Investigating: Rain on Request

Balance

Senior Member.
This one is odd - chemtrail conspiracy theorist (Terry Lawton again) calls advertiser of "weather modifications services" to enquire about stopping the heavy rainfalls that are currently hitting his homeland


OK, he admits it wasn't a serious request, rather a ruse to garner evidence of something.

However, there's something sketchy about this company - possibly worthy of it's own thread?

Here's their promo video

It's actually just a startup company needing funding and managed to get some MSM air-time

They're called Rain On Request but a little digging throws up some unexpected results. Whois is a good start http://whois.domaintools.com/rainonrequest.com

Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: IT IT Department
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: 1111 Kane Concourse, Suite 518
Registrant City: Bay Harbor Islands
Registrant State/Province: FL
Registrant Postal Code: 33315
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8588764395
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [Broken External Image]:http://source.domaintools.com/email...FFF&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: IT Dept Rain Precipitation Systems LLC
Admin Organization:
Admin Street: 1111 Kane Concourse, Suite 518
Admin City: Bay Harbor Islands
Admin State/Province: FL
Admin Postal Code: 33315
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.8588764395
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [Broken External Image]:http://source.domaintools.com/email...FFF&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: IT Dept Rain Precipitation Systems LLC
Tech Organization:
Tech Street: 1111 Kane Concourse, Suite 518
Tech City: Bay Harbor Islands
Tech State/Province: FL
Tech Postal Code: 33315
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.8588764395
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: [Broken External Image]:http://source.domaintools.com/email...FFF&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent
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A bit of company registration info from http://www.companies-florida.com/rain-precipitation-systems-llc-26tzy/


Business informations for RAIN PRECIPITATION SYSTEMS LLC

  • Name

    RAIN PRECIPITATION SYSTEMS LLC

  • Identification number:

    L11000049123

  • -



  • Business Type

    Florida Limited Liability

  • Company Status

    Active

  • Incorporation date

    04/25/2011

  • Last statement

    -

  • Business Address

    610 SW 34TH ST
    SUITE 307
    FT. LAUDERDALE

  • Mailing Address

    610 SW 34TH ST
    SUITE 307
    FT. LAUDERDALE

  • State

    FL

  • FEI/EIN Number

    NOT APPLICABLE

  • Officer detail

    WORLDWIDE AVIATION GROUP, LLC
    610 SW 34TH ST, 307
    FT LAUDERDALE US

    D.P. ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS LTD
    ALFASSI ST. 17 SUITE 30
    BEER SHEVA, ISRAEL IL

    GITMAN DAVID
    610 SW 34TH ST, 307
    FT LAUDERDALE FL

  • Agent

    MONARCH AIR GROUP LLC
    610 SW 34TH ST
    FT. LAUDERDALE FL 33315
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I'm sure someone will join dots with the Israel link but it's the business relationship to Aviation that's intrigued me, especially as their proposed system uses a HAARP-esque technology, not aircraft. Perhaps it's nothing more than a website admin managing several unrelated company's sites?
 
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Trailblazer

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I'm sure someone will join dots with the Israel link but it's the business relationship to Aviation that's intrigued me, especially as their proposed system uses a HAARP-esque technology, not aircraft. Perhaps it's nothing more than a website admin managing several unrelated company's sites?

The address (610 SW 34th St) is on Fort Lauderdale airport. There seem to be lots of aircraft services companies based there, as you'd expect.

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David Gitman, who seems to be the only employee of Rain on Request, is also a manager of Monarch Air Group, a leasing/charter firm based in the same location. So it may be that this is just a side project for him, and he uses his main office address.

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http://www.bbb.org/south-east-flori...arch-air-group-in-fort-lauderdale-fl-90025407
 

Balance

Senior Member.
So it may be that this is just a side project for him, and he uses his main office address.

Without paying I can't find much company info but it seems David is an inventor/entrepeneur (or wannabe). I found one filing record for the Rain Precipation service showing $46K turnover (and the reporting site showed this as 145% down on last year) but nothing about the aircraft charter business and nothing about his Rain on Request business (which I suspect is still just an idea wanting funding).

The active Rain business venture seems to be based upon monitoring/predicting rain equipment (he claims to have improved the "glass graded catchment container" method to some hi-tech electronic system) and sold those services/products.

What I find intriguing is he's selling the idea rain can be encouraged by ionisation, using a local array of transmitters - sound familiar? - while apparently being in the air (transport/leasing/charter?) business which is known to have proven cloud-seeding ability.
 
