Only here has it been debunked . Sheriff Joe says otherwise . Not that it matters. We are stuck with him to the end of his term . Unless he impeachedThe one thing that I can see fueling most theories is the fact that Fuddy is the only one who was killed out of 8 or so people involved in the crash (as far as we know). Granted that is a miracle that most of them survives as most plane crashes are simply not survivable.
IMO, the birther thing has been thoroughly debunked. I recall a guy on youtube who very thoroughly explains everything about the document though I can't recall the location of the video ATM.
It's been debunked by many others at many other places.Only here has it been debunked . Sheriff Joe says otherwise . Not that it matters. We are stuck with him to the end of his term . Unless he impeachedI can always hope .
until you get to the last one at 9:00 . He just says the layering is normal in PDF . Another fraud trying to sell a book . Actually the African thing is about the strangest thing on the whole thing .It's been debunked by many others at many other places.
The whole series is kinda long. But he explains everything regarding the birth certificate.
Granted that is a miracle that most of them survives as most plane crashes are simply not survivable.
until you get to the last one at 9:00 . He just says the layering is normal in PDF . Another fraud trying to sell a book . Actually the African thing is about the strangest thing on the whole thing .
Can I say here that, particularly in a land built by immigration, I cannot really understand the "you gotta be born here", requirement?
Seems pretty discriminatory if nothing else. Surely citizenship and commitment to the country should be the requirements?
The thing is that it's not even that cut and dry. Most constitutional scholars agree that Ted Cruz likely qualifies as a natural born citizen despite being born in Canada to an American mother. Granted, is not set in stone and some vetting would be required which I assume will be done if he decides to run.
In which case it will be interesting to see the hypocrisy that will surely surface from the tea party/birthed crowd..
But that was on a U.S. military base which is considered U.S. territory.John McCain was born in Panama.
But that was on a U.S. military base which is considered U.S. territory.
Janet you seem to have to much faith in government it and clouds you thinking . I just thought the term which was used in the sixties would have been on the BC ? have never seen anyone produce a BC with African other then that one . No I dont by the kenya was not a country crap either . Either way were stuck with the moron for a few more years guess we will see if we elect another smuck for the Whitehouse ? IMO of course . Look up the approval rating for congress the president youll see you are in the minority .Layering is normal in a pdf. I'm sure I've even said here that I used to be an illustrator, and frequently my clients would scan in a chart or graph for me to draw for a book. Frequently the graph would be in black and white, with the graph LINE being a different color. The line would be on a different layer. Sometimes some of the type itself would be on a different layer, if a black and white image was scanned into a color copier.
JFDee hit the nail on the head in this post to you: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/contrail-question-for-skeptics.2783/page-5#post-79831
As for the "African" thing, what is so unusual?
Your distrust of the government colors ever opinion you post and you reinforce it with your selection of reading/viewing material.
So we dont get a manchurian candidate . Someone with no allegiance to our country like some anti colonialist with a big fat chip on his shoulder . Seems to make sense to me ?Can I say here that, particularly in a land built by immigration, I cannot really understand the "you gotta be born here", requirement?
Seems pretty discriminatory if nothing else. Surely citizenship and commitment to the country should be the requirements?
No problem ! Its makes no difference whether or not he was born here . To me he sucks . my opinion of course . It will be funny when Cruz runs and the Libs do he same . I cant understand why anyone has faith in our government . You guys are in the minority there .Joe. The same could be said about you and your distrust in government. And don't take offence to what I'm about to say, but it almost seems that all someone has to do is suggest something negative about Obama or the government in general, and you'll believe it or at least take the claim as credible despite there not being any evidence to support it. Furthermore it seems that you'll cling to that notion regardless of how much evidence has been presented to debunk it.
It's just an observation, and I mean no harm by expressing it. I admit to once having similar sentiments about the world in general.
So we dont get a manchurian candidate . Someone with no allegiance to our country like some anti colonialist with a big fat chip on his shoulder . Seems to make sense to me ?
