Jet fuel damages human cells - study

MikeC

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I can see this being the next foundation for all things evil about chemtrails - SEE - THEY ARE POISONING US!!

Obviously "many years exposure" is not the same as being 35,00 feet under flight paths or even near an airport - as a health and safety issue it is more likely to be something that mechanics and refuelrs and fuel company staff have to worry about.
 

Dan Wilson

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Yeah I don't think this necessarily translates to the average person. It would be nice if they had a link to a published study. What kind of cellular damage are they talking about?

What a terrible job they are doing of poisoning us.
 

Hevach

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Between the bitterant and the fact that you can get frostbite from it, I never believed anyone could actually huff this stuff, but then I did an IT call at a warehouse and while I was there the manager was flipping out about a worker's comp claim from somebody who ended up losing part of his nose to frostbite after trying to huff canned air on the job.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is: If you're inhaling jet fuel, you've probably got worse problems than cell damage.
 

MikeC

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When I was an apprentice we did defuel/refuel sealing of Boeing 737 fuel tanks - they are plenty big enough for skinny 18 year old's to crawl through, so it is a little bit personal to me.

This involved going back into a tank after a major structural repair to the wing front spar that also forms the front wall of hte tank, and applying a smally messy 2-part "rubber" seal to the joins, then refueling, checking for leaks, defueling and going back in (after overnight forced ventilation to be fair) and applying more of this gunk to anywhere that might have been leaking.

Almost 40 years alter it might explain a thing or 2...but I don't remember what exactly....:D
 

MikeC

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It's not sealed when all the access panels are taken off so you can do major structural repairs and to let hte apprentices in! :)

Check the underneath of an airliner wing - you'll see a line of small oval panels that can be removed - that's how you get in!

Eg in this diagram they are the small ovals on wing on the right of the picture:
 

deirdre

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It's not sealed when all the access panels are taken off so you can do major structural repairs and to let hte apprentices in
I guess I mean... is there cross ventilation? I cant tell what im looking at with diagrams.
 

MikeC

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No - you ventilate each separately - you take out some or all of the access panels on one wing, then blow air in through some so it passes through the tank and out the others.

The tanks do have a venting system for normal use of course - to allow air in to replace used fuel - but that's not quite the same thing as a big blower! :)

Here's a rough schematic -

[Broken External Image]:http://www.rhineair.com/images/underwing-access-panel1.png
 

LouV

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The study seems to be a part of a larger project, "Jet Fuel Exposure Syndrome (JFES) Study", and is published on websites from the Australian Department of Defense :
http://www.airforce.gov.au/News/Rel...-Study/?RAAF-ixlzU1OW9mmQGnY0042BMTiw1OOJ/API
http://f111.dva.gov.au/studies.htm
It is more precisely called "Report on the Molecular Investigations into the Jet Fuel and solvent exposure in the DeSeal/ReSeal programme conducted at the Mater Research Institute (UQ), Brisbane". On one of the pages, this is shortened "JFES Molecular Investigations Report".
 

Jaded

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I can see this being the next foundation for all things evil about chemtrails - SEE - THEY ARE POISONING US!!

Obviously "many years exposure" is not the same as being 35,00 feet under flight paths or even near an airport - as a health and safety issue it is more likely to be something that mechanics and refuelrs and fuel company staff have to worry about.
My father was an aircraft mechanic at the Alameda Naval Air Station in CA for over 20 years. He worked on the jet fuel systems and that required crawling around in the wings. When he came home from work he always smelled of jet fuel and his jeans and wallet were saturated (wet) with jet fuel. He also used solvents to wash parts.

Amazingly, his health was really good and he lived to age 86. However, when he was in his mid 50's he got bladder cancer. I always wondered if the jet fuel caused it, but his doctors said the bladder cancer was from smoking. He grew up on a farm and he started smoking home rolled tobacco at a young age. Then he smoked Camel cigarettes (without filters) until Nat King Cole died in 1965. When it was announced that smoking causes lung cancer and that's what killed Nat King Cole, he quit smoking. By that time he had smoked for about 30 years, so it very well could have been the smoking (and not the jet fuel) that caused his cancer. He had chemotherapy for the bladder cancer and it never did return.

That being said, everyone is different and chemicals can affect people differently. I have Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and I probably couldn't stand being exposed to jet fuel for any length of time. I have an MTHFR enzyme deficiency (gene defect) which reduces my ability to detox by about 40%. But people who inherited defective genes from both parents can have a 90% reduction in their ability to detox. So I would imagine that any health effects from jet fuel would depend on the length of time one is exposed, the quantity/concentration they are exposed to, the route of exposure (skin, lungs), and how well the person's detoxification (methylation) cycle is working.
 

MikeC

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Yep - I was a civilian mechanic (and apprentice) for 7 years and also overhauled fuel system parts and crawled around in tanks, and everyone in the industry used kerosene as a solvent. Not so much now I think - this was het late 70's and early 80's for me.

The only time I recall anyone having any problem was a mechanic who sat on the top of a drum not noticing that there was a small puddle of fuel.....and the kerosene irritated his delicate parts!!:eek:
 

M Bornong

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Yeah I don't think this necessarily translates to the average person. It would be nice if they had a link to a published study. What kind of cellular damage are they talking about?

What a terrible job they are doing of poisoning us.
Jim Lee has been pushing this study, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3587983/ on his various facebook pages. https://www.facebook.com/epicsuccess/posts/1689075017980031
Fallon.jpg


I did point out that the Fallon NV incident was most likely caused by a pipeline leak of JP-8 under a school and wasn't coming from the airplanes. I never recieved a reply.
https://www.hcn.org/issues/46.4/fallon-nevadas-deadly-legacy
 
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Dan Wilson

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Jim Lee has been pushing this study,
I think you were correct in the criticism. It's pretty obvious that daily injections of jet fuel at 500mg/kg is going to be bad for the organism. It's always unfortunate when people refuse to discuss a topic like this.
 
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