Hurricane Harvey. Cat 4. Major flooding. Conspiracy Theories.

Mick West

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With Hurricane Harvey set to cause historic flooding in Texas, the conspiracy theories have already begun.

http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/geo...vey-exclusive-interview-with-weather-war-101/

In the anti-GeoEngineering community of activistism, we see many theories and many bits and pieces of science, all leading up to the fact that weather manipulation has been and is currently Weaponized by the Power Elite for use against Humanity.

The thrust of this article started out to present an exclusive interview with Weather War 101 conducted by TLB Contributing writer Raphaelle O’Neil. However Hurricane Harvey, via GeoEngineering, is Targeting Texes and is well covered and documented in the following up-to-the-minute Video Report from Weather War 101…
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“As I said in the video, as soon as this storm reaches the shore, On-Land Water Vapor Generation from Texas, Louisiana, etc., will take over fueling this storm, and that process has already begun. Already the tell-tale On-Land Bursts have begun in Texas and Louisiana, and it’s going to get much, much worse. When this storm is fully over land, all of these sources will be running, and massive flooding is guaranteed.


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Groundless of course. Hurricanes happen quite naturally. What they don't do is happen every year with the same intensity, or in the same place. There has not been a storm like this in this location since Hurricane Ike in 2008. Ike was a category 2, Harvey is forecast to possibly make landfall as a category 3.

The occasional and random nature of hurricanes has two effects. Firstly people forget, or new people move into the area, and so the lessons of the past are not applied, and people die. Worst case forecasts are valuable for when the worst case occurs, but since it does not always occur then people get the false idea that the dire forecasts are always wrong, this time it looks like they will be right.

But it also gives fuel for conspiracy theories about the path and intensity of the storm being engineered. We will see more of these over the next few days. But they are baseless. The reason why we know what the storm is doing is because we can model it. Long term models vary, but the storm is not doing anything unexplained. No "weather modification" explanation is called for here. It's just a major hurricane.
 
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Graham2001

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I cannot understand the mindset of people who come up with ideas like this, hurricanes are a natural phenomenon governed by processes that are generally well understood, they also follow broadly predictable paths. But there are always outliers. In 1867 for example the seventh recorded hurricane of the season arose in the Gulf of Mexico and traveled east along the United States southern coastline before dissipating somewhere in the Atlantic, in 1999 Hurricane Lenny was again an example of a hurricane with a West-to-East trajectory. Wikipedia has details and estimated storm tracks for both.

1867 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Hurricane Seven

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1867_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Hurricane_Seven

1999 Atlantic Hurricane Season: Hurricane Lenny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Lenny

Also possibly useful for this topic is another Wikipedia page, this one deals with Tropical Cyclones that have appeared in fiction, several of the plot descriptions mention their use in scenarios involving weather modification. A fairly typical example is the 1999 made-for-TV film 'Storm' which has a cabal in the US military trying to use a machine to manipulate the path and intensity of tropical storms. The film makers specifically link testing of the device to 1992s Hurricane Andrew, but there is also a novel from 2007 which has the US Government experimenting with weather manipulation using lasers as far back as 1971.

Wikipedia: Tropical Cyclones in Popular Culture


Although many forms of natural disaster appear in fiction and literature, tropical cyclones serve a number of useful literary functions because they are both extraordinarily powerful and, to those who have some experience with them, their occurrence can be portended several days in advance. The NOAA page notes that:

"There is undeniable drama to hurricanes; their massive scale affecting the lives of thousands, the foreshadowing of impending doom, and their ponderous pace as they approach the shore. This has made them ideal plot elements in many fictional works."

The strength of the tropical cyclone has made it a device by which authors explain the upending of characters' lives, and even transformations of the personalities of those who live through such an event. Their somewhat hazy predictability also makes them a useful MacGuffin, an impetus for characters to set to action. In some instances, the storm provides cover for characters to engage in covert behavior.
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The NOAA page referenced in the Wikipedia article is also well worth looking at, as I suspect that conspiracy theorists mine popular culture for ideas.
 

Graham2001

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I had planned to edit my last post to add this, but I must have missed the cut off period. Wikipedia has two maps of tropical cyclone paths, the first covers storms from 1985 - 2006 (Eg within the era of total satellite coverage.), the second takes in storms from prior to full satellite coverage being achieved (Around 1966) and runs 1945 - 2006, what both maps make clear is that Tropical storms (Cyclones, Hurricanes, Typhoons etc) as I mentioned in the last post follow broadly predictable paths and occur in specific regions, obvious outliers (Like Hurricane Catarina (Also known as Cyclone Catarina.) off Brazil and Hurricane Vince off Spain) tend to stand out, with the clustering of storm tracks being easy to see at the global level,

Tropical Cyclones 1985 - 2005

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg

Tropical Cyclones 1945 - 2006

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Tropical_cyclones_1945_2006_wikicolor.png

One other thing that will doubtless be bought up by conspiracy theorists talking about Hurricane Harvey is Project Stormfury (1962 - 1983), this was a US Government program to weaken hurricanes by seeding them with silver iodide, bedeviled practically from the get-go with claims that the 'true goal' was to 'weaponize hurricanes' the program was only finally cancelled when the accumulated data from hurricane research flights revealed that conditions inside hurricanes were not suitable for silver iodide cloud seeding and that changes observed after some Stormfury test flights in fact occurred naturally. Wikipedia's article is a good summary of the project, it's goals and the results.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
 
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Mick West

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As expected, Dane Wigington of Geoengineering Watch is claiming that the path of hurricane Harvey was manipulated, at 10:00 in this video.