Well I wont disagree wtih you at all . Its not like we get the cream of the crop with those born here as well . If we quit elected lawyers that would help .But sociopaths who sound convincing but are only out to further their own egos are OK?
Fairly weak reason there Joe. Being born somewhere doesn't necessarily make you more committed to a country than someone who wasn't. Immigrants, in my experience anyway, tend to appreciate their adopted country in ways others don't.
From what I have seen of the US political process, especially the presidential race, people get found out pretty quickly if they have something undesirable to hide.
The list of great Americans who don't qualify for the highest office by an arbitrary rule would be very thought provoking.
You cant compare the Truthers and the Birthers . With the birthers its just wishful thinking that everything that has been signed into law would be null and void if he was found to be a fraud .I don't have faith in the government. Faith implies belief without evidence. I know that our government isn't always benevolent. I just think that if we're going to criticize as a means produce effective change; we need to focus on what is proven like the massive over reach of the NSA. Unfortunately it seems that the 9/11 truth movement along with the birthers, and many others seem to exist in larger numbers than any NSA protesting movement that I've seen. And that's pretty disappointing.
I would agree with the latter part of that. But I wasnt comparing anything. I was just citing examples of various movements.You cant compare the Truthers and the Birthers . With the birthers its just wishful thinking that everything that has been signed into law would be null and void if he was found to be a fraud .
Janet you seem to have to much faith in government it and clouds you thinking . I just thought the term which was used in the sixties would have been on the BC ? have never seen anyone produce a BC with African other then that one . No I dont by the kenya was not a country crap either . Either way were stuck with the moron for a few more years guess we will see if we elect another smuck for the Whitehouse ? IMO of course . Look up the approval rating for congress the president youll see you are in the minority .
No problem ! Its makes no difference whether or not he was born here . To me he sucks . my opinion of course . It will be funny when Cruz runs and the Libs do he same . I cant understand why anyone has faith in our government . You guys are in the minority there .
the election of SwhIt is not strange in the context of which it was written. It is an anachronism though. Californians elected Schwarzenegger without much of a problem.
This guy makes some excellent points.
I know nothing about PDF layers I just said at the end of the guys video he says its totally normal for them to be that way . whether or not the original was altered he wouldnt say . Then other experts on the other side say the opposite . So those on the left will belive what they want and those on the right who are going to get hammered by OBAMACARE could only wish the birthers are right . No either way we all get stuck . You just think your guys different but he seems to just be a continuation of the last guy .How many birth certificates from Hawaii have you seen where one of the parents were from Africa?
You're stuck with someone you don't like in the white house for a few more years. Right. Get over it. Then you'll either be stuck again, or someone else will be. You can't make everyone happy.
By the way, you didn't acknowledge being wrong about the pdf layers.![]()
the election of Swh
I know nothing about PDF layers I just said at the end of the guys video he says its totally normal for them to be that way . whether or not the original was altered he wouldnt say . Then other experts on the other side say the opposite . So those on the left will belive what they want and those on the right who are going to get hammered by OBAMACARE could only wish the birthers are right . No either way we all get stuck . You just think your guys different but he seems to just be a continuation of the last guy .
Well those in the birther community says he is not eligible . So that leads me to believe they are not as partisan as we think . It was Hillary that stated the birther movement against Obama .Since many many many conservatives claimed BOTH parents had to be citizens in order for the child to be, and that Obama did NOT qualify because his father wasn't---I'll be more interested in seeing what the conservatives say if Cruz is nominated. Or their REACTION if the liberals bring up the same argument.![]()
Well those in the birther community says he is not eligible . So that leads me to believe they are not as partisan as we think . It was Hillary that stated the birther movement against Obama .
So we dont get a manchurian candidate . Someone with no allegiance to our country like some anti colonialist with a big fat chip on his shoulder . Seems to make sense to me ?