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Balance

Senior Member.
David Gitman, who seems to be the only employee of Rain on Request,

I wonder who the "Larry" is that Terry Lawton speaks with in the first video (not really). ETA: Manager, Larry Gitman apparently. http://www.10news.com/news/new-comp...ble-to-make-it-rain-whenever-california-wants

ETA: Mini bio's on the team included here https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rain-on-request-make-it-rain#/

That's not unheard of, here's a company claiming to do the same:
http://www.australianrain.com.au

Yes, I've just read about the similar Meteo Systems (of Switzerland) claims of creating 52 rain showers back in 2010.

http://www.livescience.com/10398-rainmaking-middle-eastern-desert-success-scam.html

Strange as it sounds, using ionization for weather-modification attempts is not new. So-called ionization antennas began with a Russian scientist and have since been marketed internationally through several companies, according to Bruintjes at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research.

Such past attempts mostly dried up for lack of funding and results. Bruintjes similarly threw cold water on the Meteo Systems effort and declared himself "very skeptical" about the company's claims.

He also pointed to a report by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), an agency of the United Nations, which cautioned against believing claims regarding weather modification.

"It should be realized that the energy involved in weather systems is so large that it is impossible to create cloud systems that rain, alter wind patterns to bring water vapor into a region, or completely eliminate severe weather phenomena," according to the WMO report.

The WMO report also said that weather-modification technologies such as "ionization methods" had no sound scientific basis and "should be treated with suspicion." The report was updated by weather-modification experts during a meeting in Abu Dhabi in 2010.
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This is the WMO final report in full http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/documents/WMR_documents.final_27_April_1.FINAL.pdf


It seems they were both willing to lie to each other - Terry lied about having millions of $'s to entice conversation, and Larry lied that they can provide both rain on request as well as STOP massive rainfall from storms hitting Ireland (which is what Terry was asking for).
As Terry's claiming the purpose of this video is to prove it's real, I think we can safely say that's a fail.
 
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JFDee

Senior Member.
Our old aquaintance Jim Lee has dedicated a long page to a ragtag collection of pieces about active rainmaking.

http://climateviewer.com/2014/03/26...rainmaking-laser-guided-weather-modification/

Regarding the Russian 'ionisator division', there is an appearance in the weather modification video that I have brought up several times already - "Blue Skies above Moscow" (in German, sorry, no translation). Jump to 6:10.

http://www.3sat.de/mediathek/?mode=play&obj=21910

Short synopsis:
Official agency in Moscow is responsible for blue skies on important parade days
First cloud seeding in 1986, to prevent contaminated precipitation from Chernobyl on city
Since then, lots of assignments for agriculture, all over Russia
Complaints that services are not required as much as during socialist period
Possible future assignments to reduce snowfall over city
WM no help against fires in extreme summer 2010
Vision of controlling nature dates back to socialism, still dreamed about
"Historic" ionization experiment created in a Moscow backyard
Claimed to be scientific and effective, with low energy requirement
Claimed 80% success rate in "hundreds" of experiments

Wet wedding party does not agree with weather modification
Two hours later the weather clears up - obviously no real evidence
Positive consequences of global warming (algae harvesting)
Ambivalence in political discourse about global warming
Negative consequences (thawing of permafrost, danger for industrial structures)
Gazprom artificially freezes ground around important structures (!).
Last question: private orders for WM accepted? Reply: No!

More on the Russian ionization experiments:

http://sputniknews.com/science/20091023/156562804.html
 

Balance

Senior Member.
The Russian angle is interesting.
Jacob Gitman, Ph.D. - Author of over 50 scientific publications and the holder of numerous patents, Jacob Gitman founded a highly successful telecom company as well as one of the first Russian privately owned research and development institutes earlier in his career. Currently, Mr. Gitman is the CEO of the power line technology company SLE International and runs a global aviation business. Given his extensive experience starting and running successful businesses, he offers a truly unique perspective on the different challenges and opportunities facing Rain on Request........He received his undergraduate degree from Moscow State Mining University.
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Marin B

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There does not seem to be a "Dmitry Rototayev" outside of this story.

perhaps an alternative spelling of the last name Rototaev:
from Bloomberg.com

Prof. Dmitry Aleksandrovich Rototaev, Ph.D. serves as General Director of Moscow Science and Technology Committee Company, Ltd. Prof. Rototaev joined Moscow Science and Technology Committee on December 31, 2006. He served as President of OAO Sistema Venture of Sistema JSFC. He served as Chief Executive Officer of OJSC NII Stali. He served as Chairman of OJSC NII Stali. He serves as Director of Moscow Science and Technology Committee Company, Ltd. He serves as the Vice ... President of the Russian Engineering Academy. In 1998, he became Doctor of Engineering and an Academician of the Russian Engineering Academy. In 1995, he became Member of the Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences. He was awarded the State Prize in 1987 and the Lenin Prize in 1988. Prof. Rototaev graduated from the Moscow State Technical University of N.E. Bauman. In 1983, he was awarded a Ph.D.
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JFDee

Senior Member.
It's state owned propaganda, and this seems to be just a "Russian scientists are the best" type story.
Yes, I'm aware of that. My opinion is that officially issued Russian publications related to science need to be scrutinized particularly well. I should have added a comment to the link accordingly.

