and work in a coordinated manner.

The Canadian psychologist Craig Mooney discovered this in the 1950s. He transformed a total of 40 portrait photos taken from different angles into seemingly meaningless patterns of black and white spots. Despite this, most of the test subjects to whom he showed these distorted images were able to recognize human faces in them.

The black and white drawings are now known as "Mooney faces". Mooney's results have been confirmed time and again since then; even if you mix a completely random spot pattern into the series, most people can easily identify which image is not based on a human face. However, if you turn the Mooney faces upside down, they are much more difficult to identify. The brain's facial recognition apparently only works perfectly with upright images.

The rules according to which the brain interprets incomplete shapes and contours in the environment as faces belong to the domain of figure psychology.

https://www.spektrum.de/magazin/ges...-oder-gullydeckeln-gesichter-erkennen/1281573
 
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something mundane like a funny looking rock
Perhaps this is a place to mention that in Chichibu, Japan they have a museum called the Chinsekikan (Museum of Curious Rocks) and it houses over 1700 rocks that resemble human faces. Most rocks, of course, do not qualify, but there are a LOT of rocks, and if one in a million of them triggers pareidolia, you can fill a museum. Presumably there will be a Mars Annex, if we ever get to where we can bring back rocks from Mars to Japan cheaply...
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When I saw this thread title I actually glossed over it because I made the assumption that it was the famous Mars face photo. You know the one from 1976 that was all over newspapers and books for the following 30 years

I think yes it's simply another case of pareidolia.

Look at the attached images. One angle a face can appear. The other angle it's just rocks

It's well documented here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(Mars)
 

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I remember in the "Bigfoot on Mars" case, it was established that the shape was actually very close and small. later on I'll go look up how that was done, just running out the door... But if anybody can figure out rough size and distance for this one that might be useful. I guess a tiny little sculpture is more plausible than a 6 inch Bigfoot, but still, would be worth knowing, maybe...
 
Guys, WTF! This is Fake or what?
This face-shape looks TOO specific and i wonder why Mars Rover didn't examine this one.
I am speechless...this can't be Pareidolia. Did we ignore that?

Mars Data:
Target NameMars
Its a satellite ofSol (our sun)
Mission Mars Science Laboratory (MSL)
Spacecraft Curiosity
Instrument Mastcam
Product Size9074 x 2287 pixels (w x h)
Produced by Malin Space Science Systems
Full-Res tiff PIA17931.tif (62.28 MB)


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https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/pia17931
https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA17931_fig1.jpg

It's worse than just Mars. The aliens clearly took over the Moon too....

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You use Sarcasm because you don't believe in intelligent Life in the Universe?
Complete non sequitur. We are discussing photos from Mars; we are not talking about the universe. We can't probe distant planets all over the universe, but that doesn't mean we haven't probed our planetary next door neighbor with a number of rovers sending back information to earth. A few years from now we expect actual samples to be returned to us, and we may find out if Mars has ever had life on it, but realistically, bacterial life would be the most we could hope for.
 
You use Sarcasm because you don't believe in intelligent Life in the Universe?
Intelligent life in the Universe does not equal intelligent life on Mars. For that matter, it does not equal aliens can and do come here and fly around, since we talk about UFOs a lot here.

Me, I do not BELIEVE in intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Nor do I disbelieve. Since we have no data, I try to hold off forming an opinion just yet.
 
Originally posted on the "Claim: Pareidolia is bias" thread:

We now know no sane human-type species would choose to settle on Mars in the past, because of the clear warnings of the
Daemonic Alien Big Cats of Cydonia, emblazoned on the Martian surface near the Human Skull of Cydonia.

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(If you squint a bit, the top one gets a leonine mane too).


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Pareidolia is subjective- what might seem an obvious likeness to some might be unconvincing, or not immediately apparent/ not seen until features are pointed out, to others.

Portuguese footballer (soccer player) Cristiano Ronaldo is regarded as one of the greatest players ever.
Some claim to see his likeness in the misshapen lump of metal at left:

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Genuine photo, at the bust's unveiling at Madeira airport, March 2017.
 
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@BlackHoleNFO didn't say they believe in aliens on Mars, they were bringing an image that they thought was remarkable to our attention.
I'm not sure "...this can't be pareidolia" in the OP was meant to be taken literally (though it reads that way).

They later posted,
Agree, with the Arguments. I just thought that this shapes looks pretty unique to a human face.

Must admit, when the Cydonia "face" photos were first made public, I wondered, just a little, if there might be some extraordinary explanation.
 
Anyone remember the alien crab in a crevice? ("meh"). I found the zoomed-out version and looked for other, much better examples and found a few nearby within minutes.. Because pareidolia! I present a crow head. Africa. And a cheetah head.

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I also found this excellent frog with its back to us, in other Mars imagery..
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..and this unmistakeable puppy face with large ear
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Let us not forget the whole series of papers from the "Astrobiology Research Center" team that interprets NASA photos of rock formations in creative ways to claim there had been complex life on Mars that was perhaps linked to life on Earth for... reasons. Including this "humanoid" and "dog's head with helmet."
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Let us not forget the whole series of papers from the "Astrobiology Research Center" team that interprets NASA photos of rock formations in creative ways to claim there had been complex life on Mars that was perhaps linked to life on Earth for... reasons. Including this "humanoid" and "dog's head with helmet."View attachment 75132View attachment 75133
No, that's obviously an alligator, sand-surfing. The white one appears to be a fortune cookie, sans fortune.

I can do this all day with Martian rocks, but as long as there are other people desperate to find sci-fi objects, I don't need to.
 
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