9:57 be to all of us now that we have
9:59 hurricane Harvey wreaking havoc along
10:01 the Gulf Coast I want her backtrack to
10:03 how many programs have I brought up the
10:07 fact that we are in a 12 year major
10:09 hurricane drought starting to look
10:12 pretty bad for the United States when
10:14 the rest of the world other governments
10:15 around the globe know exactly what the
10:17 United States is doing that they were
10:19 blocking major impacts from the US well
10:21 not only allowing but perhaps fueling
10:23 major impacts in other countries
and for
10:25 those who think such mass scale
10:27 manipulation is not possible you have
10:29 not done your research the weather
10:31 system is much more malleable than most
10:33 people understand or realize and this is
10:37 documented with
10:38 historical precedent with weather
10:40 modification programs like project
10:42 Stormfury to manipulate cyclones and
10:46 when we have now after such a long
10:50 period when the power structure needs to
10:53 break that drought we have a minimal
10:57 category three hurricane coming ashore
10:59 and putting a halt to the increasingly
11:02 suspicious twelve year major hurricane
11:05 landfall drought
in the US what other
11:07 agendas are part of the ongoing right
11:10 now hurricane Harvey scenario the path
11:15 that the hurricane was projected to take
11:18 is truly astounding in fact by the
11:20 Weather Channel it was called
11:22 historically unprecedented astounding
11:24 miraculous they put a lot of adjectives
11:26 on that this is not a natural track and
11:30 when we have this just like we had with
11:32 hurricane sandy when they can't predict
11:34 often a few hours ahead of time just
11:36 like with hurricane sandy how did they
11:38 know seven days ahead of time that it
11:40 was going to take an unprecedented
11:41 westerly turn where it did say now that
11:45 they know that this hurricane is going
11:46 to go inland backtrack go right back
11:49 offshore hit another target further down
11:51 in Louisiana
it tracks across most of
11:54 the extremely warm Gulf of Mexico
11:57 without really strengthening until right
11:59 before landfall when it goes up to
12:01 category three breaks the twelve year
12:03 drought it's going to drop lots and lots
12:05 of rain yes it will have to see on the
12:07 damage I'm doing do two I'll do a full
12:09 summary next week when all the final
12:12 assessments are in but the bottom line
12:15 is this is nothing short of weather
12:17 warfare period and that doesn't mean
12:20 that without climate engineering we
12:22 wouldn't have cyclones of course we
12:24 would have cyclones in fact they'll be
12:25 worse than ever because the planet is
12:26 warming radically and rapidly but when
12:30 something is manipulated when a weather
12:32 event is manipulated in fact when the
12:34 entire global climate system is being
12:36 manipulated and decimated at the same
12:38 time how can we consider anything
12:40 natural at that point and when we know
12:42 that the weather makers have the power
12:45 to eliminate or suppress the hurricane
12:49 this is patented technology and they
12:52 at minimum allow it to spin up and hit
12:54 word did or decide where it hits who
12:57 gave the weather makers the right to
13:00 make such decisions?
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Dane paints a rather confusing picture of the reasons for wanting to steer Harvey. He first claims that all the other countries in the world know exactly what the US is doing, but that it's getting suspicious as there has been a "12 year drought" on major Hurricanes making landfall. So this was an event that's suspicious because it looks normal?

By 12 years he's probably referring to Katrina in 2005, causing $100 billion in damage. But it's not like there's been nothing since then. Hurricane Ike in 2008 caused $37.5B, Irene in 2011 cost $16B. And the other storm he mentioned, Sandy, cost $75 billion, in 2012. There have been others.
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And if you look back over the history of hurricanes this century, it's just normal variation.
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In fact, if anything the 2004/2005 spike was the anomaly - two very heavy back to back years like that has not happened in the historical record. The frequency since then has been pretty normal.

But how exactly did weather forecasters predict the path the hurricane would take so accurately? They just forecast the weather. They record data from weather stations and satellites, they plug it into computer models that have been refined over decades, and they see what the computer predicts. In this case the computer predicted that Harvey would stall over Houston after making landfall on August 25th.

Hurricanes move based on what the high level (25,000 to 50,000 ft) winds are doing. Hurricanes generally are born from the tropical trade winds moving west, and then move north and eventually are picked up by the westerlies heading east. In this case there was a bit of a dead zone, meaning Harvey has very little upper air wind operating on it.
https://earth.nullschool.net/#2017/...graphic=-108.71,28.46,1640/loc=-92.618,31.745
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Look at the big picture.
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Graham2001

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What you have just described is fairly typical for conspiracy theorists, they don't need a coherent argument, just one that throws doubt onto the 'official story'. Weather forecasters have been doing this for well over a century now, with success in some cases, failure in others.

The 1995 IMAX documentary "Stormchasers" has a sequence where they re-enact the weather forecasting of 1993s Hurricane Emily and it's a good demonstration of the process that forecasters go through (Things have not changed that much since the 1990s.)
 

MikeG

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how long before the first mention of HAARP?

Not that long at all as it turns out.

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As we can see in the 'anomaly' screenshot above and in the video below, this strange appearance of energy continuously flashes across his screen yet it was well ahead of the storm's landfall. The 'top rated' comment on the video:

"This is a HAARP injection. They have excited the upper atmosphere with energy and this is so when Hurricane Harvey shows up tomorrow or Saturday morning it will intensify instantly and become very deadly. HAARP is what the government uses to make man made weather. They used it with Katrina and Sandy..... We are being set up for a catastrophic weather event by our own government. I am glad you caught this....
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