Even in the "Blue Skies" video I linked, it becomes painfully obvious how scientific thinking is overlaid and even distorted by political aspects, often in terms of "us vs. them" but also by a strong belief in feasibility when it comes to controlling the environment - with total disregard for negative side effects.

My experience is that this is not just about the Putin administration - there were 70 years of socialist thought influence which also has pervaded the science institutions. The senior scientists in the video at 11:35 are unanimously talking about global warming as an issue forced upon Russia by the Western 'block', as a power struggle with "oil-producing countries".

I have some Russian relation in my family, and there I can sense a deeply ingrained mix of longing for past greatness and a touchiness bordering on an inferiority complex when it comes to critical assessment of anything related to Russia. So it's amazingly hard to have a polite discussion about specific issues because the slightest critique about details is quickly perceived as somehow attacking the honor of Russia - and these are academics.
 

Balance

Senior Member.
Here's some of the science as explained by Professor Sergey Pulinets who has been working with ROR team. He's interviewd by Ben Deniston from the LaRouche Political Action Committee Scientific Research Team. https://larouchepac.com/20150506/end-droughts-weather-control-interview-prof-pulinets

As usual, a lot of the science goes over my head, perhaps others will find the information more digestible. However, I found the following statements (bold is mine) telling, considering the upbeat pre-amble about the claimed Mexico's ELAT experiments.
...clearly this issue is met with a lot of skepticism; when you bring this up, a lot of people have a very quick reaction of just dismissing the idea that we can control things such as weather processes, rainfall; but you have done work actually assessing the scientific basis for some of these systems that have been operational for many years and which have been reported to show success in increasing rainfall in Mexico......After that, I became a member of the scientific committee of representatives of the Mexican meteorological agency scientists working in the physics of atmosphere; there was one scientist from the United States. I can give you the list of these scientists who were involved in this committee, who had the purpose to estimate whether the facts produced by this company are real I participated in several meetings of this committee where we discussed their results......I suppose we should organize open and clear, distinct experiments on this, with good scientific support, for scientists to be able to control and to see that such effects really exist. Because, let's say, traditional atmospheric scientists or meteorologists sometimes say it's not possible; so we should at least make these experiments, to demonstrate, first, to the scientific community, and second, to the public, that no danger exists. These effects are no more dangerous than a natural electric field...Yes. I know that such companies exist in Saudi Arabia, maybe in Australia; maybe some are already in Russia, but they are not doing active experiments.
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This article is similar but has more data from the ELAT expirements to mull over though to me, it appears to only show a (dubious) correlation between the systems being "on" and increased precipation vs predicted precipation. http://www.schillerinstitute.org/educ/sci_space/2015/0513-bringing_the_rain.html
...Unfortunately, somewhat amazingly, despite this success, despite all this work that was done developing dozens of stations, consistent beneficial effects, they actually lost support in Mexico, and weren’t able to continue operating there. There was opposition from certain elements of the government in other places to their work. We might mention that a little more throughout the discussion, but this stuff—people can probably imagine—is highly contested and debated by certain people who just axiomatically believe this could never happen. We can’t influence the weather, etc., etc....This particular grouping then went over to Israel, found support in Israel, and from 2011 to 2013, fulfilled a contract to develop three stations (Figure 10)....
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If I've got the theory right, they claim to have an Star Trek-Esque tractor-beam technology that can push-pull humidity from one place to another and ionise it to to increase or decrease rainfall. RainOnRequest it appears, after failing to convince the authorities, tried to crowd-source $1million to build their own test arrays but it seems to have been cancelled after raising just $858. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/rain-on-request-make-it-rain#/ This is it's one and only "Update" since launch

Hello All!!

some exciting developments this week... We had our first news coverage with the story by news 10 in San diego! Thank you Joe Little for the coverage and here is the link!!

http://www.10news.com/news/new-comp...ble-to-make-it-rain-whenever-california-wants
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For a bit of light-humour (see comments on rewards), here's a reddit post in #shittykickstarters on ROR's funding appeal https://www.reddit.com/r/shittykick...s/rain_on_request_dubious_science_overpriced/
 
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